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svs breath has been there for ages. I'm just recycling it - being some spells have in the past used it as a save vs. Some spells, and most songs will now use it as a save vs. 

 

It's really not that big of a change, considering svs vs spell has always encompassed all of the saves vs.

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I think it's a big change. In the past saving vs something was always a function of "saving vs spell" + "saving vs mal/aff/mental", since there isn't gear for saving vs breath, we can imagine that saving vs spell is now more powerful than saving vs something in particular since it will protect you from breath saves.

 

That is considering that you changed the save check function that only checked if it was a spell of maledictive or Afflictive nature, and if it wasn't it just assumed mental. I bet this is no longer the case.

 

 

PS: This are the only eq that I ever found with save vs breath:

 

Object 'humble scout's scout cloak' is type armor, material cloth.
Extra flags: dark.
Weight is 1, value is 10, level is 20.
Armor class is 7 pierce, 4 bash, 4 slash, and 0 vs. magic.
Affects savingbreath by -2.
Affects dex by 2.

 

And a shield in the vampire at the bottom of "Chapel"

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I just got this idea. If we got a new save type, why not have a new mage class paragon of this save type?

Afflictive - > Invokers

Maledictive -> Shamans

Mental -> Psi, Clerics

Restorative -> Healers, Clerics

 

Breath -> Kick-ass fire-breathing giant flying dragon with lances.
https://img0.etsystatic.com/054/0/10679740/il_340x270.735945490_64si.jpg

Or some sort of  Shapeshifter mage, that shapeshifts into Hydras and Dragons and stuff.

Should not be to complicated with Werebeast code stuff.

OR some sort of Wyrm Rider.

http://www.mrwallpaper.com/wallpapers/Dragon-Rider.jpg

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I think it's a big change. In the past saving vs something was always a function of "saving vs spell" + "saving vs mal/aff/mental", since there isn't gear for saving vs breath, we can imagine that saving vs spell is now more powerful than saving vs something in particular since it will protect you from breath saves.

This makes no sense Mya.

SVS has always been more powerful than save vs afflictive for example, since 1 svs = 1 aff + 1 mal + 1 mental save.

As already stated, SVS has always saved vs breath. Absolutely nothing has changed.

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What has changed F0xx is that now you need to bias your saves towards svs vs spell instead of just thinking about getting (vs spell + vs mal + vs aff + vs mental).

My armors tend to be a good balance of those four types. Because it's easy to get big vs a particular save than big vs spell.

Well new eq with saves vs breath will fix that when it appears.

 

I suspect this will slightly favor mages in the long run. As there are more saves type to cover, it's only natural that PC's will be lacking on particular type of save. While this will also affect mage armor (they to fight mages) they may have the luck of having a spell that targets that particular save.

 

I wonder what will happen to some spells? Will they be changed to saving vs breath? For example Paladin Flamestrike (afflictive)

Or weapons flamming effects, which save also on afflictive.

It would be interesting if we didn't no longer needed AFF saves to fight warriors, but Breath saves. :biggrin:

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I really don't get what the big deal is.  You know they are going to IMP in new gear with Breath saves.  It's not like they brought us a new type of spell with no way to save against it.  What would be the point?  

 

Mya, we will give you a few moments to get your panties out of the wad they are in.  (Yes I think he wears panties)

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