Implementor Anume Posted January 31, 2014 Implementor Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 With the induction of rp points we have seen an overall increase in rp, moreso even than we had hoped for. The rewards you can "buy" with these points will be diverse and many, and will probably go in at the end of next month. On top of this, we've also decided that we will make a certain amount of rp points a requirement for cabal promotions past V rank. We might toy with the numbers a bit but it will be something like this: Nobility now requires a minimum of 20 rp points. If you fall beneath, you lose the flag. Royalty now requires a minimum of 40 rp points. If you fall beneath, you lose the flag. Any qclass/race now requires a minimum of 20 rp points. Restrings require a minimum of 5 rp points. Cabal T now requires a minimum of 5 rp points. Cabal Elders now require a minimum of 20 rp points. Cabal Leaders now require a minimum of 30 rp points. This will be applied for new apps and promotions, and - after a grace period - also for existing chars. We hope that this will put a stop to the attitude that we've seen on many past qraces and cabal L/E of "I've already reached what I wanted, I do not need to rp any more now". The points do not stack, so a restrung qrace L would still need 30 rp points to keep his position, a royal L would still need 40. We also would like to emphasize that fl is not a shooter game. We encourage rp and ic conduct. If a qrace or cabal L/E loses rp through going ooc, bad rp, cussing, etc. they are also in danger of losing their position, or, as a qrace, the character. Sidenote: We've also decided on an update on cabal positions: - you may not have a char in two hardcoded vendettaed cabals (nothing new) - You may not have more than one L at any given time. If you wish to get L in a cabal and already have a L in another, you will have to find a way with that cabal imm to demote you to E. - You may not have more than two Es or one L and an E at any given time. Reason: we do not wish for one character to dominate the whole political structure too much, influencing wars and alliances (in the worst case to benefit their other character(s). We also wish to give several players a chance to get these covetet positions. We also hope to encourage players to try to gain these positions via rp and notority if they lack on the side of pk success. How rp points can be earned: - ic notes (to all, to someone Immortal, to Herald, etc. Put Immortal on copy so we know what you are doing) - rp logs submitted on prayer (these will only get posted if it is not to the disadvantage of existing charcters AND it is wanted) - rp with yourself, other players, mobs, imms - filling in your history (depending on how much work you put in in, originality, quality) - applications (if they have a good quality) - soon to come: you'll get 1 automatic point for an approved desc to get you started 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enethier Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 How will this affect characters that were in place long before the RP point system? How will it affect characters that have already been approved for things such as q-races or nobility? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Implementor Anume Posted January 31, 2014 Author Implementor Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 After a grace period the same standards will be applied. We will not demote / deny anyone out of the blue. If we think you are lacking, we will talk to you and discuss the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enethier Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f0xx Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 Everything seems reasonable, why the "If you fall beneath, you lose the flag." though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Implementor Anume Posted January 31, 2014 Author Implementor Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 To give incentive As I said, we won't do it out of the blue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Implementor Anume Posted January 31, 2014 Author Implementor Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 And also, to avoid very bad behavior from qraces/cabal elders/leaders / nobles as we've had a couple times in the past. Bad behavior, like going ooc or cussing with cost them rp points. Thus, easier for us to judge if a char should just get a slap on the fingers bc their overall behavior is still vastly positive (ton of rp points that can suffer the penalty) or if they should be denied (hardly enough rp to even keep the thing without a penalty...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f0xx Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 So that line goes for Qstuff as well? My only bother is that people will have to keep RPs on their characters and will not be able to spend it... 40 RPs seems quite a nice amount to just let it sit on your character, not being able to spend it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Implementor Anume Posted January 31, 2014 Author Implementor Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 Intentional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamikazi Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 With the rate I make rp points, I will probably not be able to become T at all, bwahahah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Implementor Anume Posted January 31, 2014 Author Implementor Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 An odd statement, considering your char has more than he needs for T already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insepiddeception Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 Ahh crap. I cannot say why I am saying ahh crap but, ahh crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_body Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 How many RP points can be expected for a decent history vs a good vs a great history? How many RP points would be required for a reward? Are we talking something like a mass marketing scheme where you gotta have something like 10 million RP points to get a custom title, or are we talking 200, 100, 50, 25, 10? Just to get a general idea of what to expect so I'm not disappointed by preconceived notions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Implementor Anume Posted January 31, 2014 Author Implementor Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 You will usually get between 1 and 10 rp points for any form of interaction (rp session, history, ic note, etc). Awards will be between 15 and 80 rp points each. There will be a ton of different things though to chose from, so that choice will never be easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trick Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 History length is currently regulated and you can't really go into much detail or tell a story too well with it which could detract from not only the RP, but the ability to get RP points, is there a way we could increase the length of the history allowed? I am stuck with a history that is right in the middle of a story and I can't seem to edit it or delete it in any way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f0xx Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 History length is currently regulated and you can't really go into much detail or tell a story too well with it which could detract from not only the RP, but the ability to get RP points, is there a way we could increase the length of the history allowed? Agreed. Btw, you can delete it with ".c". Make sure parsing is disabled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trick Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 Anyway to put in the simple: "history -" or "history clear" Make each one specific to the type; purpose, personality, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Implementor Anume Posted January 31, 2014 Author Implementor Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 If you wish to tell a long story, use ic rp notes. A note does not have to be someone telling someone else anything, it can very well be a story of someone's past. Alternatively you can post such a story on prayer. The history should not be TOO long, so the Imms have a chance to actually have a glance at it and see if we can work it into some rp. You can also let us know if you updated anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_body Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 One of my chars RP was too long, so I requested a length increase. The staff suggested I shift the MOST important parts of the story between history, purpose, and personality. With some clever editing and a skeleton story instead of all fleshed out, it worked well actually. It takes some thinking and adjustment, but keeping it that short is possible. I still would like the length increased to 3000 characters (1 page of text in word) instead of 2300. Those extra characters really give you the room to wrap up a short idea, where 2300 makes it feel just a little too condensed...but maybe I'm just too long winded. :tongue: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mmm Coffee Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 To some degree I like this, in another sense I do not. Personally, I don't play this game for the extreme RP that some of you do. I do my best to make my chars seem original with emotes and speaking certain ways, and try to keep up with events...but I just don't have the vast amount of time many of you do. I see this being the beginning of the end for my chars as they will never be able to keep up with those who have a lot of time and OOC groups to RP with. Just my $0.02 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f0xx Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 I see this being the beginning of the end for my chars as they will never be able to keep up with those who have a lot of time and OOC groups to RP with. Lol, really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mmm Coffee Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 I guess time will tell...or I have to up my RP game. Guess I just don't like the cabal-promotion aspect of this. I agree RP is needed, but PK skill is also needed. For me PK > RP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mmm Coffee Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 Meh, damn slow connection won't let me edit my post. Something else I just thought of: How will this effect cabals with the coup system? Do you now have to wait until you have enough RP points to coup someone above you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trick Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 How will OOC rings HELP with RP points? In my experience characters interact LESS IG when they know each other OOC because its easier to say what you want in AIM than it is to RP it in game. RP improvement is ALWAYS a good thing..I don't see how this can even be contested.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mmm Coffee Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 I'm contesting the cabal-promotion aspect of it. Someone who doesn't have a heavy amount of play time shouldn't be ineligible for cabal promotion b/c they don't have a vast pool of RP points. To your comment about OOC groups - really? How hard is to organize an RP session OOC? I wouldn't know cuz i don't know any of you outside the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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