Liadon Xiloscient Posted August 3, 2011 Report Share Posted August 3, 2011 If a character where to give respects to all Gods equally which faith would they choose? Agnostic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mali Posted August 3, 2011 Report Share Posted August 3, 2011 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jibber Posted August 3, 2011 Report Share Posted August 3, 2011 Uh, I have respect on all of my characters to every single god. I don't care if they're evil, good, mean as hell, whatever. If you disrespect a god expect to get your *** punished, in game, and probably OOC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandbox Posted August 3, 2011 Report Share Posted August 3, 2011 i'm athiest and i respect all religions irl.. dont really believe in a god, but i don't favor one persons religion over another and i dont look down on those that do belive in it... suppose this logic could work for any non chaotic, non zealot type. The problem with applying this to real world religions is most of them were tailored to make you shun all other religions. The churches spent a lot of time and money back in the day on stuff like this. The most immediate example being the catholic church shaping the devils nose long and pointy to resemble a jewish nose. They all did it... so its natural to think just because i'm one religion i have to hate all others, its burned into a lot of people. you can be combat religoin and respect the more magical religoins... just dont expect that logic to work in the more zealot minded cultures like warmaster, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erana Posted August 3, 2011 Report Share Posted August 3, 2011 Equally respect = church Equally disrespect = atheist Equally neutral = agnostic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mali Posted August 3, 2011 Report Share Posted August 3, 2011 Equally respect = church Equally disrespect = atheist Equally neutral = agnostic This is incorrect. Church religion is the 'one god'. If you believe in one god, then you do not believe in more than one god. Therefore, one god is held above other gods (or idols, as the character may have it) and all other gods are disrespected by way of the characters disbelief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imoutgoodbye Posted August 3, 2011 Report Share Posted August 3, 2011 What? I'm taking a break, so everyone gets memory loss? Church. This religion or the "One Religion" as I like to call it, was created to cover any religious/belief RP not covered by specific religions available in FL. Implemented roughly 5-6 years go. I believe a polytheist in this case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimulfr Posted August 3, 2011 Report Share Posted August 3, 2011 This is incorrect. Church religion is the 'one god'. If you believe in one god' date=' then you do not believe in more than one god. Therefore, one god is held above other gods (or idols, as the character may have it) and all other gods are disrespected by way of the characters disbelief.[/quote'] There is a problem with not believing in any more than one God in FL, because there are numerous visible Gods that actually do exist. Church worshippers are free to worship one supreme God over all the others, much as anyone who chooses a specific religion reveres their particular God the most, but it doesn't mean they do not respect the others. They can refuse to acknowledge other Gods if that's their RP, but it is by no means prescribed by worshipping the One God that you are a disbeliever in any other deities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-3000 Posted August 3, 2011 Report Share Posted August 3, 2011 As to the realm of Aabahran, there is constant battle between the immortals over the worshippers. Thus, a person to worship them ALL, is utter rarity, as there is constantly someone or something, including the gods themselves (of course), trying to lure the believer to cherish one of the gods more than others of them. Also, as a background info related to the church for someone who's wondering if "the One" is just a game mechanic, or "a real being" inside FL story: "the One" exists. There has been stories about "angels of the One" (IMM controlled event, scale unknown to me, yet I'm assuming "imm + target character"). I was about to write this below as an opinion, but after reading Grimulfr's reply and help-files, I agree with Grimulfr, thus this can be considered as merely a guideline when RPing a narrow-minded person: A believer of the One knows only one god. He acknowledges that there is other religions which have very powerful beings as a deities (whose he does not consider as gods), and per personality reacts to the other religions (despice/neutral/respect). Even if he disrespects the other religions, he understands such a fact, that showing a direct disrespect to something that can kill you with a gaze, has consequences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mali Posted August 3, 2011 Report Share Posted August 3, 2011 I think as a group we are confusing the terms 'god' and 'immortal'. FL has multiple immortals such as demons, nature gods, heroes, angels, etc. However, time has shown that not all immortals are even immortal, as evidenced by zhokril's slaying of lytholm and the constant struggles in the nexus resulting in new demon immortals. These beings are not 'gods' in the sense of omnipotence, but are rather flawed super-beings that have worshipers among the commonwealth. They rise and they fall, if on a somewhat larger scale than others. That being said, and as per the help file, one who worships 'The One' (operative words 'the' and 'one'), would by very nature of worshiping the one as a god not worship the others as god. Part of worship is acknowledgement. Therefore, a follower of church may recognize immortals as super-beings and by doing so not flirt with death, but they shouldn't acknowledge them as gods, since they only acknowledge one god, even going so far as to slay the followers of other gods and or/desecrate temples and idols. This does -not- imply mutual respect for all immortals, but quite the contrary sets the invisible 'one god' above all others. Now I suggest to the current staff to go read the helpfiles like f-3000 here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imoutgoodbye Posted August 3, 2011 Report Share Posted August 3, 2011 Mali, I suggest you go got slayed. We here at the Forsaken Lands do not suffer cotton candy eaters. You have obviously been eating one of Amy Winehouse's wigs. Too soon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pali Posted August 3, 2011 Report Share Posted August 3, 2011 That being said' date=' and as per the help file, one who worships 'The One' (operative words 'the' and 'one'), would by very nature of worshiping the one as a god not worship the others as god. Part of worship is acknowledgement. Therefore, a follower of church may recognize immortals as super-beings and by doing so not flirt with death, but they shouldn't acknowledge them as gods, since they only acknowledge one god, even going so far as to slay the followers of other gods and or/desecrate temples and idols.[/quote'] Not necessarily. There have been plenty of polytheistic societies that have favored deities or a single supreme deity while still believing in the existence of other gods... ancient Greeks, depending on their city-state, tended to specifically worship or venerate one or two gods, but they'd still pay tribute to other gods when it was appropriate (you may be an Athenian, but you'd still sacrifice a bull to Poseidon before a sea voyage), and some viewed Zeus as a sort of overlord of the other gods. Some Hindu sects similarly view Brahman as a supreme being while maintaining beliefs in the existence of a broader pantheon. Acknowledgment may be part of worship, but it's not all of it. Saying "you are a god" is not saying "you are my god". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mali Posted August 3, 2011 Report Share Posted August 3, 2011 Hey everyone, meet Pali the unitarian universalist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liadon Xiloscient Posted August 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2011 Here stands a shrouded character, one of Liadon's creations to one day be set into the world of Aabahran. Listening in on the debates she calmly rubs her temple with a dry glare spread across her brow. Slowly she takes in a breath raising a fist to lips and breaks the tension by clearing her throat. Opening her eyes to look at the entire group she smiles sweetly and nods respectfully, "That's not entirely what I meant..." waving her hand dismissively the character continues, "I worship every God... well..." she stops to ponder what to say next before finishing, "Immortal as some of you have called them." Glancing for a moment over the group she slowly begins to pace about the group looking each person in the eyes while explaining herself, "Every Immortal God..." She pauses to chuckle at her own wit, "Respectfully rules over their own domain or domains." She pauses before Valek and gives him a gentle nod before continuing her pace through the small group. "In any given scenario I request the aid of different Immortal Gods." She pauses and gestures outward with her hands, "For example." She pauses with her back to the group then turns and continues, "If I'm gambling I pray to Brehan for guiding my dice. If I get the overwhelming urge to kill someone, I pray to both Volgathras and Anume for their quick death, and easy passage into the afterlife." She chuckles and pulls out a 20 sided dice and begins rolling it in the palm of her hand, "On the rare chance I feel charitable Ordiran(SP?) gives me the strength needed to do so." Dropping the dice she looks down and watches it clatter about upon the hard floor. It lands on a three and she simply mutters something quietly to herself before looking up and continuing, "Even more rare do I forgive others if they have done me wrong. In that scenario I pray to Koevhar." The character nods gently and smiles sweetly, "I give respect to all Immortal Gods but I have yet to make it a habit to visit their churches regularly." She turns away from the group and gives a lazy wave as she slowly disappears, "Thanks for all the help boys. I hope to see all of you very soon within our Aabahran." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mali Posted August 3, 2011 Report Share Posted August 3, 2011 Chaotic neutral, religion chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liadon Xiloscient Posted August 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2011 Why chance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pali Posted August 3, 2011 Report Share Posted August 3, 2011 Hey everyone' date=' meet Pali the unitarian universalist [/quote'] I wasn't aware that being religiously literate made one a UU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinblades713 Posted August 4, 2011 Report Share Posted August 4, 2011 Praying to Anume or Volgathras would get your enemies nowhere near a quick death. >: D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandbox Posted August 4, 2011 Report Share Posted August 4, 2011 Praying to Anume or Volgathras would get your enemies nowhere near a quick death. >: D might get yourself killed faster... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liadon Xiloscient Posted August 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2011 Rubbish, not if it was from behind. Heh, fighting dirty is always fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erana Posted August 4, 2011 Report Share Posted August 4, 2011 The one god is a catch-all religion for anything that is not part of another deity's doctrine. This could be something like voodoo or animism up to worshiping some ambiguous all-powerful monotheistic god existing only on the basis of faith (crusaders). The one god has no presence in game for that reason. Deities = Gods = Immortals Not in the sense of the RL christian/whatever monotheistic omnipotent, supreme god, but more like the greco-roman ones, fallible and changing. Immortal in that they do not die from natural causes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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