The Greased Weasel Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 Ive only played Av's back in 1.0 and I fully understand why theyre considered to be the most powerful of the Q's, vamps, psis, saders and all that can be killed by normal class/race combos now I take my normal class race combo that I'm already good enough to kill vamps and such with and now add all those unholy...er holy avatar abilities on top of my repetoire. Thusly you get badass in can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teralis Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 I dont know Ill just have to hope I am approved for mine to actually be able to have a better arguement in this I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deravgner Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 ohh hell yea, certain class avatars will rock any other qclass/qrace hardcore. the Fact that they can't be elder/leader does bother me to an extent, the added powers would be a bit much, but the RP would dullen after you hit T and know you can't go any further. But for the argument that a E/L Vampire is better than a T Avatar Id rather take a T Avatar Warrior/Cleric to fight the L Vamp instead of being the Vamp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycho Child Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 Avatar monks are scary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudder Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 Keioln I made to go Avatar... Then Sirant went evil and ruined it all! Though after I RP comitted suicide (I actually RP'ed it, Morathi(sp?) talked me into it) I asked Sirant to deny me and asked "Would I have made avatar if you didn't go evil?" he said, "Yes" So.. Bah! Sirant, you stink! hehe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiegel06 Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 well against a vamp, imagine a avatar BLM specialized in Unique. I have not played an avatar but I know they are the bane of undead, demons, vamps, and liches now. Is that allowed? Since I dont think undead can be BLM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zrothum Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 Avatars are not the bane of undead, demons, vamps, and lichs...well, not in a PK skill type sense....only in an RP sense. Watchers would be the bane of undead, demons, vamps, lichs in a PK sense and RP sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Totenkopf- Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 No need for avatars to even be cabaled. I was required to leave Knight to be avatared on Sslandith, and he kicked some serious arse. Allowed me more freedom. Which isn't a bad thing, as there freedom is somewhat limited in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zrothum Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 Yea, slith warriors would be another one of those cap at I things. Well...maybe not today's sliths. But yea...warrior avatars are good fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kahlos Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 Wasn't Elloran an elder avatar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pali Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 Holy thread resurrection Batman! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kahlos Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 lol yeah.. Im currently in the process of reading every thread in the general topics forum. Page 41 now going towards the newer posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bl3h Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 Someone needs a girl friend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kahlos Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 Im married. And I only do it at work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raargant Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 Wasn't Elloran an elder avatar? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mya Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 Do Avatars get to throw Uspeakables every round ? Because i cannot see how an Avatar can be more powerfull than a vampire... Vampires are so hardcoded bonused that it is amazing to defeat one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evangelion Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 Uh, the code that you may have been reading is now extremely out of date. We are currently on something like Vampires Version 4.0, and having played a Vampire Version 3.0 and a Version 4.0, I would say that there have been drastic power cuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mmm Coffee Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 Do Avatars get to throw Uspeakables every round ? Because i cannot see how an Avatar can be more powerfull than a vampire... Vampires are so hardcoded bonused that it is amazing to defeat one. WTH? If vamps could dish out unspeakables every round, vamp fights would only last 2-3 rounds They may be buff, but they're not THAT buff. Unless you were caught unsanc'd and unprotected as an ogre, that just shouldn't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pali Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 An avatar of the right race/class combo and at full strength is the strongest quest race in the game (discounting liches... I'm not sure where they fit in. I've yet to be or fight one). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evangelion Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 WTH? If vamps could dish out unspeakables every round' date=' vamp fights would only last 2-3 rounds They may be buff, but they're not THAT buff. Unless you were caught unsanc'd and unprotected as an ogre, that just shouldn't happen.[/quote'] Not even an ogre. And all of the classes that an ogre can be will rape a vamp that tries to go for pure damage like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raargant Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 An avatar of the right race/class combo and at full strength is the strongest quest race in the game (discounting liches... I'm not sure where they fit in. I've yet to be or fight one). Concur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pali Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 Ah, but do you concur on the discounting liches qualifier? ^_~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zrothum Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 avatar ogre warrior fully buff'd would just be nasty. Especially a Knight. Raargrant....come behind this curtain.....I have something for you..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mya Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 "And all of the classes that an ogre can be will rape a vamp that tries to go for pure damage like that." So what should the vamp do ? Go for saves, HP ? It think you afirmation if flawed. Dont say AC or i will say enlarge,haste. Anyway, Vamps have ubervamp skill that i hate. After uber vamp skill is on, its Xmas. And Messa had Uber Cabal skill that worked when ubervamp skill did not. It's quite frustrating. And the there is that bloody weapon only an undead would use.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HBwillie Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 give me a decked, fully trained ogre warrior/ranger/zerker against a decked, fully trained vamp anyday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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