f0xx Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 By the time you are supposed to be promoted to T, you should have a nice amount of points even if you are not very active (like me) and suck at RP (like me). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The-Nameless Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 if you cannot put forth the effort required to be E or L, why should you be E or L? I think everyone wants to see active, and RP inducing elders, and leaders. These are problems i have had in the past. Never seeing a cabal leader, or very very rarely. I think this can be quite helpful, as they will be RPing MORE, and to do that will be more present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mmm Coffee Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 like I said, I guess time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Implementor Erelei Posted January 31, 2014 Implementor Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 Use journal to post an extended history. Works just like a note. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_body Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 Beer, it only takes 5 RP points to be eligible for T. You can receive up to TEN RP points for ONE interactions, be it note, history, RP session etc. Since the RP points system was instituted I have received multiple 5+ RP point awards. Most of them lasted no more than 30 minutes max. Since the time required to get to T is already 30-ish hours without a coup, that should be plenty of time. Since it usually takes 20+ hours just to make level 50, that should be PLENTY of time to amass FIVE RP points. Again, it doesn't stack, so only the highest required RP point level is all you need to have ALL the lower RP-points-required benefits (T, custom anything etc.) If youre doing what you said with motes and keeping up on current events, you'll make plenty of RP points organically. I'm confident that you'll be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_body Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 Use journal to post an extended history. Works just like a note. WHAT? There's a journal command? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Implementor Anume Posted January 31, 2014 Author Implementor Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 Re Mmm Beer: Even if you do not have much time, you can drop 2 or 3 rp notes to Immortal till you are up at level 50. Even if they suck badly, you'll most probably have your 5 rp point for T when you reach the time limit As to coups: Yes, after the grace period, having the necessary rp backup will also be a requirement to coup. We will make everyone aware when this is the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Implementor Anume Posted January 31, 2014 Author Implementor Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 I think this will all aid players to flesh out their characters and make it an overall better experience to EVERYONE. Logging on a character that has some depth, rp and purpose, perhaps also some conflicts and issues, is a lot more interesting than just sitting around doing nothing much at all. It's yet another thing to do (plan, write, scheme) when there are no cabal enemies logged on for you at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insepiddeception Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 I just saw this....theres a journal? That is completely awesome. I always felt like the tons of notes i sent out would get annoying to the imms and putting them all in one place seems convenient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mmm Coffee Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 The feedback here is enough to assume that other players are getting a lot of RP points...I have one char with almost 600 hrs w/ 20 RP points. I have another who I feel like I RP even more consistently with who has 2...which, by the OP, will make me ineligible for the combo I'm currently playing. I think my beef is with my own forecasted char issues. Namely in that EST play times don't tend to coincide with PST....where most players seem to be. There are times I can play during the 6-9 PST timezone that are awesome, but it's not consistent. I feel like this change is going to further alienate those of us who aren't able to consistently chime in during the prime login times. That's all - last of my $0.02 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Implementor Anume Posted February 1, 2014 Author Implementor Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 It is not truly necessary for you to meet anyone "important". You can rp with just about anyone or anyTHING, just submit a log of it on prayer. Or use rp notes, etc. I usually give out 1 rp point even if people just talk to each other a moment, when I see it. If there is real deeper rp going on, they get more. So chances are, you just need to make us more aware of what your chars are doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enethier Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 I can attest to that. I've received some 15 rp points just for talking to people from topics ranging from explaining drow culture to my history, and several instances of simply acting as the authority figure of Xymerria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mmm Coffee Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 I can attest to that. I've received some 15 rp points just for talking to people from topics ranging from explaining drow culture to my history' date=' and several instances of simply acting as the authority figure of Xymerria.[/quote'] Yeah, but you're one of those RP geniuses hah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enethier Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 I'm really not, though. You should have seen my first characters, they were awful. Even now, I really have only had this current character that has, I feel, achieved anything fantastic in RP. And I've learned from it that it is a matter of personal investment. This investment isn't always reflected in how often the character is played (Been around since late July, I believe. I still have less hours on it than characters that were rolled and deleted since I got to 50...) What I mean is that I have done a LOT of thinking and putting myself into situations that will probably never arise in order to get a better understanding of the character. I made a psychological profile, because I cannot relate any personal experience to how the vast majority of the character works. I picked apart everything I knew about drow society with the mindset of a small child. That is, I asked "Why?" a lot. And that's worked, I think. But ha... my other characters? Not much going on there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_body Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 The feedback here is enough to assume that other players are getting a lot of RP points...I have one char with almost 600 hrs w/ 20 RP points. I have another who I feel like I RP even more consistently with who has 2...which, by the OP, will make me ineligible for the combo I'm currently playing. I think my beef is with my own forecasted char issues. Namely in that EST play times don't tend to coincide with PST....where most players seem to be. There are times I can play during the 6-9 PST timezone that are awesome, but it's not consistent. I feel like this change is going to further alienate those of us who aren't able to consistently chime in during the prime login times. That's all - last of my $0.02 I'm in EST I and I can think of three others at least who are as well...I get decent play 6-11AM EST, and 4-12 EST, occassionally even spilling into 2AM EST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mmm Coffee Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 Well - yes, I think most of us know who the char you speak of is...but even going beyond that, I feel like you're one of those players who puts it out there (I believe you had a crazy Psi Merchants not too long ago). You see - I could NEVER, EVER play a combo like that to any measurable meaning of success. I could never play a combo that didn't involve PK for anything beyond the hours required getting to 50. Is that a bad thing? Based on the change, it could be. If, for instance, player char's were given the chance to view other player's RP points (or rank-based-on-RP-points...however it ends up being) All I'm saying is there is REALLY a chance for exploitation here based solely on some people's ability to pull awesome RP out of their proverbial arse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_body Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 PK CAN be RP, and should be. The motives just have to be right. The CHARACTER has to be the one doing the attacking, and for a personal reason of the char. Just make them synergized... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mmm Coffee Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 I'm with you P_Body - I'm sure you can probably divulge who I play based on times alone. However, just a simple point-in-case, given the recent January Polls - you voted for another class in favor of me yet there's no possible way that char has the history your's and mine have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enethier Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 I don't hide it. For any that are confused: I play Laelanis. Think I've said that before, but I don't remember. I did have a lesbian Psi Merchant back in late '11 thru early '12. But imo that was such a bad RP. But I learned from it, so that's something at least. That's something for another time, though. What I am saying is that RP is not pulled out of a proverbial arse. It's an investment. What this change has done is created a return for that investment. I don't see many ways of it really being exploited, and if it does happen, I don't see it done in a way that is a huge detriment to the game. If you are worried about losing a competitive edge against those that are very good at RP, I suggest taking a similar approach to a character. Ask "Why?" a lot in regards to your character. Some of the answers may surprise you. And every time you ask that question, you end up giving yourself another avenue to RP through. It doesn't have to be anything grandiose or globally-encompassing. Even the smallest, most seemingly insignificant details can help paint a much larger picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mya Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 Nobility now requires a minimum of 20 rp points. If you fall beneath, you lose the flag. Royalty now requires a minimum of 40 rp points. If you fall beneath, you lose the flag. Any qclass/race now requires a minimum of 20 rp points. Restrings require a minimum of 5 rp points. Cabal T now requires a minimum of 5 rp points. Cabal Elders now require a minimum of 20 rp points. Cabal Leaders now require a minimum of 30 rp points. This will be applied for new apps and promotions, and - after a grace period - also for existing chars. 1) Does this means that there is a RP 'decay' ? If so, how much 'decay can we expect per month? 2) Do Trusted, Elder or Leader position also lose their flag if they fall bellow the stated RP level? I don't think this part was clear. 3) Can we please allow players to give at least 1 RP point, with a big cool down. How many times I have witnessed someone RP something very interesting, at non peak times, and I wished there was some way I could make that character be rewarded by it. So 1 RP point with a cooldown of 1 RL day would be great. Perhaps if the staff doesn't trust the OOC rings, make this only available to cabaled characters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enethier Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 Mya, all of that was covered. You lose RP points for breaking RP. There's a discussion with the char and the imms that has been said will occur if the imms feel the character is falling behind what is expected. Logs can be posted to prayer, kept there, and the character will get RP points for them. There is no period of time in which it is impossible to get RP points for good RP. A daily +1 RP defeats the entire purpose of RP points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Implementor Volgathras Posted February 1, 2014 Implementor Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 There is no RP decay. It can be lost, or spent. If a player falls below the required amount of RP points they will be warned. If they continue not to met expectations they will lose their station/qrace. Specifically because of RP rings we've opted, for the moment, not to allow RP points to be given out by players. You can make mention to an imm or post a log if you think a person deserves recognition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f0xx Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 The only thing that bothers me here, is that immortals' job will become much more serious having to read so many logs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Implementor Volgathras Posted February 1, 2014 Implementor Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 We're admins of a mud, if we're not reading it's a disgrace . That said things may slip through the cracks more often, so please do bump to remind us. Also speaking personally, and not for other members of staff necessarily you can PM me reminders, questions etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Implementor Volgathras Posted February 1, 2014 Implementor Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 Let me add to the above that pointless PMs will be met with the most disgusting medical pictures google images can deliver. I'm not kidding, you have been warned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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