egreir Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 Pali you live in a country of bandaids...get used to it Oh there's a problem? Find something to make it less of a problem, we don't have time to deal with problems right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pali Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 Pali you live in a country of bandaids...get used to it Oh there's a problem? Find something to make it less of a problem, we don't have time to deal with problems right now. Very used to it. Doesn't stop it from being disappointing... But that's humanity in a nutshell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inscribed Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 Hand guns are already registered, and there are already restrictions in place against selling to minors. In the case of Sandy Hook, the kid stole the gun from his mother... there's no law that would of prevented that. The kid broke like 10 laws to begin with, adding another law into the mix for him to break wouldn't of changed anything. Like I said in the other thread... guns aren't going anywhere. We are already seeing 3D printers capable of making functioning guns. In another decade or two, we'll see people easily making whatever firearm they want in their garage. There is absolutely no way to legislate or regulate guns away. The problem needs to be attacked from the other side of the equation, if there is even a way to attack it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pali Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 The problem needs to be attacked from the other side of the equation' date=' if there is even a way to attack it.[/quote'] Social health focus FTW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inscribed Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 Well, I'd start with people accepting that the world is a dangerous place, even if we were privileged enough to be born into a relatively peaceful and prosperous era, and not to become complacent. Situational awareness saves more lives than anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aulian Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 Well' date=' I'd start with people accepting that the world is a dangerous place, even if we were privileged enough to be born into a relatively peaceful and prosperous era, and not to become complacent. Situational awareness saves more lives than anything else.[/quote'] We'll stick that in the next primary(grade) school news letter. "If your kids happen to die at school this week, remember its not our gun culture thats the problem its the fact they lack situational awareness." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inscribed Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 We'll stick that in the next primary(grade) school news letter. "If your kids happen to die at school this week, remember its not our gun culture thats the problem its the fact they lack situational awareness." Let's not exaggerate here. Lightning strikes still account for more fatalities than school shootings, they just don't attract the media attention. Deaths are always sad but knee jerk reactions that don't solve anything and/or worsen the issue are never the answer. We can't get rid of lightning strikes any more than we can get rid of guns. It's best to focus on things that can be improved, like education and situational awareness. Also, the Christmas loot thread is a happier place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aulian Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 Lightning stikes are random and could be called 'an act of god'? I think its somewhat different to me loading my .33 and going and shooting my flat mates in the head. You cant compare INTENTIONAL acts made possible by the availability of weapons to random events. Thats like comparing a saving scheme for retirement to winning the lotto to achieve the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demiterracotta Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 Please don't make fun of my retirement plan.....those powerball numbers are coming anyday now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f0xx Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 I find this thread very amusing I can understand owning a pistol. But fully automatic rifles? What for? Zombies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egreir Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 Because it is much more fun to shoot one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f0xx Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 I find my fun in things other than lethal arms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egreir Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 You asked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aulian Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 I find your attitude flippant and offensive Egreir. I think people like you should be the ones who have to call the families of the 6 year olds who get gunned down. Maybe then it wont be 'as much fun.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egreir Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 Flippant and aggressive? lol Shooting powerful guns with rapid rates of fire will always be fun, no matter how many idiots use them for evil purposes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The-Nameless Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 Stricter gun control will not make gun related violence less likely. Responsible gun owners are not the ones at fault here. It is irresponsible gun owners/illegal importing. You know I can go to a gun show right now, and get a "crushed" reciever for an ak-47. Now I cannot use that reciever because it is mangled, I can reverse engineer it, draw it in cad, and go plasma cam out a full auto, that I can slap into a completely legal, and CHEAP, SKS. I know have a full auto assault rifle for less than 200 dollars. Not only that it shoots serious rounds, 7.62x39. Ak47 rounds? I can go buy a spam can of that ammo for around 150. So for the price of less than half a paycheck, I can make a full auto assault rifle with a high rate of fire, and very high durability. They also make Bump stocks. Which turn semi auto weapons basically into full auto by using the recoil of a fired round to depress the barrel/chamber into a spring loaded stock, when it pushes back out, you automatically pull the trigger again. The issue lay in the readily available ways for people to gain access to firearms. I won't ever go on a shooting spree. I won't kill myself. I go buy guns. Two years from now I lose my mind and go bat****. Im now a huge public safety risk. We need more measures to protect these people out there. If that school had a procedure beyond a sign that says report to the front office, then that shooting could not have happened. If the mental health board followed the kendra act (NY) we could moniter which people have access to firearms, and could make their owners take measures to prevent it. We as a country have so many half policies in effect we cannot function properly in 75% of what we do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inscribed Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 Lightning stikes are random and could be called 'an act of god'? I think its somewhat different to me loading my .33 and going and shooting my flat mates in the head. You cant compare INTENTIONAL acts made possible by the availability of weapons to random events. Thats like comparing a saving scheme for retirement to winning the lotto to achieve the same thing. Intentional or not isn't the issue. You can't control the actions of other people any more than you can control the weather. The only thing you can control is your own actions. I fail to see how that distinction affects anything. There isn't a single law or regulation that could of prevented what happened. What could of been done to prevent it? If the mother had been a more responsible gun owner and kept her guns locked up, if the kid's mental issues had been dealt with differently, or if one of the school employees had been able to disable the attacker, then maybe things would have played out differently. Education and situational awareness, not more regulation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pali Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 And if guns were significantly more difficult to obtain, the mother might have never decided to buy any, and the kid might not have had access to any, and this might have not happened. Not saying we should ban guns - but we also shouldn't pretend that the above is not a possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elrozin Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 The green kool-aid is mine. Just as long as we're clear on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akoz Posted December 29, 2012 Report Share Posted December 29, 2012 Last Thursday night around midnight, a woman from Houston , Texas was ...arrested, jailed, and charged with manslaughter for shooting a man 6 times in the back as he was running away with her purse. The following Monday morning, the woman was called in front of the Arraignment Judge, sworn-in, and asked to explain her actions. The woman replied, "I was standing at the corner bus stop for about 15 minutes, waiting for the bus to take me home after work. I am a waitress at a local cafe. I was there alone, so I had my right hand on my pistol in my purse hanging on my left shoulder. All of a sudden I was spun around hard to my left. As I caught my balance, I saw a man running away with my purse. I looked down at my right hand and saw that my fingers were wrapped tightly around my pistol. The next thing I remember is saying out loud, "No Way Punk! You're not stealing my pay check and tips." I raised my right hand, pointed my pistol at the man running away from me with my purse, and started squeezing the trigger of my pistol. When asked by the arraignment judge, "Why did you shoot the man 6 times? The woman replied under oath, "Because, when I pulled the trigger the 7th time, it only went click." The woman was acquitted of all charges. She was back at work the next day! That's Gun Control, Texas Style Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Forsaken Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Last Thursday night around midnight, a woman from Houston , Texas was ...arrested, jailed, and charged with manslaughter for shooting a man 6 times in the back as he was running away with her purse. The following Monday morning, the woman was called in front of the Arraignment Judge, sworn-in, and asked to explain her actions. The woman replied, "I was standing at the corner bus stop for about 15 minutes, waiting for the bus to take me home after work. I am a waitress at a local cafe. I was there alone, so I had my right hand on my pistol in my purse hanging on my left shoulder. All of a sudden I was spun around hard to my left. As I caught my balance, I saw a man running away with my purse. I looked down at my right hand and saw that my fingers were wrapped tightly around my pistol. The next thing I remember is saying out loud, "No Way Punk! You're not stealing my pay check and tips." I raised my right hand, pointed my pistol at the man running away from me with my purse, and started squeezing the trigger of my pistol. When asked by the arraignment judge, "Why did you shoot the man 6 times? The woman replied under oath, "Because, when I pulled the trigger the 7th time, it only went click." The woman was acquitted of all charges. She was back at work the next day! That's Gun Control, Texas Style Yeah that didn't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinblades713 Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Just like the Grinch never happened. It's up to all of us to steal Christmas! Too late now though. D: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inscribed Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Yeah that didn't happen. I'm pretty sure he was being funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Forsaken Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Oh. Sorry. I don't have much of a sense of humor when it comes to guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inscribed Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 On a side note, I just picked up an XDS today. The entire process involved me walking into the BX, filling out a form, waiting 20 min for my background check to process, swiping my credit card, and walking out of the store with gun in hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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