f0xx Posted February 1, 2013 Report Share Posted February 1, 2013 I got a marauder at 41 and a ranger at 30... but I don't seem to like their playstyle so decided to give the wizzie a chance, but the northern part of the tree is completely unfamiliar to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beveril Posted February 1, 2013 Report Share Posted February 1, 2013 Does Iron Reflexes convert evasion from equip too? Or is it just personal evasion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f0xx Posted February 1, 2013 Report Share Posted February 1, 2013 Does Iron Reflexes convert evasion from equip too? Or is it just personal evasion. Your "personal" evasion is all your equip evasion multiplied by all the modifiers you have. The formula is the following: (total evasion * evasion multiplier) + (total armor * armor multiplier) = armor with iron reflexes on Kyz, how much life you've got? That builds looks extremely glass cannon-like.... Also, how do you create the power charges? If yes, how do you manage to keep them up? [edit] Btw, some of you might find this tool useful. NOTE! The first start of the program will take a while. No worries, it's normal. Needs .net4 to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akoz Posted February 1, 2013 Report Share Posted February 1, 2013 I am reworking my previous Marauder build. Attributes +530 Str +74 Dex +64 Int Spell +72 Max Mana Defence +375 Max Life +53 Evasion Rating +339% Max Life (1271 Life JUST FROM PASSIVES!) +7.4% Life Regen +2% Life Leech +10% Shield Block +40% Defense From Shields +33% Fire Resistance +33% Lightning Resistance +15% Cold Resistance +12.8% Energy Shield +14.8% Evasion Rating Charge +5 Max Endurance Charge +3 Max Frenzy Charge +3 Max Power Charge +5% Resistances Per Endurance Charge +5% Damage Reduction Per Endurance Charge Crit -30% Received Crit Damage Never Deal Crit Strikes Weapon +15% Attack Speed +30% One Handed Weapon DMG +3% Attack Speed /w One Handed Mace +26% DMG with maces +106% Melee DMG Misc Your hits can NOT be evaded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beveril Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 Ok, lost my HC duelist because of some stupidity. This is what I was going for, and what I'm going to try again. It looks decently survivable to me. +62% resist all, +30% fire and ice damage on weaons, +60% elemental weapon damage, Iron Reflexes, Unvwavering Stance, and what I hope is enough +dex and +acc nodes to give me a decent to-hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inscribed Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 Ok, lost my HC duelist because of some stupidity. This is what I was going for, and what I'm going to try again. It looks decently survivable to me. +62% resist all, +30% fire and ice damage on weaons, +60% elemental weapon damage, Iron Reflexes, Unvwavering Stance, and what I hope is enough +dex and +acc nodes to give me a decent to-hit. You were two points away from Resolute Technique. Why not pick that up? That way, you free up all those points you spend in accuracy boosts. You didn't pick up anything in the way of crit bonuses, so the loss of critical hits isn't a loss to your build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inscribed Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 [edit] Btw, some of you might find this tool useful. NOTE! The first start of the program will take a while. No worries, it's normal. Needs .net4 to work. I crashed it trying to load my equipment. Is there a way to calculate stats assuming no equipment, or some sort of default weapon? Also, it'd be cool to have projectile damage/speed boosts stack with bow damage/speed boosts for easier viewing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beveril Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 A good point. I'll revise that to take that into account. Edit: And flipping to resolute technique allows me to pick up a 2nd body and soul for +72% resist all. And an additional +80% armor. See it here. Here's a slightly squishier version (probably) but I kind of want to test it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inscribed Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 A good point. I'll revise that to take that into account. Edit: And flipping to resolute technique allows me to pick up a 2nd body and soul for +72% resist all. And an additional +80% armor. See it here. I was messing around with your build some. Dexterity is arguably the weakest stat in your build, since accuracy isn't a factor, and additional armor from evasion has diminishing returns after a certain point. You also still had three nodes for Accuracy boosts, as well as the points invested in nodes leading up to that cluster. Leather and Steel isn't as great as you'd think with Iron Reflexes... it doesn't double stack. I took those points out and redistributed them to give you better Str and Int (for better attack, health, and energy shield), higher regen (%5.0 total now), higher move speed, and a true 70% boost to armor. http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgQBAdwCcQSxBLMFLQthDq0Y2xkuG8gb-iFgJIsl3yftKLUpLilPKaUyCTKJOrM9D0CgQzFDY0OcRtdHfkp9TGBN2E4qU99USVWpVbVXDVfiWNtY9VnzW69dxl4TXz9gS2CIYVJmnmebZ6BxTXKpdO108Xdid-V4DXloeu98u3zZgW-Cm4TZhO-Hdox2kAqQVZe0mSuaz5uDncSePJ65ns2fy6IApBmrxayqrLq0-bUEtzG53b6KwBrBBMT2xYrKkMzb0EfSIdSP2WHdDd9v5CLnUuw47w7vTvAf8i_z3fzF This build also has you two points away from Fencing, 8% chaos resist, Celerity, or another 6% elemental resist, so there is room to tweak depending on what you need. Armour Master is also a good investment for a single point to give you a big increase in move speed, depending on what you're wearing. As an aside, investing so heavily in energy shield may be spreading your resources a bit thin. With Iron Reflexes, it pays to wear Armor/Evasion gear, but it's hard to capitalize on your ES nodes without wearing Armor/Energy gear. So you're stuck either mixing gear to limited effect, or only using one of your investments to full effect. Just a thought. Instead of investing in ES, you could still easily hit +78% resist across the board by taking resist slots near Diamond Skin/Heart of the Gladiator, and picking up the other +6% I mentioned earlier. This would free up all of your points you invested going north on the board to pick up those ES nodes, which you could put into added damage/health. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inscribed Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 died to piety, lvl 40 I definitely need to pick up ele resist earlier on. I also don't think Ranger puts you in the best position for a HC bow build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mali Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 HC 2.0 for Inscribed and I. Both of our characters died in Lunaris Temple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mali Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 Critique please. Duelist based on 75 passive points http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgQBAAYB3AUtCLEOrRHVEiAUUhR1FfYXHRjbG_ohYCXfJ9UotSmlLIUyCTboOlI67T_8QKBDnEd-Sn1VqVYEV5dYr1oaW69dAF6LYEFgS2CIYVJieWVNZ6Bqk3TtdPF4DXrvhNmGYIcph3aXtJstnrmfy6QZq8WsurZBvoq-p8APwdjEWM_40O7STdXt3Q3fv-hm7073o_zF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inscribed Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 Critique please. Duelist based on 75 passive points http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgQBAAYB3AUtCLEOrRHVEiAUUhR1FfYXHRjbG_ohYCXfJ9UotSmlLIUyCTboOlI67T_8QKBDnEd-Sn1VqVYEV5dYr1oaW69dAF6LYEFgS2CIYVJieWVNZ6Bqk3TtdPF4DXrvhNmGYIcph3aXtJstnrmfy6QZq8WsurZBvoq-p8APwdjEWM_40O7STdXt3Q3fv-hm7073o_zF http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgQBAAYB3AHnBS0OrRHVEiAUIBRSFHUV9hcdGNsb-h3KIWAl3yi1KNsppSyFLOkyCTSTNug6UjqzOu1AoEOcR35KfVBHValWBFeXWK9aGls9W69dAF6LYEFgiGFSYnljcGegdPF4DYTZhmCHdpe0my2euZ_LpBmnMKvFrLq-ir6nwdjP-NBH0O7dDd-_3-_vTu_j96P3vvzF I tweaked it some. I don't like the armor + evasion nodes in conjunction with Iron Reflexes. It doesn't double stack like you think it would, and armor has diminishing value after a certain point, and you already have over +100% in armor from other nodes. I also don't like spending points on 0.4% regen nodes or 8% hp nodes when there are 1.0-1.5% regen nodes around, or 10%-12%hp nodes around. I also took out some redundant dex nodes. In return, you get 2% life leech, a huge boost to Str (your most important stat), 12% more elemental resistance (huge), extra DPS from +physical while dual wielding nodes, and most importantly, an extra 16% block while dual wielding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akoz Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 Yes, it was like... well it was good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f0xx Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 I crashed it trying to load my equipment. Is there a way to calculate stats assuming no equipment' date=' or some sort of default weapon? Also, it'd be cool to have projectile damage/speed boosts stack with bow damage/speed boosts for easier viewing.[/quote'] Well lets start by saying I am not the one who made the tool. The original thread is here here. That being said, I haven't tried loading my EQ yet. Just use it to see the cumulative bonuses. [edit] Your builds are starting to look really awesome guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f0xx Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 I was messing around with your build some. Dexterity is arguably the weakest stat in your build, since accuracy isn't a factor, and additional armor from evasion has diminishing returns after a certain point. You also still had three nodes for Accuracy boosts, as well as the points invested in nodes leading up to that cluster. Leather and Steel isn't as great as you'd think with Iron Reflexes... it doesn't double stack. I took those points out and redistributed them to give you better Str and Int (for better attack, health, and energy shield), higher regen (%5.0 total now), higher move speed, and a true 70% boost to armor. http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgQBAdwCcQSxBLMFLQthDq0Y2xkuG8gb-iFgJIsl3yftKLUpLilPKaUyCTKJOrM9D0CgQzFDY0OcRtdHfkp9TGBN2E4qU99USVWpVbVXDVfiWNtY9VnzW69dxl4TXz9gS2CIYVJmnmebZ6BxTXKpdO108Xdid-V4DXloeu98u3zZgW-Cm4TZhO-Hdox2kAqQVZe0mSuaz5uDncSePJ65ns2fy6IApBmrxayqrLq0-bUEtzG53b6KwBrBBMT2xYrKkMzb0EfSIdSP2WHdDd9v5CLnUuw47w7vTvAf8i_z3fzF This build also has you two points away from Fencing, 8% chaos resist, Celerity, or another 6% elemental resist, so there is room to tweak depending on what you need. Armour Master is also a good investment for a single point to give you a big increase in move speed, depending on what you're wearing. As an aside, investing so heavily in energy shield may be spreading your resources a bit thin. With Iron Reflexes, it pays to wear Armor/Evasion gear, but it's hard to capitalize on your ES nodes without wearing Armor/Energy gear. So you're stuck either mixing gear to limited effect, or only using one of your investments to full effect. Just a thought. Instead of investing in ES, you could still easily hit +78% resist across the board by taking resist slots near Diamond Skin/Heart of the Gladiator, and picking up the other +6% I mentioned earlier. This would free up all of your points you invested going north on the board to pick up those ES nodes, which you could put into added damage/health. That build looks very promising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akoz Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 Yeah, builds are being tweaked every time I look at the build it seems. That is the point I guess, the farther you get into HC the more you learn. I am lvl 24(?) now again rolling around killing lvl 27-28 things, not sure how smart that is but we shall see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akoz Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 HC 2.0 for Inscribed and I. Both of our characters died in Lunaris Temple. Mali you know that's 6.0 for you Don't worry I'm on about that too The lag on my end seems to be getting worse, this morning I am not sure whats up but my frames keep dropping to choppy land. From 163 down to like 20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f0xx Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 This is the build I plan to use on my witch. Please critique it and find the strongest path for me to level 30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f0xx Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 I barely managed to kill Marveil with this witch.... died like 10 times... dunno if I should continue. Kyz, how do you deal with her? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inscribed Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 I haven't messed with the north part of the board any so I can't offer much critique. If my new character dies I'll probably try out a witch though. This is my attempt #2 at a Bow user, but I'm starting with Duelist instead of Ranger. Between Iron Grip and Iron Reflexes, I feel like Dex is over all a fairly useless stat, and by starting in Ranger, you are forced to take a couple dozen Dex nodes. With this Duelist build, I can focus on Str to much greater effect, while still keeping Dex high enough to meet equipment requirements and provide an enough of an armor bonus. I am also shooting for Crystal Skin this time, since Shock is what killed my previous character. http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgQBAdwB5wUtBYQOrRRSFHUVGhcdGNsZLhv6HOcg8CFgJd8n7Si1KS4ppTB8MgkyfjKUNug6UkCgQ5xE50d-UUdUSVWpVgRW-lcNWK9dAF8_YEtgiGEhYVJnZ2ebah5qO2qHbPZuqnKpdEF07XTxd2J313gNeu982X8CfyuC5ITZhO-GYIqvjX6QEZUFl7SbLZ65ns2fJ5_LpBmm4KcwqBipbqvFrKqsuq6TtfK3trndvqe-wcHYwoDE9s2Y0EfSIdSP2AvZYdnG3sbfv-Lq51LqYu8O707yL_Pd9776sfrx I also might ditch Armor Mastery to pick up Bloodless. Is life leech an issue later on? Also, LOL at 3 out of the top 5 in the American HC ladder dropping dead within 3 hours of each other, 2 of them to the same boss. Watch out for corpse explosion, kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deykari Posted February 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 Anyone interested in Shadows can hit me up for my build. Level 43, still haven't died yet, cruising through Act I and Act II Cruel like it's nothing. Merveil didn't stand a chance. Dey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f0xx Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 Anyone interested in Shadows can hit me up for my build. Level 43, still haven't died yet, cruising through Act I and Act II Cruel like it's nothing. Merveil didn't stand a chance. Dey Give me an adequate build then... I am getting really tired of dying... I got a level 42 Marauder, 28 ranger and now 18 Witch... don't like any of them much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inscribed Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 Anyone interested in Shadows can hit me up for my build. Level 43, still haven't died yet, cruising through Act I and Act II Cruel like it's nothing. Merveil didn't stand a chance. Dey Throw it up. We could get a list of builds going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mali Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 Dey, being in default league means your character is dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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