mya Posted March 19, 2015 Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 (edited) Bards have lost all their spells. While I understand this move to non spell casting bards, I don't understand the lack of detect invis, or Locate object. Old bards were a very newbie friendly class.Detect invis, Free water, Water to wine for booze food, Hide, Kings feast to turn that mob intestine into a feast, Word of Recall, locate object, Frenzy. The new one is less, with the loss of Detect Invis, Locate Object, Word of recall and Identify. Detect Invis makes everyone life easier. Sure Veterans can just purchase pills en masse but, I think bards should have a way around it. Perhaps a song. Locate Object is a shame. It was usefull to locate Trees and Veins. And for locating items. Bards were extremely self reliant. But I guess we can get this one from the bazar of the Stars for 40 RPs. Word of Recall. Usefull for newbies. Not as critical, but now I miss it. Identify. Identify is covered by lore. But it took me a while to remember bards lore is special Anyhow, anyone ever figured what "Flight of the Condor" did?The only thing I could do with it was to move one room without a boat. Still can't find a use for it.Perhaps we could have it cast word of recall. Or zero hours flight. Also, it might be interesting to update the old Instrument in the Tales of Avalon to the new instrument weapon code. Old Spells.IdentifyLocate ObjectArmorMagic missileDetect InvisInvisibilityWord of recallCure seirous. Edited March 19, 2015 by mya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale Posted March 19, 2015 Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 Perhaps the reason why bards sucked is because they were a newbie friendly class. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naruthiron Posted March 19, 2015 Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 flight of the condor was a one room flight. It had very limited uses outside of narrow escapes and messing around places like Torilar's tree for fighting/chasing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Professor Posted March 19, 2015 Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 why not make the Flight of the Condor a limited duration flying mount? of course, this is all conjecture as I'm not sure at present if the song has been changed or not. they do seem less newbie friendly, which is quite alright. I actually think losing hide makes more of an impact than losing all their spells. have the marriage and serenade songs been made more useful? I always heard that serenade worked in conjunction with panhandle but I could be way off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evangelion Posted March 19, 2015 Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 Things and stuff. It also used to be that if you tried to PK a bard, Bryntryst would tear your arms off and beat you with the wet ends. These changes seem pretty interesting to me. Might have to try it out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magick Posted March 19, 2015 Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 Best. Quote. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mya Posted March 19, 2015 Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 It also used to be that if you tried to PK a bard, Bryntryst would tear your arms off and beat you with the wet ends. These changes seem pretty interesting to me. Might have to try it out! That was a long time ago, with the first ones. Second incarnation would rob you blind and ran giggling to hide. This third version its more likely they end up killing you for the attempt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fool_Hardy Posted March 19, 2015 Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 Awesome changes at first glance.Logged in today and saw 4 folks. 3 bards. Logged out quickly because I knew I would never see that again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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