Weapon choice for Zerk.

[Mister E]

There must be something to shield block I don't know. When I have pked against a shield blocker I have seen it block so many of my attacks, when I am the shield blocker it seems to fail me oh so often :S

Also, do zerks still get weapon expert? I thought they lost that in the most recent changes.

[L-A]

There must be something to shield block I don't know. When I have pked against a shield blocker I have seen it block so many of my attacks, when I am the shield blocker it seems to fail me oh so often :S

Also, do zerks still get weapon expert? I thought they lost that in the most recent changes.

Fundamental attribution error

With regards to weapon expert - devastation get something similiar. I haven't played the other paths recently enough to have known.

L-A

[Enethier]

Also' date=' do zerks still get weapon expert? I thought they lost that in the most recent changes.[/quote']

Devestation gets a strange version of it. It doesn't directly affect their proficiency, but it does greatly increase their damage and defensive ability with it.

[Nekky]

Polearms are underrated as zerk weapons. Nameless is correct that against some classes your best tactic is to minimize damage, and wait for the perfect opportunity to go for a "game changer" like haymaker or cleave. That can really swing the fight your way, in a battle you would otherwise not be able to compete in melee wise. Polearms are ideal for this.

That being said, I still dual wield against blademasters.

[Enethier]

Which is what I was saying. Polearm for classes that can outmelee you, but axe/flail for those that cant (rogues and c/c). If you don't need to be defensive, you shouldn't. That's my thought on the matter.

[f0xx]

Note that the higher proficiency doesn't help defense' date=' only offense. So the defender can't take advantage of this.[/quote']

I would argue that.

That being said, anyone who's fought Nekky and Emp's zerkers will know that their advise is something one shouldn't wave and ignore easily. If you want to improve with zerkers, that is.

[Trick]

I would argue that.

That being said, anyone who's fought Nekky and Emp's zerkers will know that their advise is something one should wave and ignore easily. If you want to improve with zerkers, that is.

Emp_newb and Nekky both have played quite a few berserkers that have been very successful. Azzar was pretty beastly.

Man..you are such a dick that it nearly amazes me..

[f0xx]

Emp_newb and Nekky both have played quite a few berserkers that have been very successful. Azzar was pretty beastly.

Man..you are such a dick that it nearly amazes me..

That "should" there should have been "shouldn't".

Small typo

<3

[Trick]

"Should" is not in either statement.

[f0xx]

"Should" is not in either statement.

Jeez, look at my post you quoted. I had a typo in it, that is now bolded and corrected in my original post.

[The-Nameless]

Which is what I was saying. Polearm for classes that can outmelee you' date=' but axe/flail for those that cant (rogues and c/c). If you don't need to be defensive, you shouldn't. That's my thought on the matter.

While this is a sound theory in a vacuum, in practice it leads to alot of stalemated fights. For instance, you just fought a thief, based on your theory you are going axe/flail. Which means your basically trading damage with said thief. Now if thief opened with even a mediocre backstab, your in poor shape. You also can't flee because of traps, so you can recall, or rage. While you might win THIS pk, you are in an extremely vulnerable place for any opportunists lingering about (which we all know happens). By sacrificing a small bit of offense to use a polearm, you are going to be able to conserve precious hp so you can safely recall (remember those traps are still there) and get to your secret resting hole.

It comes down to experience I suppose. I have probably played at least 15 berserkers (and most people know maybe 3 of them?) so I spent alot of time getting tuned up and refining how I play. On paper, and in practice are vastly different things. For example, I almost NEVER weapon cleave, I will attempt 1-3 shield cleaves depending, but for the most part I don't bother because if I cleave your weapon you are going to flee, and I am going to be lagged. If I cleave your only shield, your going to flee, and go get another. Meaning all I did was hit reset. So you refine your berserker tactics, and begin to realize you can win without cleaves OR haymaker. I am not saying ignore the skills, I am suggesting that you not begin to use them as a required kill condition. a well time haymaker is like a free win, but it should not be the only way you can win. Another thing is what your OPPONENT expects from you. By throwing your opp off THEIR gameplan, you can turn a fight in your favor by breaking their "plan" and forcing them to make on the fly decisions. Which means they have 5-10 seconds to decide to flee because your did not haymaker them. Now if you had haymakered they would have fled because the condition for them getting out of the fight had been met (they got dispelled). So if you begin throwing curve balls in the fight (like NOT using haymaker often) they then begin to not expect it. Now THAT sets up for a fantastic win. By them no longer expecting you to haymaker, you can sneak them in and get 1-2 rounds of unsanced damage because you threw them off their gameplan. Zerks are a very skill intensive class, not trying to toot my own horn, but they are. Thats why you see so few successful berserkers. Its not just rage slam haymaker win. Raging one turn to early/late is often you dying. Using the wrong weapons for 2-3 rounds is death. The berserker can be the scariest thing in the game to fight, but it is also the easiest to play poorly (of non qclasses) a poorly played invoker can win a fight, a poorly played berserker learns how to reequip in 20 minutes.