zenofokl Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 Some players are just so annoying about promos that we don't promo them just to spite them. Yeah... :eek: Hahah that's great!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The-Nameless Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 That explains why Thulgan took a year to get Leader. What an annoying jerk that guy is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I've Killed for Less Posted October 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 I have another question that I am unsure about regarding cabals... How many elders can there be in a cabal, and how many leaders. If I had to guess, I would say only two elders, and only one leader.... Are my assumptions correct? Thanks!!! -Charles IKFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayroduth Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 Yes. 1 Leader 1 Elder of each subcabal Example 1 Knight Leader 1 Sigil Elder 1 Praetorian Elder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evangelion Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 This could be blatant misinformation, but I was under the impression that when the cabal is completely full, you can have three elders. Hence why Nexus had three at the beginning of this summer (Antoyss, Achskel, and Levign). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayroduth Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 This could be blatant misinformation' date=' but I was under the impression that when the cabal is completely full, you can have three elders. Hence why Nexus had three at the beginning of this summer (Antoyss, Achskel, and Levign).[/quote'] Never seen or heard of that, but I havent the slightest clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The-Nameless Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 I have been e with two others in wm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f0xx Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 Yes. 1 Leader 1 Elder of each subcabal Example 1 Knight Leader 1 Sigil Elder 1 Praetorian Elder Well, we've had 3 elders many times before, so dunno what to call on this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Implementor Volgathras Posted October 17, 2012 Implementor Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 Yes, when a cabal is full three elders are possible. While ideally we'd have a leader and a balance of other subcabals in leadership positions, it rarely works out that way - something that's especially pronounced in some cabals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyzarius Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 I always wondered why players get flamed when they ask for or about promotions. Yet have no informed way of knowing if they are even noticed for promotion. If you do not ask, you often times languish waiting forever, until you do ask. Then get griped at for asking, then get promoted a week later, because the imm usually had just forgotten. Why we gate promotions by making an imm responsible for them, then get mad when people ask about them, is beyond me. Even if you inquire about the status of your promotion in an entirily in game IC manner, you get lambasted for it. If you do not want to be asked about promotions, then do not put yourself in a position where people have to come to you to get promoted. You take character progress, hinge it to immortal whim, then get mad if people ask when they will get promoted. Just seems like a catch 22 to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f0xx Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 I always wondered why players get flamed when they ask for or about promotions. Yet have no informed way of knowing if they are even noticed for promotion. If you do not ask, you often times languish waiting forever, until you do ask. Then get griped at for asking, then get promoted a week later, because the imm usually had just forgotten. Why we gate promotions by making an imm responsible for them, then get mad when people ask about them, is beyond me. Even if you inquire about the status of your promotion in an entirily in game IC manner, you get lambasted for it. If you do not want to be asked about promotions, then do not put yourself in a position where people have to come to you to get promoted. You take character progress, hinge it to immortal whim, then get mad if people ask when they will get promoted. Just seems like a catch 22 to me. Very well put K. That's just part of the problems with the current promotion/induction system too, hence my last suggestion about putting multiple immortals leading multiple cabals. Sadly, despite many immortals posting on the thread, none of them bothered to stay on topic and discuss the actual idea and problems, naturally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celerity Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 Very well put K. That's just part of the problems with the current promotion/induction system too, hence my last suggestion about putting multiple immortals leading multiple cabals. Sadly, despite many immortals posting on the thread, none of them bothered to stay on topic and discuss the actual idea and problems, naturally. That is usually a good sign they can't find anything obvious to disagree with, but aren't going to do it anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Implementor Volgathras Posted October 18, 2012 Implementor Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 re Foxx; from what I read it seemed as though the administrators DID read and respond. Since I overlooked the thread myself, I took the time to write back to you. re Celerity; as you know from experience some of these ideas are seriously considered for implementation, and some aren't. If they aren't, it may be because there are serious issues, or it may be because the benefits do not outweigh the cost or risk. If we don't respond, assuming we didn't do so because we simply didn't want to is erroneous and offensive. I didn't respond personally because I'd missed it and was away. Other immortals have responded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Implementor Volgathras Posted October 18, 2012 Implementor Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 I'll also take this space to address the notion of asking for promotions; There is a marked difference between presenting information for a promotion and coming forth to say you deserve one. I won't look poorly on anyone who comes to me with well-thought out reasons why they should be promoted. I WILL make you wait until your *** has bed-sores if you say something along the lines of 'Soandso got a promotion and I didn't, even though I'm better. WTF is your problem.' Why do we do this? Frankly, to protect ourselves. If we were to allow anyone to up and bitch about their promotional status without answering to it in some fashion we'd inevitably get everyone and their mother on our *** making accusations of favoritism, being ignored, its unfair, my toe-nail hurts, and any other myriad of reasons why they should be promoted and why the administration sucks. In the work environment, you don't stomp in to your employers office and say 'I wanna raise you cheap donkey-face pig-licker.' You make your case. You might argue that this is a game, and not real life, but it's and RPG game, where you play a role, and for cabals, part of that role is working for a superior, who makes the decisions, towards a common goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drokmar Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 +1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_nightmare Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 Just to mention that the game is mend to be for fun, and when you knock on the door of your boss, it is how you make a living and feed your family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-3000 Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 But if you get everything by just snapping your fingers, this game grows boring very fast. Why a game ment to be fun can't require that you put in some efford? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EyeSeeU Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 +2 on Volgs behalf. I would have to agree, most things in life worth an effort are not free, so why should this be any different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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