mya Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 As you know you can use your RP points to raise a stat that is bellow maximum. The actual value is 50 RP points, although the first indicated value was 20 rp.I understand that things change, not complaining about that. But I feel that 20 points is a better cost for this service. It was the value I was going to propose before even checking the original price.50 RP points is a huge investment. So huge that I would rather join a cabal, grind the CP's to fix the stats and then cabal leave than spend RP points on it. I think that 20 RP points would be a much fairer price for this service, since 50 RP takes a long long time to achieve. If I fix 3 stat points, I could instead us the RP to buy an edge. Some of which are interesting for non PKer as they deal with thieves and regen and gold. The RP points could be a great tool for characters that wish to remain uncabaled without losing much when compared with Cabaled players. For example the bless item cost of 15 RP is just right and fair.But the service to bind for a time is to step. It's equal to the level of the item, but for that price I'm better off restringing the L50 item and then asking for a ownership for 90RP points, still lower than two bindings of the same item. Player:custom title for player - 60 rpone stat raised by 1 point - 20 rpskill of player's choice + 1 % - 5 rpcabal skill + 1 % - 10 rp1 learning session (languages) - 5 rplocate / bind / reinforce - 2 / 10 / 15 I'm no fodder - journeyman like additional buff , only if you have a vastly negative pk record, only for level 50s - 30 rpYou can re-select your selectable warrior mastery (as a warrior) - 30 rp5 lives back - 50 rp Study Theatre[Exits: north](White Aura) A hooded woman stands before the class, giving a lecture.> serviceThe Mentor says 'I offer following services.'service <type> <target>: identify <item> : Identify object bless <item> : Bless an item bind <item> : Bind an owner to item reinforce <item> : Make an item resistant to destruction locate <item> : Locate a item in the lands teach <skill/spell>: Teach and lecture on use of skills train <stat> : Provide physical and mental trainingUse: "service <type> cost" for detalied costs.> service train costRaises a single statistic, 50 rp points per attempt. > service bind costBinds the item to you, as its owner for 20 days.Cost is equal to level of item. The Tabulary is able to change the names of your favorite items. Inexchange for experiences, your items can be customized to yourspecifications; /\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \(-) Name - what you call the item (when using, wearing, storing the item, etc.)(-) Short - the description of the item seen in your inventory or equipment(-) Long - the description of the item viewed when left in the open, on the floor Each field costs 30 rp, adding color to a field doubles the cost to 60 rp.To learn how to add color to a field, type read color./\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \ Items:religion necklaces - 100rprestrung item - 30 rprestrung item oownered - 60 rp - if item = rare 55 rp, only doable for a max of 2 rares, second rare costs 65 rprestrung item oownered with one color - 50 rp (it is presently 60 rp as we look at this) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f0xx Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 There are a lot of things in the bazaar that need to be looked at and made more to be cleared.It needs to be better defined which items can be made owner only (and why), also the whole process of renaming, coloring and ownering...Prices of certain services need to be tweaked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magick Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 50 RP points is a huge investment. So huge that I would rather join a cabal, grind the CP's to fix the stats and then cabal leave than spend RP points on it. I think that 20 RP points would be a much fairer price for this service, since 50 RP takes a long long time to achieve. If I fix 3 stat points, I could instead us the RP to buy an edge. Some of which are interesting for non PKer as they deal with thieves and regen and gold. Huge investment? I turn your attention to this:... I've earned 25 points from RP logs over the last five days of playing (plus another 20 from my history check) ... I am really thrilled about this system, because it means I'll be getting all sorts of cool items/titles/stuffs just from finding people to roleplay with. Vinter might be on the high side of average, but I'm using her as an example of just how easy it is to get them if you make an effort. If you still think that 50 RP points is a huge investment, you're likely too focused on PK. Don't get me wrong, PK has its place, but don't complain about not having RP points if you don't bring your RP to the attention of the Imms. The alternative is that you're just too lazy to submit journals and logs and all that other good RP stuff, like me.Additionally, if you join a cabal just to grind CP's, buy ability boosts and cabal leave, I'm fairly certain that the more times you do that, the harder it will be for any of your future characters to enter any cabal. Now that being said, is 50 RP points for a stat boost too steep? Maybe. Would I change it? Not really. The alternative is for you to sit on a train or three instead of dropping them all into hit points so that you can do it for free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mya Posted November 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 Magick stop being bitter. If veteran players have a chance to get +80 hp they aren't going to skip that chance. This will not change until the trainers system is changed. And your threat of cabal blacklisting doesn't make any sense. As doesn't you calling me lazy. Getting 8x50 = 400 RP is incomparably harder than getting 4000 CPs. I think uncabaled characters who dedicate themselves to RP should have a realistic shot of achieving this same goal. With the added benefit that RP benefits us all, unlike some CP gathering methods.Vintervalpen might have gotten 25 RP points from logs in five days, but remember those five days were 87 hours censored.I think and prefer that the act of getting 100 RP points be somewhat difficult, in order to prevent RP inflation. I don't wish to see characters decked in edges just because they spammed the IMM's with RP logs. Just like happens with hunting groups. My point is that the good unique rewards should be hard, but the common stuff any cabal character gets should not be hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vintervalpen Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 Is there any helpfile around for all the edges an their costs? EDIT:Mya. I didn't submit my first rp log to the prayer forum the very same moment I made my character, so... no, that's far, far, far from 87 hours, and it's definitely far, far, far, far, far from 87 hours spent roleplaying. EDIT2:I don't really think it's very cool to have a copy of my score posted in a thread on the forums. I shared it with a few people in the chat when asking for advice on equipment, but this is a bit meh. EDIT3:When people say that it's possible to earn ~25 rp points or so per week from submitting rp logs/journals/whatever, and you're not managing that yourself, perhaps you should ask them for advice instead of instantly starting whining and complaining about how wrong they are. And even if you earn 10 or 15 rp points instead of 25 in a week, you'll still be upping your stats on a regular basis. Is 50 too much for an attribute increase? I have no idea, but you're not exactly making a compelling argument there, Mya. EDIT4:You don't want to see people rewarding for spamming imms with rp logs? What the heck is this, I don't even. What's the point of having the rp points system if people aren't going to use it? Why do you make it sound like a horrible thing that people are out there rp'ing with each other, when that in fact was the whole point of the system? Geesh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Forsaken Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 Magick stop being bitter. If veteran players have a chance to get +80 hp they aren't going to skip that chance.I don't take any overly exaggerated actions to increase my hp via trains/practices. Maybe I'm in the minority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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