Belian

[the_nightmare]

I just logged in to find myself cabal expelled with no reason listed.I don't have any IG notes, I do not have any explanation or anything.I do not think this is quite fair because I followed the commandments strictly, did a lot of things for Knight and was very active, but I guess such are the risks of the player runned cabals.

I rolled Belian mainly to try to bring some balance a bit because what I saw was that Nexus is dominating all over.I wanted to make the game more interesting for Knight and Nexus both, but most of all I wanted to fight strong enemies so I can improve myself RP and PK wise.

Really wanted to condead this one, I had nearly 150 hours of playtime for around 2 weeks which is quite a lot of time invested.I will ask the Immortals not to blame me for deleting so quickly because if such thing occurs to anyone, I think that he will become dissapointed very quickly and shelf.

I have so big list of players I want to give shouts outs to:

Secundus - One of the best zerkers I ever fought.

Thulgan - You are so long lived but always classy the same way.

Kahnt - Very strong opponent with very nasty tattoo .

Sulphax - 50% ot Belian's deaths are to you.Enough said

Watern - Very classy, big potential and Belian's soulmate

Naeema - Keep going!

Serin - You are getting very good, mad props for sticking out.

Thanks guys see you IG

[Spark215]

? What.

edit: Great character, super powerful. Wondered, at first, why you went Avian but then realized it in our fights.

[Insepiddeception]

You made an impact. Lets just say that. I always smile when someone makes a melee oriented ninja and makes a mark. Last one was Antoyys i believe.

[Mali]

Great character. Arguably the most active representative of KNIGHT.

Sometimes cabal things happen, my advice is to take it in stride as a character and not as a player. If other KNIGHT leadership removed you then it is an IC action which does not reflect immortal views of your character. If you were removed for political reasons then you could always come back and take leadership of the cabal later.

I do think there is a role for Belian even outside of KNIGHT but understand your decision to move on.

I also think that whomever removed you, whether a player or an imm, has an RP responsibility here.

[the_nightmare]

Great character. Arguably the most active representative of KNIGHT.

Sometimes cabal things happen, my advice is to take it in stride as a character and not as a player. If other KNIGHT leadership removed you then it is an IC action which does not reflect immortal views of your character. If you were removed for political reasons then you could always come back and take leadership of the cabal later.

I do think there is a role for Belian even outside of KNIGHT but understand your decision to move on.

I also think that whomever removed you, whether a player or an imm, has an RP responsibility here.

I am sorry but I cannot agree with you, I have played a Nexus elder, and I never intended to remove anyone from the cabal, I would rather RP it out to show him his errors than to strive to kick him out completely I know that there is a future for Belian even outside KNIGHT but I do not simple have the time to wait another weeks or months to be able to rejoin again, I prefer to play something fresh and new.Thanks for the advice, Mali

[tassinvegeta]

With your avatar, I don't think I can ever disagree with you. *muah* right back at ya.

[Ordaran]

Hmmm.....

[Mmm Coffee]

Being expelled with no warning or explanation would upset me too. Was it because you were TOO aggressive?

Hopefully this means I can visit Aruncus much less

[Ellwyn]

Hopefully this means I can visit Aruncus much less

Quoted for truth. You were one relentless fighter of the evil aligned. Hated and loved you at the same time. Look forward to your next.

[Aulian]

good character. Wonder what happened there

[The Forsaken]

This is not a flame bait, this is help with explanation since I read the vote. Be careful of who you mouth off to and tell 'you have no power over me in Knight.'

[mya]

Quoted for truth. You were one relentless fighter of the evil aligned. Hated and loved you at the same time. Look forward to your next.

I will say that I did not like Belian, mainly do his hyper aggressive tendencies.

Not that you did anything wrong, acceptable Purity zealot RP. The only fault, from an unbias perspective, was the prevalence of silent pk, which most of the Player Base is guilty of. But you did RP it once, and it was good (even if I was raging).

I don't even point the finger to the "Aggressive Sigil" rumor, because in my view the pacifist nature of Sigil is a determent to the game, and the system is at fault for enforcing it unto Sigils, who can't even chose Praetorian.

I give you much credit for taking the least traveled road and being a Meele Ninja.

Now, what is this about player controled Cabals?

Are you telling me that Leaders now have control of who to inductee, who to promote and who to expel?

If so can someone tell me which cabals are under this system, so that I do not waste my time joining them.

[Aulian]

You're dramatic Mya, its excellent.

I want to know what happened now, sounds intriguing.

If you were voted out by a vote it would have to be a majority rules sort of thing. But in fightin amoung Knights doesnt sound very... Well Knightly.

[Trick]

It's funny to me that Knights are supposed to all nice nice happy joy joy. They are in a war against the most evil force in the world. A force that murders and destroys for the hell of it. I think they have a right to be stressed and snap at each other.

How often in shows and movies do the good guys end up punching each other in the face? All the damn time. It creates an atmosphere. In fact, it creates a BETTER world. It makes it more alive when you see a character stressed out. Geoffram should be losing his **** right now, maybe not be fully visibly to everyone, but the guy is leading an army against Demons and stuff. I'd be stressed to the max.

EDIT: Though, in this particular situation..yeah..don't say stuff like that to your leadership lol.

[Cephirus]

@Mya: All of the cabals have the ability for their elders and leaders to submit a vote for expulsion of a member.

@Nightmare: I think you should not give up and rp this out. You have been quite active and certainly have your own case to make.

[Spark215]

@Mya: All of the cabals have the ability for their elders and leaders to submit a vote for expulsion of a member.

@Nightmare: I think you should not give up and rp this out. You have been quite active and certainly have your own case to make.

Seconded.

[mya]

I just logged in to find myself cabal expelled with no reason listed.I don't have any IG notes' date=' I do not have any explanation or anything.[/quote']

And I started typing my post before anyone mentioned he got voted out.

At first I thought it was an IMM, but then I remembered that IMMs don't do that stuff without reason and much less without warning. Then I tough it was a bug, till I noticed something about Knight Leadership, and that there was a Leader not lot ago.

Ok, why did he not see the vote? If I recall my Knights, votes came with a note, you did have a chance to vote on stuff affecting you, and votes took some time to pass.

So, what exactly are the management powers of a Leader?

What cabals other than Nexus/Knight actually have leaders?

[alldaymuddin]

booo

This really sucks, Knight barely has anyone else active..:eek:

[Akoz]

This really sucks' date=' Knight barely has anyone else active..:eek:[/quote']

Well that is a choice they had to make. Keep with having him or remove him and have one less to fight the war with.

[I've Killed for Less]

Thank Goodness!!!

Don't mean this in a bad way, I just mean I was horribly afraid to fight you. As the mind behind Asares, I was scared for my life when an avatar ninja joined the ranks of Knight. Looks like it's time for Asares to make his full comeback again. Hide ya kids, Hide ya wife, and hide ya backpack, cus im pilfer'n erry'body here.

-Asares

IKFL

[The Forsaken]

I to wish you would RP this out. Just because you got kicked out doesn't mean you can't get back in. Shelving a toon because 'life' happens to your toon is kind of a weak copout. I mean, in real life, if you get laid off from a job do you 'shelf' yourself? No. You keep going. Keep with it dude. Fight who you need to fight, do some apologizing or whatever if you need to do that. Get back in and get back to kicking butt.

[I've Killed for Less]

This really sucks' date=' Knight barely has anyone else active..:eek:[/quote']

This is a joke.....right?

IKFL

[jibber]

I to wish you would RP this out. Just because you got kicked out doesn't mean you can't get back in. Shelving a toon because 'life' happens to your toon is kind of a weak copout. I mean' date=' in real life, if you get laid off from a job do you 'shelf' yourself? No. You keep going. Keep with it dude. Fight who you need to fight, do some apologizing or whatever if you need to do that. Get back in and get back to kicking butt.[/quote']

I think kicking someone out without a reprimand (demotion) is a bit farfetched. Then again, I don't know the whole story.. but with what's been given out, it just seems a little too much.

[the_nightmare]

This is not a flame bait' date=' this is help with explanation since I read the vote. Be careful of who you mouth off to and tell 'you have no power over me in Knight.'[/quote']

Since you started this, let me put up a few words.First off you treat your Knights awfully like they are your slaves, when you asked me to attack neutrals, Belian told you NO.Then you told me that I am not fit for this cabal, I told you that it is up to the Leader who will decide this and that you have no power over me.Then for this the vote got started.When you play an Elder or Leader, you should be an inspiration to your cabalmates, not their bane, especially a Knight.

If I wanted a cabal with a dictatorship style of RP, I would have rolled a Nexus or Syndicate.You cannot expect in Knight everyone to agrees with you, and if not to kick them out just like that.I have invested real life hours into a single project, just to get booted because of someone's ego.Instead of Rp'ing the situation IC you decided to go OOC and kick one of your most active knight out.You played your character like someone who orders others around, and if someone doesn't agree with you, you kick him out just like a Nexian.The reason for I was kicked out was, because you wanted me to be agressive towards neutrals, which is AGAINST any Avatar policy and the views of Belian.I would like to ask the Immortals to look very careful the process of votings in the future, because such things that happened to me, should never occur.

[The-Nameless]

I think your last post is pretty over the line. Maybe that IS his RP. If you where not performing cabal duties (fighting your enemies) then perhaps that is why you where booted. You said you had problems fighting neutrals, you often fought me without problem. Last time we fought I was standing there, and made an observation. I had to let you heal because I just saw you fighting someone, and you attacked me without a word.

Your stating your RP is why you refused to do it, but you have to accept the consequences of your RP. I never understood how avatars get cabaled. Their duty can be counter to the cabal duties from time to time. Often your allied with a cabal that has evils in it. What then? Do you defy your god, or your cabal? The answer is Cabal, because your core character is the avatar, not the Knight avatar. Sometimes your duties to god are more important than your duties to your cabal, in an IC manner that is. To say he was OOC about his vote to boot you is pretty below the belt, and I doubt he even enjoyed doing it. But the char in question (if I am guessing correctly that is) has been the focus of some pretty heated RP from his cabal mates, and has stuck to his guns repeatedly without faltering his core values. I also firmly believe if he was in your position, then his character would have accepted the consequences of his RP and continued.