Despiser Posted April 23, 2006 Report Share Posted April 23, 2006 Martineius is deleted. I'm walking away from playing FL. And, quite frankly, I'm not walking back. Across the nearly thousand or so hours I have played on Martineius, I have encountered, quite frankly, the most vitriol and spew I have ever encountered in five years in FL; but conversely, I've also had some of the most fun I've had in FL in years. It's quite sad, considering almost all of the vitriol is and has come from those considered 'vets' here on the forum, and all of them, invariably, after they got their asses beat in one way or another, in some shape or forum. I think it to be a very telling sign that the type of person leading the anti-Martineius chants is Zrothum/Dharg, who, as far as I know, is THE biggest cheater in FL history, having been banned more times than half the current pbase combined. And no, this isn't a flame. Ask any IMM whatsoever. Not a single one can or will deny it. I've been told, in game, by caballed members, that my character was 'tweaked' and 'twinked' by the IMM's (exact wording used). The word 'overpowered', in game, I have heard used directed towards me more than ten times. I've been cussed at, insulted, and believe me, I'm not referring to 'friendly' IC insults, but the one you would punch someone for saying to you IRL. And oh, yes. I've also been gangbanged repeatedly (never saying a thing anywhere), and have heard from at least three separate sources of people trying to organize gangbangs against me. OOC. These are the type of 'elites', the type of 'vets', who have been continually spewing vitriol. And it's very sad. Martineius, quite frankly, in five years at FL, is the ONE character I've ever played whom, if you don't bother him, wouldn't bother you. Why did I make Martineius? Because I saw that Tribunal, as a cabal, needed some help. Because I thought the RP of an intra- Undead split/war would be interesting and fun. Because I wanted to make a character that could help newbies. Because I wanted to try a 'Raistlin' sort of RP; an evil person who, despite being most assuredly evil, isn't necessary a killer, insane, or evil 'to the core'. Fundamentally, a character just to be FUN, with. Not just for myself. For those who interacted and who talked with him. Evidently, though, despite not knowing Tribunal powers, I made an 'overpowered combo', to play and take the game 'hardball to an extreme', not to mention 'get my rocks off' cheating in PK. Because that's the sort of cheating, scheming, power gamer I am. Right. Have I made some mistakes? Sure have. But I simply think that it is laughable that my reputation as a player and a character is assailed for...what? A maybe, maybe not bug that I had 'exploited' accidentally, twice, across nearly a thousand hours of play? Right. I posted earlier, and I stand by it now; that quite frankly, people who are angry with the character-Who have gotten their butts kicked over, possibly, multiple characters whom they rolled up and created JUST to fight me, and lost-seize and bandwagon on any little mistake to try and scream, "This char is trash! This player is crap! He's a cheater! A cheater!" Right. Tell anyone who's interacted with me, legitimately, that me or my character is trash, or a cheater. Like I said, I find it very interesting that the person spearheading these cheater chants, is literally the biggest cheater of them all. Oh, and who happened to call me, amongst other things, on a previous forum, a "chink dickhead". A grudge against me which he held, amongst other reasons, for me refusing to help him edit an essay he was writing explaining how very bad he felt about a charge of sexual harassment/assault on some chick some time ago. True story. Starting to get an idea of exactly why some people are being so 'upright' and 'righteous' over this? OOC and personal grudges. Very sad, that a few people can and will swap stories OOC, over AIM, getting very little correct, but believing it, whereas we who obey the rules, try to avoid OOC contact, are the ones vilified precisely because the only way we can get our side of the story out, is by becoming like them. But I don't want to end on an unhappy note. Despite all of the definite crap which I have taken, on AIM, on the forum, and yes, IG, I have definitely had some incredible experiences in this game, on Martineius; if I didn't, I wouldn't have pulled almost a thousand hours on the char. There are too many people to say goodbye to, from Savina to Pominsu to Meridia, and more. So I will simply say, to all of you, 'Good bye'. And, gentlemen, on the flip side, smile! There's a good 15'ish rares in circulation again My only true regret, in deleting, is that Martineius won't be there, as I oh-so planned to be, when and if Sachi Oda returned. Despiser out, this time for good. Peace to the many, the majority, in fact, I firmly believe, of silent players, who don't cheat, who don't OOC, and who don't try to tear other players down, and other players characters down, based on an OOC webring of lies, deceit, and personal grudges. I'm actually tearing a bit, so I better end it here. Peace, guys. I love a lot of you guys so much. Peace. Despiser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatMike Posted April 23, 2006 Report Share Posted April 23, 2006 Love ya bro, hate to see it end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zrothum Posted April 23, 2006 Report Share Posted April 23, 2006 I'd defend myself here, but it's neither the time nor the place. Good luck in whatever path you find yourself on, Despiser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiere Posted April 23, 2006 Report Share Posted April 23, 2006 Sad to see you go, man. Good luck in life. I think there were more people for you, then against. And I'm impressed that Zrothum didn't turn this into a flame fest, myself. Way impressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorCleric Posted April 23, 2006 Report Share Posted April 23, 2006 Hey man, you've got fans where it counts. And I'm a firm believer that if you've pissed this many people off you did it right. If this is the end of your time here, then it's certainly the way anyone would want to go out, with one hell of a monster tearing **** up in game. Have a good one, man. WC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zrothum Posted April 23, 2006 Report Share Posted April 23, 2006 Whatever happened between myself and Despiser so many many many moons ago and now recently, it was not my intention for him to leave. I could write a book in the stupid crap I've done here, but meh...anyway. Sorry to see you go, Despiser. And I do apologize for that incident, almost two years ago on the unofficial forum. Sorry you think it was because you wouldn't look at the paper, but it was about the political debate that was going on at that time. I haven't talked to you in a long time since all that. In any case...like I said man, despite out differences, it was not my intention for you to leave. I guess a man is made by his choices in life. Good luck. (and for the record, I am not a child molestor. I flashed my package on the schoolbus when I was 15 and had charges pressed against me, albeit, DQing me for military service) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WagesofSin Posted April 23, 2006 Report Share Posted April 23, 2006 Damn, a shame. A total god damn shame... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warpnow Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 My only complaint against your playing of Marti was the intentional use of lightwalker tribs gainst lightwalker criminals. It was used against me and, on an alternate character, admitted to be intentional. All in all, a good char. I still think A tribunal Vampire is overpowered, but it was never meant as a personal attack. ~Telden Tairii Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deravgner Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 heh, damn bro, you are one of the few that I actually enjoy pking against even though I do feel like throwing my computer against the wall at times after being beaten. fun times we go way back. I even remember your first DK Daemopshine *spelling*. hehe that was YEARS ago damn we're gettin old. I quit a little over a month ago and prolly won't be back either just gettin to old for it I guess 21, women, partying all outweigh FL now by a large margin. Don't worry though bud, ill walk you through this.... You are going to feel strong denial for the next week, regret deleting, want to cut off your hands and eat them. Week after you will pull up the FL screen and stare at the login screen for a bit. Another week passes you look back and laugh at 'in reality' how funny all this is when it boils down to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boy Kid Wonder Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 You'll be missed as an elite player. We all have bad moments and we all get angry, by the name calling I just read made my stomach churn. Whoever the hell said that crap deserves more than just banning. You taught me so much over AIM, some things I will never forget, thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Greased Weasel Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 My hat is off to you sir, you had a hell of a run at things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-3000 Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 Hmmh... Who'll now keep kicking Messa? Good RP, must say. A bit confusing sometimes, but still. Sadly, might be the only vampire I'll ever like. Good luck, and don't turn back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirax Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 Great great character, had such an influence on FL the most i think a player has ever had. As for all the overpowered moans and whines im sure if you had gone Nexus things would have just been sick and the whining would have been ten fold what it is now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teralis Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 Sorry to see you go over these events I actually hated to like Marty, I interacted with you with Kharisa and had some good rp moments/discussions with her, and I truely enjoyed fighting you with Iozui took me a bit of you telling me what I was doing wrong but still had a few good fights, was my first druid and you helped alot. I never really had any complaints about you aside one question I had asked the imms about and was answered. Other then that I loved your rp, and you hunt like a madman. Damn this really sucks your leaving over this bs, our last battle this bug happened as well and it didnt even bother me, cant tell a tribunal not to hunt criminals just because something could or couldnt happen. Oh well have fun man and who knows poke around later some of those individuals you mentioned if they are really cheaters they dont belong here and maybe they will be cracked down on and be gone. Later. Someone yells 'Iozui is a criminal! Justice shall prevail!' Someone's slash decimates you! You have been KILLED by a Bounty Hunter! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mya Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 I am truly sorry to see you go. Especialy with a Delete thing. Also if someone breaks Character and insults you, you should report it to the immortals. That is the kind of thing that spoils the game for all of us. Personaly i think the idead of a Cabal with Healers/Paladins and Vampires should never exist, unless they can murder themselves continualy. As it breaks the godies RP. The Good on Good PK from tibunal is another thing, but all of this is not your fault but a choice made by the Immortals. And your character was overpowered, not because of any special treatment but because he is a Vampire and Vampires are HARD coded to be amazing. Also i personaly think that your character was not evil but neutral lawfull, and that it should had been outcasted because of forsaking your god. And i do not say this on a Power level but just on a RP level. On a Power level it would be awfull and mostly chalanging to have sutch a character. And again it is a pitty that you have deleted, because you realy achived mutch. With you guarding the city one could actualy be safe inside it. And the way you convinced people of your non agressiveness was amazing, literaly. I mean you actualy dismotivated most of my character to assault you just by talking. Good luck in life. PS: how did you not get bored with all that staying inside the pit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zrothum Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 self editted....im sure other people will get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warpnow Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 Oh, yea, he definitely should have been outcast. I recall him calling chayesh a "fool" on several counts and saying hat he claimed to be death but was just "fooling" himself. And I agree with Mya, its hard to rp a goodie well when the supposed evil isn't actually evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lemming Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 I am very sorry to see this. You ruled with an Iron fist and I loved it. I definatly agree with WC, to stir up that many people is quite the accomplishment. Best of luck to you in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Questioner Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 *sniff* Well I guess this is good bye to Marty and despiser all in one package. Had a lot of interaction with you with my first pinned, and still pinned, character ever (In any mud whatsoever). I really will miss you and all the help you gave me and fun times you created. See yah dude on the brighter side! [Don't flame.] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nympha Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 Where to begin. I loved the interaction I had with you on both of my characters, and though I have been removed so I can not play, I honestly feel I wont be back. I dont miss it anymore. You helped me learn to pk, albeit slightly, you helped show me that there are no limits or boundries to RP. Rp is all in the imagination. I am honestly sorry for all the crud you got either IC or OOC, I felt bad each time I read something about or flaming you. (Even though I didnt know it was you) You still have to keep in touch and come visit me though or I'll find you and kick your a$$! Much loves, Angel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rairen Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 Glad you're working your way out into the light. Now, go have some fun. Get a freakin' girlfriend. And, for what it counts, you're still the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fīv Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 Wo-ow. That pretty much sums it up. I've known you since I started back in 2.0 and watched all your chars turn out to be kick *** success's(sp). I can say without a doubt, in my opinion, you are the foundation of FL that outlasted Viri and Crypt. The rock, the heart, the ideal player. FL was as much yours as any of the IMP's and in a way, it is almost as if you are giving up your baby just as Viri did when he pursued EA. Awesome, awesome job with Martin. He was played as well as he could be in my eyes. Perfect everything, and FL really needed to see a char such as him. He was amazing, just like many of your other projects. Good luck at UC bro. Study hard, do good, and excel just as you have here. If you put half the amount of energy you graciously gave this game.. you can do anything. Peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icor Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 I agree whole-heartedly. Pure trash brews from overzealous players caught in some desire for revenge, plotting and scheming through out of character AIM rings. While playing Ceqia, I saw how many players there were rolling up rangers and Watchers and ninjas and Syndicate members with the soul desire to assassinate, wage war with, and flat out kill (without ANY real thought or concern to RP, that being character design or development) Tribunals. I shared some, though not nearly as much persecution as Martineius, and only toward the end, some people came out of the wood works and finally began to accept and work with the role play that he had established. Every time Martineius would log on, every outlaw (save but a select tad) would bash ‘quit’ into their client. It was nothing greater than heart-wrenchingly, to-the-brink-of-crying lame. Didn’t anyone feel guilty designing characters after plotting on AIM to eliminate Martineius? I can’t help but smile at the fact that Martineius took a handful of egos and crushed them like stale Oreos. The best part was that despite all that silliness (what with the OOC rings), Martineius still demolished everyone. And when all those players that got their hopes up got their asses handed to them on a golden platter, they couldn’t help but whine. I am almost ready to quit myself, as Despiser was one of the few people left that displayed the maturity levels required to create a truly fun gaming environment. I knew this would happen eventually, as the out of character bias and bitchiness witnessed and endured in game played a large part of my own Tribunal’s deletion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.Twendrist Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 Man, I thought marty was great from when I men him with Jhorik for the first time when mirvuhor was recaptured. Had a lot of cool talks with Korock, and Legaro (I attacked your policies and wrote some notes and attacked you a lot and stuff for interaction, not cause I hated your char). I was hoping to even interact some more with my current char. Oh well, good luck in life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 I saw this thread, and said, aloud, "No." I started reading the post, and said it some more. Then, I didn't stop saying it until I'd reached the end. The best character I've interacted with. Minimal interaction I'll admit, but excellent. I found your IC logic flawless, and until today I thought your OOC patience boundless. Turns out it wasn't, but it was still much, much farther-reaching than almost any of the rest of us can say. Goodbye, and good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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