Q-Thing Hour Requirements

[egreir]

Well for one I think the ooc influence is part of it, once certain people see certain people are playing certain characters, they're prone to act differently.

Also I just think that once you've announced you're done, for whatever reason, good or bad, that should be that. You shouldn't be able to come say you're done then go back like what you did, didn't happen.

Lastly I just think it's poor sportsmanship. This is a competitive game, no matter who wants to disagree or argue, this is a competitive game and it's that competitive PK and hunt for glory that keeps so many of us coming back.  If you forfeit in a sports tournament, you don't get to come back.

[mya]

Then go play. Most of us prefer for you to play than you not.

It's mostly looking like a goodies party, some high powered active evils would be a nice addiction to it.

A shame you revealed yourself. Still, just live and learn.

 

 

 

[egreir]

I appreciate that, but a hypocrite is something I'm not. I believe those things I said.  I forfeited Terrokant because of what I felt were unjust accusations/threats being made to me due to rules that subsequently were changed. An argument could be made that I overreacted, or whatever. But it's done and I've moved on to another couple projects/ideas.

[FatMike]

I stopped playing an avatar cause I got picked up to go back to the sandbox for another year. Thankfully my old heart wouldn't let them take me and I'm back home playing again(not as much as I'd like but playing again). I wouldn't want to bring him back for any reason but I also hope getting rid of him for said reason wouldn't be held against me if I wanted to apply for another q-thingy. 

That being said, if it's a rule rather than an exception that a person deletes/stops playing qraces after a short period of time I would expect it to be harder for them to get another simply because of the time the IMMs have to devote to giving them out in the first place. 

[egreir]

2 minutes ago, FatMike said:

I stopped playing an avatar cause I got picked up to go back to the sandbox for another year. Thankfully my old heart wouldn't let them take me and I'm back home playing again(not as much as I'd like but playing again). I wouldn't want to bring him back for any reason but I also hope getting rid of him for said reason wouldn't be held against me if I wanted to apply for another q-thingy. 

That being said, if it's a rule rather than an exception that a person deletes/stops playing qraces after a short period of time I would expect it to be harder for them to get another simply because of the time the IMMs have to devote to giving them out in the first place. 

semper fi  guess you dodged that one eh? how many tours did yuo end up with

[Trick]

Real life reasons wouldn't be held against you. That's something out of your control. Terrokant was deleted because he was treated like a ganger for ganging. Just as I said in the PK-restriction threads, I am all for ganging. If the only way you can kill someone is to gang them, then by all means. But don't gang people that don't deserve it. 

But, if you gang then you should expect to be treated like someone that gangs. Plain and simple. This means you don't get the luxury of whining or complaining about being ganged, tagged, or whatever. You get what you give. Now, will characters react differently to a character that gangs you? More than likely. Why? Because you ganged them, lol. If you gang my main character, then I probably won't have a whole lot of sympathy if something unfortunate happens to you. 

Reputations for characters are just as fickle as they are for people in the real world. If you act a certain way, expect to be treated a certain way. 

[egreir]

I never ganged anyone on Terrokant.

[FatMike]

11 minutes ago, egreir said:

semper fi  guess you dodged that one eh? how many tours did yuo end up with

Twice. Wasn't supposed to go this time but was doing white cell support for my battalion down at Ft Bliss when they had people get sent home so I was voluntold. The ol ticker has some clogs around it so they said go home old man, thank you have a nice day.

[Erelei]

54 minutes ago, mya said:

A shame we don't have a way to know how many Qthings exists. You create a character to apply for X, and suddenly lots of X and a bazillion X applicants pop up.

You can bet all those Elf warriors and paladins you see are Sadders applicants.

I wonder how hard would be to code a command to search the last 3 months of loged in Pfiles and print a report of n Q-things and applicants. Something like:

---------------------------
>Questroll

Vampire Actives: 3
Messalanta
Martineus
Valadar
Vampire Applicants: 5
noobVamp
Dakul
PrincessPumpkin
Vladd
Igor

Lich Actives: 0
Lich Applicants: 1
badToTheBone
--------------------------------
 

But withhold the players names when it's not a immortal typing the command. And having the command cost something like 50% of your HP and 1 full tick of lag, to prevent someone spaming it, After all checking Pfiles must tax heavily the CPU.

Now that I think of it, we could also have one of those for Cabal.

lol

Way ahead of you mya. I coded a command like this ages ago.

FWIW, these are the current active qraces (logged in the last 30 days)
Demons: 2
Vampires: 1
Undead: 1
Lich: 1
Crusader:  3
Avatar: 2
Psionicist: 2
Tattoos: 4 (We don't keep up with activity here)
 

[Trick]

1 hour ago, egreir said:

I never ganged anyone on Terrokant.

Fact is you suck. You suck and I hope you have an extremely wonderful life and find the love of your life and you two grow old and die together. So there. #suckit #rekt #killwithkindess

[egreir]

1 minute ago, Trick said:

Fact is you suck. You suck and I hope you have an extremely wonderful life and find the love of your life and you two grow old and die together. So there. #suckit #rekt #killwithkindess

You know you're the only one for me.

[mya]

Yes, it's nice for the imms, but if you guys don't tell, we don't know. Perhaps if the mud, exported this info somehow at reboot, and wrote it to a file/mem, and the players had a way to check. Also some others statistics might be interesting, like from the active players the % of goods/evils/neutrals and another with a % of active players with trance skill (mages vs meeles).

[Trick]

I'm not sure how I feel about restricting the number of things. Part of me likes it because it means its a rare or coveted thing, but the other part of me feels like why stifle it? If the players end up creating an unintentional Era of Undead and we're swarmed with undead, lich, vamps then whats the problem? Denying an aspect of RP is a negative, in my opinion.(Except if you don't deserve anything)

Its insanely annoying to see 5 Crusaders. I hate it.( I blame the Corimak crap for this. ) So, I get that, but demons, undead, lich, vampires? Ehh.. Just make it so that a cabal can only maintain one at a time. That way Knight can't have 3 Crusaders or Nexus have 3 vamps, etc. I dunno, storming of the brain. 

 

[Zavero]

Semper Fi? If he's hanging out at Ft Bliss I doubt he's a Marine. Maybe I'm wrong. Anyhow, you sound like you're just as stubborn as always Zrothrum. Just play the damn demon that you spent hours getting. No one but who cares that they know what you play. Not to mention as much as there are networks of friends that play this game anyone who cared already knew.

[Trick]

What's funny about it.. Most people knew it was him anyway. Either play style or from him messing up a shout out.. So.. who cares?

[Erelei]

Don't think anyone else has tried to get a qrace/class. A few failed their quests, unfortunately, but that's about it. Why do you think we're actively limiting them? It's very likely that anyone can be any qclass/race right now with how infrequent the current ones are (minus except maybe psions, and we rarely limit them anyway)

[Trick]

Hypothetically. 

[FatMike]

Not a Marine, sailor/soldier for 19 years next month. 

 

@Erelei I'll submit that drow psi app next time I'm online. ?

[Tantangel]

8 hours ago, Erelei said:

Because my time is pretty much wasted interacting with said character, setting up continued RP, and including them in the future as the IMM who approved them (depending on the race/class approved). The other IMMs don't like wasting the time either. It's a lot of work. Does this not make sense to you?

I think it really depends on the person who is playing them. When I get back from a break, I usually end up playing 2-3 characters  to 50 before I finally try to go for a qclass/qrace. I don't necessarily agree that they should be required to have at least 1 PK to their name before doing so, because not everyone playing the character would consider it a necessity. Just because you're a character going for Vampire doesn't mean you should PK, perhaps they merely drink the victim over the course of their lifetime so it's a constant source of food. Therefore no PK at all, but enough RP to pull it off. If I'm applying at 50 for one to revert, I hate having to wait a long period of time to get approved because at 50 I get bored way too quickly to wait a week or more and that usually results in a new character because I'd rather train at least than wait hours just to finally get what I want as a reverted class. But that's just me.

[Kyzarius]

Remort classes do take the longest.  Though they are more rewarding.  I honestly think vamp should be remort.  

 

[Pali]

6 hours ago, Kyzarius said:

I honestly think vamp should be remort.  

 

Agreed.

[Aulian]

13 hours ago, Kyzarius said:

Remort classes do take the longest.  Though they are more rewarding.  I honestly think vamp should be remort.  

 

And ogre rangers.

[Trick]

1 hour ago, Aulian said:

And ogre rangers.

I'm not sure if ogre rangers should be allowed, lol. 

[egreir]

19 hours ago, Zavero said:

Semper Fi? If he's hanging out at Ft Bliss I doubt he's a Marine. Maybe I'm wrong. Anyhow, you sound like you're just as stubborn as always Zrothrum. Just play the damn demon that you spent hours getting. No one but who cares that they know what you play. Not to mention as much as there are networks of friends that play this game anyone who cared already knew.

He didn't mention Ft. Bliss until after I gave the greeting....so I don't know what point you're making? Hooah, semper fi, whatever man lol    You call it stubborn, I call it integrity.  If I don't agree with something, I'm not going to be the one to do it.

[Zavero]

It isn't the same but I understand what you are trying to say.  I cannot stop you from saying Semper Fi to a army guy but I personally find it offensive as a Marine. 

Not really a big deal though so no worries.