May Changes

[Erelei]

Sure is a good thing then, Atticus, that these logs were perused by yours truly on the prayer forum where they were submitted.

Just because you don't see the logs doesn't mean they don't exist - and assuming because you haven't seen them that a change isn't needed is ludicrous. If you want to change your lore, post on Prayer Forum, and I'll work on helping you out.

[Atticus]

The thing I hate about text,  is the fact it can be read and the reader can see malice in it. I meant no disrespect, and again this is only my opinion- hell if I looked over the logs I bet I couldn't make heads or tails over balance. 

I'm biased, I'll admit that- for any of you readers I'm Teptr, and sorry for those who haven't seen me around I've been busy as hell with getting ready for deployment.

The problem is I don't see in my experience as a shield warrior that warrants the nerfs,and again that could be me blinded by my bias and the fact I don't know what the staff knows.

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[Erelei]

1 hour ago, Atticus said:

The thing I hate about text,  is the fact it can be read and the reader can see malice in it. I meant no disrespect, and again this is only my opinion- hell if I looked over the logs I bet I couldn't make heads or tails over balance. 
Malice? I didn't see malice. All I saw was complaints (which are fine) but none of the complaints have any construction to them. At all. They're plain, unfortunate, remarks of disapproval. People want change. They get change. People want balance. They get balance. The IMM staff can't win, because it doesn't make everyone happy.

I'm biased, I'll admit that- for any of you readers I'm Teptr, and sorry for those who haven't seen me around I've been busy as hell with getting ready for deployment.
Yes, you're biased - but you're allowed to be bias. But you should also take into account that these changes are not done blindly, and they definitely come with merit and discussion, and a lot of review and study. 

The problem is I don't see in my experience as a shield warrior that warrants the nerfs,and again that could be me blinded by my bias and the fact I don't know what the staff knows.
That's understandable - but the fact is, and I mean no disrespect, you play a very deathful warrior. If you were more careful (like 98% of the other warriors) you'd die a lot less and would have garnered a lot more out of the shield lore. And you still can. It's still a very VIABLE selection.

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[Cephirus]

In regards to Gladiators changes, I do think Foxx raises a point. However, I disagree with that the cabal skills should not cost mana, they should however, if it is possible be a % of max mana. That way it would better take into account a giant races mana pool vs. a non-giants and I would think, allow for better balancing of the usage of those skills.

[Quicksilver]

The glad detect invis should work closer to how stance works in terms of cost.  Similar, not exactly the same.  A less severe version.

[kamikazi]

All in all, shield bash has had it's damage reduced (GREATLY), takes out attacks which it shouldn't if you ask me, since you already lose all attacks from offhand and bow...now you even lose the damage reduction from bashes while you're blind and you no longer block arrows.I mean...come on...zerkers stop all arrows with their rage and a warrior who specializes in shields can't...This is unnecessary. Shield bash actually needed a boost since last I played it...now it's even worse. You might as well remove it completely. Completely useless as a lore for a warrior.

[Anume]

Please submit logs. What we've seen in past logs that were submitted is a blinded and disarmed shield warrior not getting hit with melee attacks. And that was not what I'd call balanced.

If you think the lore is not worth it, submit logs and make suggestions.

[Trick]

The problem with submitting logs, is most people don't wanna roll a character just to show the strength or lack thereof of a warrior lore. It was my understanding this is what we had the test port for. Pew and Teptr are the only shield warriors I am aware of. Personally, I've had mixed experiences with shield warriors. I've had rounds where I can't land a single hit and I've also had rounds that land extremely well, this could be due to my race/class combo though.