Pinned Rare Counts

You got your character to pinn 3 days ago and you are already mad you are not decked....

Now I don't agree with what Nurrog is doing, but he is not doing anything illegal and calling him out like that is a douche move.

Never said he was doing anything illegal.

And for the 10000000th time, I do just fine with the current rare system. But there are countless of people who do not and I advocate for them because I believe there is a problem.

So stop trying to make this about me like you always do when it has never been about me or my character or my rares. I'm rocking a decent 40/40 HR/DR pre-cabal setup and doing just fine.  I love how you couldn't wait to point out you know who I play tho. Countless threads about this topic with countless people posting how they think there is an issue and offering suggestions...but you want to single me out. Really f0xx, your love obsession with me is getting old.

1 minute ago, egreir said:

And for the 10000000th time, I do just fine with the current rare system. But there are countless of people who do not and I advocate for them because I believe there is a problem.

We all know it's about you, and only about you. So stop trying to paint yourself as some carebear who cares so much about hardships of the playerbase.

And I don't know who you play (but now I have a pretty good idea), I just took a wild guess since your behaviour patters are always the same:

1. Roll a character

2. Go for qstuff (even though you just dumped one prematurely)

3. Get qstuff fast, even though you shouldn't.

4. Tag people like crazy.

5. Complain on the forum that you can't deck yourself as fast as you would like.

6. Claim it's not about you who you are worried about.

7. Whine about getting ganged and looted while claiming you don't mind it.

lol  points 2 and 3 might be debatable.  The ONE time I have EVER said ANYTHING about being ganged/looted was very recently. Go back and find any other time I've ever said anything about it.  

You're a funny guy, you and emp_newb must be twins or something.

Can you two clowns take this water fight to PMs?

f0xx is welcome to discuss anything he wants with me in private, but he knows his pettiness and his baseless rants against me won't hold up.  Instead he just likes to get under my skin in public because he knows I'm quick to snap on him and make an ass out of myself in the process :)  It hadn't dawned on me until just now...but I think he's just jealous lol

sigh

On 2016/8/9 at 0:31 PM, Zavero said:

I would like to see rares easier for a single person to attain. I understand some unique or really rare items being difficult and taking a party to get but there are a bunch of rare items I could never get alone. Since Mindflayer isn't playing I don't have a single friend to play with and there isn't enough folks interested to go find them at any given time.

As far as 1v1... I think in cabal warfare it should be fine to do 2v1. However, folks will cry.

Welcome back, by the way. I hope you find new friends. This community is a pride of mine, so I don't imagine it'll be hard.

Remember that when balancing encounters, we have to take in consideration how various classes might approach a challenge individually. Or, rather, we as designers can't - we simply can't make contingencies for every class. Experience is another factor. So we end up finding the most logical place in the bell curve between the decked experienced whip-master warrior, for instance, and the newbie assassin ninja, and aim for there in regards to difficulty.

On 2016/8/9 at 1:41 PM, tassinvegeta said:

What about the idea of placing flags on these Decked characters that makes it alright to gang them? Seeing as how I might be one of these characters, in my perspective I wouldn't mind the idea (especially if this is by choice) of allowing characters to gang me. In return these characters would have more reason to log in and try to win. In addition I could receive incentives in some way when I am outnumbered?

Some examples off the top of my head are;

Cabal guardian is stronger

Cabal services/equipment is cheaper

Greater chance of Imm given rewards depending on the success of the character after said gangs

Greater authority over rp plots and ig changes

Faster/easier promotions

I like this. Make it mandatory, where if a character reaches a certain KD ratio or something, they are auto-flagged as something that sounds cool - enemy of the state for instance - or a title. This will simply exempt this person from ganging restrictions.

Fighting solo against numbers is not fun, and we recognize that people who are dominating feel an incredible sense of accomplish that this might dull (though imagine the sense of accomplishment in taking out three punks all on your lonesome, you monster you). It feels like a punishment, which is unfair.

We would need to have breaking through to this level of bad-assery more than just a badge of honor. Increased CP gain for a start maybe. There will always be unquantifiable benefits like more imm interaction (because someone that strong absolutely gets a lot of attention, and can spread a message), a faster track to promotion (simply because they are more effective at their jobs - but keep in mind, as Anume mentioned, that RP is an integral part), plus others that you mentioned. We'd have to brainstorm over what other nice extras we could add that made this an accomplish with increased difficulty instead of a punishment for doing well.

@Vaerick brings me back to rares. I share a lot of his concerns, and I think there's a silent few here who share them. When we began this discussion on the imm forums I was quite excited, because I think PK in general needs to be reworked now. We took RP and we ran with it, and now we have a stronger RP base than I feel we ever had. Everyone - not just the experts - are getting in there and are happy to participate.

PK is a different beast. In RP, there is rarely any 'losing'. And if you do, you lose nothing but a power position over someone else and your pride. PK is high-stakes, because your lose is reflected in the hours it takes to get back to where you were. It reflects in the inferior position you find yourself to your enemy emotionally/in RP. The wins are stupendous because they're the opposite of that. You get everything!

It's my opinion - and you know what they say about opinions - that losses are still too much for an aging playerbase. Many of the steps we've taken are to alleviate that. I can't offer any solid conclusions except to say that the risk versus reward for players at my skill level (read as: none. None skill level) isn't worth it. I have and continue to avoid PK because the result is likely a net loss, and one my restrictions make recovering from difficult. I think we need to consider the costs at all ranges, but especially for the weaker PKers because the discussion of PK is happening among those who are at least competent enough to have valid opinions, and the interest to express them.

As an IMP I will take that as a guiding principle as we discuss changes to the system. However, I am among those without the skill to have a valid opinion so I'll defer to experience - we just need to have all parties represented and considered.

13 minutes ago, Volgathras said:

Welcome back, by the way. I hope you find new friends. This community is a pride of mine, so I don't imagine it'll be hard.

Remember that when balancing encounters, we have to take in consideration how various classes might approach a challenge individually. Or, rather, we as designers can't - we simply can't make contingencies for every class. Experience is another factor. So we end up finding the most logical place in the bell curve between the decked experienced whip-master warrior, for instance, and the newbie assassin ninja, and aim for there in regards to difficulty.

I'll be your friend but I don't know where anything is that has been put into the game in the last 5 years so I don't know how much help I'll be. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

haha. You're too kind.