Boooooot Camp

[Imoutgoodbye]

You guys have no sense of humor.

[Akoz]

No room for Humor in the Military!

[tassinvegeta]

i'm currently airforce' date=' been in for 7 years this enlistment was my "2nd chance" for the military, i think i've given up on it. I miss having the ability to get a new job when i had a jerk for a boss. In the military you just have to deal with it until they pcs. Unfortunately most of the idiots who cant get jobs on the outside are the ones who end up in charge.[/quote']

This is the reason I could not stay in any longer.

However some of the other posts may not be entirely true for everyone or every situation. A collateral duty which I never wanted but was forced into nearly got me the civilian equivalent job making around $40 an hour.

[Atticus]

Well, today is the day- Love you guys, Brunkel will miss ya'll

[f0xx]

We will miss him too.

Be safe.

Come back soon.

[Dead Voodoo Doll]

Be safe, you leaving Beaufort? Too bad you had to endure another summer down there.

[inscribed]

i'm currently airforce' date=' been in for 7 years this enlistment was my "2nd chance" for the military, i think i've given up on it. I miss having the ability to get a new job when i had a jerk for a boss. In the military you just have to deal with it until they pcs. Unfortunately most of the idiots who cant get jobs on the outside are the ones who end up in charge.[/quote']

You are going to have crap bosses at any job. You just learn to deal with them and work around them. Even as a civilian, are you going to quit every time you have a boss you don't like? This might work for low wage jobs, but if you are trying to build a career, a resume full of one off jobs that you quit will not get you far.

I see a lot of this "victim" attitude in the military and it makes me shake my head every time. As long as you have right on your side and more job knowledge than any one else, there are ways around everything and a crappy boss is not going to hold you back, especially in the military with a clearly defined chain of command. Excuses are easier though. I don't know your situation, so I can't comment specifically, but in my experience, people with this attitude and these hard-luck stories always bring it on themselves.

This isn't a flame against you, just more of a suggestion to take a hard look at your situation and decide if your boss/supervisor is really the root of your problems with the military.

[Dlysier]

the trick is after basic you get in the spot light by messin up, then everything good you do is noticed so youll get promoted quick haha fail proof plan booiiiyy!! and remember If they dont see your name tape run away!! mps stop chasin after a quarter mile!! And if you get a leadership role dont do fire guard unless u wanna make extra bucks then its cool but for the most part sleep all u want and give those duties to the **** bags!

[Dead Voodoo Doll]

You are going to have crap bosses at any job. You just learn to deal with them and work around them. Even as a civilian, are you going to quit every time you have a boss you don't like? This might work for low wage jobs, but if you are trying to build a career, a resume full of one off jobs that you quit will not get you far.

This isn't a flame against you, just more of a suggestion to take a hard look at your situation and decide if your boss/supervisor is really the root of your problems with the military.

cosign

[tassinvegeta]

You are going to have crap bosses at any job. You just learn to deal with them and work around them. Even as a civilian, are you going to quit every time you have a boss you don't like? This might work for low wage jobs, but if you are trying to build a career, a resume full of one off jobs that you quit will not get you far.

I see a lot of this "victim" attitude in the military and it makes me shake my head every time. As long as you have right on your side and more job knowledge than any one else, there are ways around everything and a crappy boss is not going to hold you back, especially in the military with a clearly defined chain of command. Excuses are easier though. I don't know your situation, so I can't comment specifically, but in my experience, people with this attitude and these hard-luck stories always bring it on themselves.

This isn't a flame against you, just more of a suggestion to take a hard look at your situation and decide if your boss/supervisor is really the root of your problems with the military.

No! You won't experience crap bosses at every job. That's a very negative way to look at things. I have noticed that in the civilian world bosses are much more civilized, people are much more civilized. And its obvious why. In the military your bosses and supervisors can get away with much more, if those same people performed the same way in the civilian world they would be more proned to getting fired and facing all types of disciplinary action. In the military there really is no such thing as getting fired, which leaves alot of opportunity to treat others with disrespect and inferiority. When faced with this, the opportunity to quit and leave the situation must be there else you'll lose your sanity and either hurt someone or yourself or simply stop caring about your job. Wanting to quit one job because of a jerk boss doesn't mean that same person has a habit of doing so at every job. Even still, everyone has a right to that freedom.

I had one IT1 whom was pretty much a bootcamp drill instructor whom was known for not being able to control her emotions and outbursts. As an IT her knowledge was laughable compared to mine. Fact: Many times her own boss (an Officer) had to undermine her authority to protect us.

I had another IT1 whom knew nearly nothing about her job and was known for a bad stuttering habit. Not only that but she lacked the basic elements of common sense and preferred to do things the hard way as if we were still in pre-historic times. Fact: She was being allowed to retire out of the Navy due to higher tenure and thus was only responsible for manual labor.

Another IT1 I had enjoyed veering periously close to sexual harrassment. He liked to sniff people, stand very closely behind them, pretend eskimo kisses, amongst other things I probably cannot say here. He dealt with network securty so had many ways of protecting himself through blackmail of which he would bring up constantly (though only sometimes veiled under humor).

There were two others that probably had no place in a leadership position during my 2 1/2 years aboard. But these people will be enough to last me a lifetime. Never have I experienced so much of this within such a short period of time. In comparison to the workplace pre and post Navy I haven't experienced anywhere near the same.

[Imoutgoodbye]

No! You won't experience crap bosses at every job. That's a very negative way to look at things. I have noticed that in the civilian world bosses are much more civilized, people are much more civilized. And its obvious why. In the military your bosses and supervisors can get away with much more, if those same people performed the same way in the civilian world they would be more proned to getting fired and facing all types of disciplinary action. In the military there really is no such thing as getting fired, which leaves alot of opportunity to treat others with disrespect and inferiority. When faced with this, the opportunity to quit and leave the situation must be there else you'll lose your sanity and either hurt someone or yourself or simply stop caring about your job. Wanting to quit one job because of a jerk boss doesn't mean that same person has a habit of doing so at every job. Even still, everyone has a right to that freedom.

I had one IT1 whom was pretty much a bootcamp drill instructor whom was known for not being able to control her emotions and outbursts. As an IT her knowledge was laughable compared to mine. Fact: Many times her own boss (an Officer) had to undermine her authority to protect us.

I had another IT1 whom knew nearly nothing about her job and was known for a bad stuttering habit. Not only that but she lacked the basic elements of common sense and preferred to do things the hard way as if we were still in pre-historic times. Fact: She was being allowed to retire out of the Navy due to higher tenure and thus was only responsible for manual labor.

Another IT1 I had enjoyed veering periously close to sexual harrassment. He liked to sniff people, stand very closely behind them, pretend eskimo kisses, amongst other things I probably cannot say here. He dealt with network securty so had many ways of protecting himself through blackmail of which he would bring up constantly (though only sometimes veiled under humor).

There were two others that probably had no place in a leadership position during my 2 1/2 years aboard. But these people will be enough to last me a lifetime. Never have I experienced so much of this within such a short period of time. In comparison to the workplace pre and post Navy I haven't experienced anywhere near the same.

There's the voice of reason pointing the direction to reality.

Thank you, sir.

[inscribed]

No! You won't experience crap bosses at every job. That's a very negative way to look at things. I have noticed that in the civilian world bosses are much more civilized, people are much more civilized. And its obvious why. In the military your bosses and supervisors can get away with much more, if those same people performed the same way in the civilian world they would be more proned to getting fired and facing all types of disciplinary action. In the military there really is no such thing as getting fired, which leaves alot of opportunity to treat others with disrespect and inferiority. When faced with this, the opportunity to quit and leave the situation must be there else you'll lose your sanity and either hurt someone or yourself or simply stop caring about your job. Wanting to quit one job because of a jerk boss doesn't mean that same person has a habit of doing so at every job. Even still, everyone has a right to that freedom.

I had one IT1 whom was pretty much a bootcamp drill instructor whom was known for not being able to control her emotions and outbursts. As an IT her knowledge was laughable compared to mine. Fact: Many times her own boss (an Officer) had to undermine her authority to protect us.

I had another IT1 whom knew nearly nothing about her job and was known for a bad stuttering habit. Not only that but she lacked the basic elements of common sense and preferred to do things the hard way as if we were still in pre-historic times. Fact: She was being allowed to retire out of the Navy due to higher tenure and thus was only responsible for manual labor.

Another IT1 I had enjoyed veering periously close to sexual harrassment. He liked to sniff people, stand very closely behind them, pretend eskimo kisses, amongst other things I probably cannot say here. He dealt with network securty so had many ways of protecting himself through blackmail of which he would bring up constantly (though only sometimes veiled under humor).

There were two others that probably had no place in a leadership position during my 2 1/2 years aboard. But these people will be enough to last me a lifetime. Never have I experienced so much of this within such a short period of time. In comparison to the workplace pre and post Navy I haven't experienced anywhere near the same.

I don't know what to tell you, dude. That just sounds like a bunch of complaining about having a crappy boss, which everyone has to deal with at some point or another. None of those situtations are something I would personally let effect me or let stand for very long, but I'm the kind of guy that doesn't settle for a situation I don't like and I always end up getting what I want. It comes down to attitude and whether or not you are someone easily defeated by other people. It's not a matter of being either military or civilian, it's a matter of either making excuses or coming up with solutions.

Also, under no circumstance would I ever put up with someone 'sniffing' me, nor do I think would most of my coworkers. That might just be a difference in attitude between branches/career fields though.