electroglyph Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 How can I tell if a hide or sneak is successful? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filth Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 The only way you can tell without breaking sneak or hide is whether or not a blood thirsty enemy is bashing you after you tried to hide. I should also point out that at 100% the odds of actually failing are incredibly low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electroglyph Posted February 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 It seems like it would be low as the success rate at 75 is pretty good. However, isn't a bit silly that we don't get a success message? I'm a master of the night, skilled thief and mugger. I'm not entirely sure whether or not I'm hidden but some jerkoff paladin sure knows! Even if it only showed a success message for 95% and up (or mastered) that would be cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filth Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 Well, I don't think so. Think of back when you've ever played hide-and-go-seek. You dash for a hiding spot, hide, and think you are hidden. But in reality the only moment you are able to tell whether or not you are hidden is when you see the seeker, and he can or cannot see you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electroglyph Posted February 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 It's a point we could argue forever. I just think it makes sense for a thief or ninja, classes nearly defined by the hide skill, to have enough expertise to know when they're hidden....at least at higher skill levels. I can also imagine a thief thinking they're hidden, with barely a piece of their cloak sticking out of the shadows and giving their location away. If the failure rate is that low I guess it doesn't matter anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jibber Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 I think this stops the whole 'flee;hide' thing that every single ninja/thief does, forcing them to run a few rooms, and THEN hide. I don't think the traditional 'flee;hide' should be a way out of any situation. And, Filth's explanation backs it up quite nicely. PS: Can't tell you how many people I killed that thought they successfully fled and hid immediately, only to be one room away out in the open, and hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enethier Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 That's why I never do the caves of kamir quest. the trainers cant see hidden, so if you are hidden, they will say "someone". Honestly, though, it's a non-issue. spam train hide and sneak to 100 and you won't have to worry about it, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deykari Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 I think it's fair to say that if you were to hide, as an expert you will have at best, a very good idea as to whether you've a good hiding place or not and this is reflected in the very high success rate when it's mastered. No matter how good you are at hiding though, what if I just so happen to look where you are hiding? As a hider, there is no way you can just -know- with 100% certainty nobody will ever find you - it's not in your control, but the control of the person who may stumble upon you. Hence why there's no message to the hider. At 100%, hide is very, very reliable anyway. Dey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f0xx Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 Hide/camo doesn't fail if it is mastered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyzarius Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 if you remove or adjust flee/hide to be less effective then you just end up with a bunch of bash locked thieves/ninjas, which is lame imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_nightmare Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 Hide/camo doesn't fail if it is mastered. Camoflauge have a very minor chance to fail if you play giant race ranger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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