The-Nameless Posted September 26, 2012 Report Share Posted September 26, 2012 http://m.yahoo.com/w/legobpengine/news/blogs/sideshow/world-bacon-shortage-unavoidable-223157784.html?orig_host_hdr=news.yahoo.com&.intl=US&.lang=en-US This is it. The end is nigh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imoutgoodbye Posted September 26, 2012 Report Share Posted September 26, 2012 Oh, goodie. You can switch to Turkey Bacon and be more like me, Brother Nameless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celerity Posted September 26, 2012 Report Share Posted September 26, 2012 Droughts are to blame? Hahhhh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demiterracotta Posted September 27, 2012 Report Share Posted September 27, 2012 Bought two pigs last month. I'll be k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pali Posted September 27, 2012 Report Share Posted September 27, 2012 Droughts are to blame? Hahhhh! According to the article, droughts hitting hard maize and soya crops - which the droughts this year did do - caused a raise in the price of pig-feed, which will lead to less pig-meat next year as the cost of creating pig-meat will have gone up due to the diminished available supply of pig-feed. Though I admit to not having fact-checked the article much beyond knowing that the droughts this summer hit a lot of US crops hard, particularly corn and soy, and so I'm open to being corrected on the details, this seems to be a fairly simple and reasonable cause-effect chain here... why do you find it laughable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mali Posted September 27, 2012 Report Share Posted September 27, 2012 What I find laughable is the industries call for pork subsidies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyzarius Posted September 27, 2012 Report Share Posted September 27, 2012 According to the article' date=' droughts hitting hard maize and soya crops - which the droughts this year did do - caused a raise in the price of pig-feed, which will lead to less pig-meat next year as the cost of creating pig-meat will have gone up due to the diminished available supply of pig-feed. Though I admit to not having fact-checked the article much beyond knowing that the droughts this summer hit a lot of US crops hard, particularly corn and soy, and so I'm open to being corrected on the details, this seems to be a fairly simple and reasonable cause-effect chain here... why do you find it laughable?[/quote'] Yeah, Pali pretty much summed up the economics and logistical problems building behind the pork price issue. If you read/watch the news and current event, this has even been touted as a possible consequence of the drought by farmers and the meat industry for a few months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Forsaken Posted September 27, 2012 Report Share Posted September 27, 2012 Oh' date=' goodie. You can switch to Turkey Bacon and be more like me, Brother Nameless.[/quote'] I refuse to eat Turkey Bacon. There is no such part of a turkey where 'bacon' should legitimately come from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celerity Posted September 27, 2012 Report Share Posted September 27, 2012 Although the politics and roller threads were quite enough of an argument for me, and so without spending a lot of time explaining, I feel that food prices are as they are far more because of monetary policy than to seasonal weather variation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyzarius Posted September 28, 2012 Report Share Posted September 28, 2012 Although the politics and roller threads were quite enough of an argument for me' date=' and so without spending a lot of time explaining, I feel that food prices are as they are far more because of monetary policy than to seasonal weather variation.[/quote'] Droughts cause crop shortages, pigs eat feed. This isnt some wild conspiracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inscribed Posted September 28, 2012 Report Share Posted September 28, 2012 Although the politics and roller threads were quite enough of an argument for me' date=' and so without spending a lot of time explaining, I feel that food prices are as they are far more because of monetary policy than to seasonal weather variation.[/quote'] But arguing is fun! It gets lonely being the only voice of reason in these types of threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inscribed Posted September 28, 2012 Report Share Posted September 28, 2012 Droughts cause crop shortages' date=' pigs eat feed. This isnt some wild conspiracy.[/quote'] She isn't implying a conspiracy. Yes, there is a drought, but that by itself does not account for the sharp increase in prices. Without fail, when the government interferes with market forces, it backfires. It's a really simple lesson! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imoutgoodbye Posted September 28, 2012 Report Share Posted September 28, 2012 Yes, that's the government at work for you. No way it's cross-speculation in the global markets driving prices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demiterracotta Posted September 30, 2012 Report Share Posted September 30, 2012 Corn is the top subsidized crop in the United States, just so everyone knows. Corn growers have been double dipping for years. Even before the ethanol mandate became an issue. I think they should remove all subsidies. Because the only farmers I have ever met that actually benefit from subsidies are the giants. My crop subsidy check the only year I decided to fill out the twenty hours of paperwork to get was a whopping two hundred dollars. Which I decided while nice wasn't worth me doing the time and I can make it just fine without it. Celerity is right, and Kyzarius is right. (I know, but it's true.) Monetary policy has affected the price of food. Recently with the ethanol mandate it's been more pronounced, but it has been going on for a long time. The weather hurts the prices even more. Thus it's not necessarily one or the other that would account for such a drastic increase in price. Both together are what really has accounted for it. And it will be the same next year. In one sector or another, this happens. Last year the beef industry got hit HARD. This year producers are seeing the best prices that have happened in my lifetime. Which is nice, because buying corn will be easier. All in all, we still have the most plentiful and safest food supply the world has ever seen. So I think we'll be ok. (Except for Foxx, he'll be wintering with pigs.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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