egreir Posted August 24, 2016 Report Share Posted August 24, 2016 Can we have an updated list of what these are? I know they've been changed and adjusted over the years. How long is the wait to apply for a Crusader vs a Lich, or Avatar, or Vamp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyzarius Posted August 24, 2016 Report Share Posted August 24, 2016 do a search in the changes tracker, I believe they are in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f0xx Posted August 24, 2016 Report Share Posted August 24, 2016 20 hours I think iirc. Dunno if those are score hours or real ones though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aulian Posted August 24, 2016 Report Share Posted August 24, 2016 Whats the difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egreir Posted August 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2016 Lvl 30 req vs lvl 50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trick Posted August 24, 2016 Report Share Posted August 24, 2016 People are deleting Qraces/classes left and right. I wouldn't be surprised if people have to wait a little longer than normal for something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magick Posted August 24, 2016 Report Share Posted August 24, 2016 http://theforsakenlands.com/community/index.php?/changes/leap-year-changes-r26/ Those hours are hours played in game (score sheet). Power ranking to 30 in 3 hours and logging out for 24 hours won't cut it. If memory serves, it physically won't let you send the application, but it's been a while since I've been under the time limit and things might have been changed in that department. That's not counting Roleplaying Point requirements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egreir Posted August 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2016 22 minutes ago, Trick said: People are deleting Qraces/classes left and right. I wouldn't be surprised if people have to wait a little longer than normal for something. Left and right? lol name 3 that have deleted in the last month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_nightmare Posted August 24, 2016 Report Share Posted August 24, 2016 25 minutes ago, Trick said: People are deleting Qraces/classes left and right. I wouldn't be surprised if people have to wait a little longer than normal for something. I think its up to the person behind the character. The fact that you are giving him something that he/she wants to play, doesn't mean that he/she should marry it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyzarius Posted August 24, 2016 Report Share Posted August 24, 2016 there was a gap where we only had avatars and crusaders but we now have what....1 crus, 1 demon, 1 undead, 2 psi, 2 avatar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Implementor Erelei Posted August 24, 2016 Implementor Report Share Posted August 24, 2016 People delete characters too fast. I've had two avatars, a demon, and one psionicist delete within 1 month of getting their qrace/class. And this was after the requirements were updated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_nightmare Posted August 24, 2016 Report Share Posted August 24, 2016 2 minutes ago, Erelei said: People delete characters too fast. I've had two avatars, a demon, and one psionicist delete within 1 month of getting their qrace/class. And this was after the requirements were updated. Okay but what is the big deal about it? They delete because they dont have what to do. Honestly when I log in 90% of the time I spam where and who. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Implementor Erelei Posted August 24, 2016 Implementor Report Share Posted August 24, 2016 Because my time is pretty much wasted interacting with said character, setting up continued RP, and including them in the future as the IMM who approved them (depending on the race/class approved). The other IMMs don't like wasting the time either. It's a lot of work. Does this not make sense to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyzarius Posted August 24, 2016 Report Share Posted August 24, 2016 Just now, the_nightmare said: Okay but what is the big deal about it? They delete because they dont have what to do. Honestly when I log in 90% of the time I spam where and who. I would say the big deal is the imms spending the time approving the app. Which includes time observing them for RP etc. The big thing though in my mind is that Imms have possibly told someone else they CANT have it because player Y was first to the slot. Then player Y just deletes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_nightmare Posted August 24, 2016 Report Share Posted August 24, 2016 Then someone else should watch over them and approve them. Someone with bigger time gap , simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manual Labour Posted August 24, 2016 Report Share Posted August 24, 2016 1 hour ago, Aulian said: Whats the difference? every world shift doubles your current in game time. so for example: a character has 10 hours played in their score sheet and they have been logged in for 2 hours, if the world shifts it will add 2 hours to their total, so they would jump to 12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trick Posted August 24, 2016 Report Share Posted August 24, 2016 22 minutes ago, the_nightmare said: Okay but what is the big deal about it? They delete because they dont have what to do. Honestly when I log in 90% of the time I spam where and who. Who's fault is that? If I don't want to, I won't spam that. There are always people on to interact with, journals/notes to send, new RP avenues to create, etc. Just because you don't take advantage of everything the game offers doesn't mean others don't. Like Erelei said, people deleting a character fast is frustrating not only for the IMMs, but for players. I have personally tried to involve several players in quite a few things only to have them delete and it totally stops the flow of whatever I am trying to push/do. If you don't want to invest time in your character, why should I invest my time in your character? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trick Posted August 24, 2016 Report Share Posted August 24, 2016 I think Terrokant is a perfect example. You deleted a demon DK that IMMs and players had devoted time into. Do you think that you deserve the opportunity to get another Q-Whatever after you just deleted one 6 days ago? If I were an IMM, I would make you wait a long ass time. Month minimum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyzarius Posted August 24, 2016 Report Share Posted August 24, 2016 24 minutes ago, the_nightmare said: Then someone else should watch over them and approve them. Someone with bigger time gap , simple as that. you're going to have to elaborate here...this makes no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egreir Posted August 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2016 6 minutes ago, Trick said: I think Terrokant is a perfect example. You deleted a demon DK that IMMs and players had devoted time into. Do you think that you deserve the opportunity to get another Q-Whatever after you just deleted one 6 days ago? If I were an IMM, I would make you wait a long ass time. Month minimum. Exactly why I called you out and asked you to name 3...because I knew you were directing this at me, not the general pbase. Instead of just saying what you meant, you made some disguised poke at me insinuating I should be punished for letting go of Terrokant. That's the IMMs choice to make and not for you to cast stones at. I left because of certain reasons and then they got changed. I decided NOT to bring the char back since I posted identity and I don't like people who do that and come back, so I'm not doing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trick Posted August 24, 2016 Report Share Posted August 24, 2016 Terrokant, Xular, and that psi. I can't remember his name. Too short lived. Disguised poke? I'm blatantly honest. You don't deserve anything nor does anyone else that deletes a Q-Whatever after 6 days of having it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tassinvegeta Posted August 24, 2016 Report Share Posted August 24, 2016 15 minutes ago, egreir said: I left because of certain reasons and then they got changed. I decided NOT to bring the char back since I posted identity and I don't like people who do that and come back, so I'm not doing that. Now you're disguise flaming me? What did I ever do to you lol. But in seriousness is it really worth not playing a qclass/race you invested so much time in? In both of our situations things were changed. I mean I know I may have to deal with some ooc now but to let go and give up without a strong reason that's no longer valid is just not my style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mya Posted August 24, 2016 Report Share Posted August 24, 2016 A shame we don't have a way to know how many Qthings exists. You create a character to apply for X, and suddenly lots of X and a bazillion X applicants pop up. You can bet all those Elf warriors and paladins you see are Sadders applicants. I wonder how hard would be to code a command to search the last 3 months of loged in Pfiles and print a report of n Q-things and applicants. Something like: --------------------------- >Questroll Vampire Actives: 3 Messalanta Martineus ValadarVampire Applicants: 5 noobVamp Dakul PrincessPumpkin Vladd Igor Lich Actives: 0Lich Applicants: 1 badToTheBone -------------------------------- But withhold the players names when it's not a immortal typing the command. And having the command cost something like 50% of your HP and 1 full tick of lag, to prevent someone spaming it, After all checking Pfiles must tax heavily the CPU. Now that I think of it, we could also have one of those for Cabal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egreir Posted August 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2016 3 minutes ago, tassinvegeta said: Now you're disguise flaming me? What did I ever do to you lol. But in seriousness is it really worth not playing a qclass/race you invested so much time in? In both of our situations things were changed. I mean I know I may have to deal with some ooc now but to let go and give up without a strong reason that's no longer valid is just not my style. Wasn't directing it at you directly, there's been plenty of people in the last few years who post about a character leaving/deleting and then end up coming back. Used to be a rule I thought, once you posted, it was imm-deleted. I think once you say it's done, it should be done, just my personal opinion. Nothing is stopping me from playing Terrokant except my desire to remain true to my beliefs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tassinvegeta Posted August 24, 2016 Report Share Posted August 24, 2016 I understand your viewpoint but care to explain why? Just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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