f0xx Posted August 30, 2016 Report Share Posted August 30, 2016 I can't seem to find some changes that I remember reading some time ago. I am mostly looking for the changes to weapon cleave and hellstream/ice storm that damage/break EQ... can't find them. Can anyone help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloth Posted August 30, 2016 Report Share Posted August 30, 2016 September 2013. It looks like the detailed post was deleted as people revealed hidden info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f0xx Posted August 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2016 Why not delete just the posts revealing the info and leave the main post there.... it's a change after all. Getting it deleted because posts AFTER it reveal un-allowed info is just silly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloth Posted August 30, 2016 Report Share Posted August 30, 2016 Wasn't an immortal at the time, couldn't tell you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f0xx Posted August 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2016 That was a rhetorical question meant to voice my frustration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f0xx Posted September 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2016 So can we actually get the changelog back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Implementor Erelei Posted September 2, 2016 Implementor Report Share Posted September 2, 2016 Not sure why it matters, but here's what was posted on IMM only for our changes after discussion. I don't know where the change log went. I can't find it either. This happened Dec 27, 2013. Berserkers now have a very small chance, when checking to see if a weapon is burnproof, to break it instead of destroying it. In breaking it, it goes to your opponents inventory, and can't be re-wielded until it has been repaired. It only required 1 repair by the repair guru for it to be re-wieldable (1 repair also does 100% repairing). This I'm sure can aid the berserker class along a little bit without absolutely breaking the function. A very consistent berserker will probably be the only one who can break shields, since it actually checks the chance 2 different times before allowing a burnproof item to be broken. The chance function is a large one as it is, so I think it's balanced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f0xx Posted September 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2016 You don't know why change logs matter? To me it matters because I saw the other day an invoker break something with a hellstream, so I decided to check the change, since I remember vaguely that they were made to not be able to break stuff? Sadly, I couldn't hence the change log is lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trick Posted September 2, 2016 Report Share Posted September 2, 2016 It matters to him. That's all that needs to be said. The log was posted, then lost1. He wanted to see it, so he politely asked if anyone can help and you reply with a snide, " Not sure why it matters, but.. " ? That's rude, man. I think you need to look at the tone you convey in your posts because the MAJORITY of your posts are extremely condescending in nature and off-putting. This isn't a slight or an attack, just an observation. EDIT1: Removed changed to lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Implementor Erelei Posted September 2, 2016 Implementor Report Share Posted September 2, 2016 The change log, my friend, was lost somehow during the transition from one forum to the other. The Invoker change was discussed Oct 10 2013 - again, change log no where to be found. I won't post the details of what we discussed here, unfortunately, it delved into a lot of detail of how it worked. Just know that Invokers have a chance to break weapons entirely that are burnproof with ice storm, and shatter them when they're not burnproofed. Hellstream corrodes equipment now. Held items, like staves, etc, shatter no matter what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Implementor Erelei Posted September 2, 2016 Implementor Report Share Posted September 2, 2016 IT WAS NOT REMOVED. For the LAST time. Christ people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zavero Posted September 2, 2016 Report Share Posted September 2, 2016 With as much as folks ask for and then argue about constantly on this forum I would prob be short with folks as well. Doesn't make it right but think about the time investment someone makes doing coding, only to be constantly questioned about little things. I'm not sure I would even take the time to respond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f0xx Posted September 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2016 5 minutes ago, Erelei said: IT WAS NOT REMOVED. For the LAST time. Christ people. On 30/08/2016 at 8:23 PM, Lloth said: It looks like the detailed post was deleted as people revealed hidden info. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Implementor Erelei Posted September 2, 2016 Implementor Report Share Posted September 2, 2016 @Lloth is right, that there was a post that was hidden (but it was the discussion of said change). Regardless, it is in the Change Log that I created specifically for you guys. It was not deleted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotspring monkey Posted September 2, 2016 Report Share Posted September 2, 2016 -Zoichan, Anonymous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloth Posted September 2, 2016 Report Share Posted September 2, 2016 Bro, F0xx.... F0xx, bro. I told you I wasn't an immortal then. Why put that speculative statement forward to contend with the absolute reason put forward by somebody that's been an implementor longer than most modern immortals in recent history have even been on staff? The topic was lost, which would appear to me the same as it would if it was deleted. My speculation came from a forum search alluding to a deleted topic for the reason mentioned. When Erelei says "this happened" about something in his domain... It happened. Same as Anume or Volgathras for theirs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f0xx Posted September 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2016 Quote Why put that speculative statement forward to contend with the absolute reason put forward by somebody that's been an implementor longer than most modern immortals in recent history have even been on staff? What the hell is this even supposed to mean? I ask where is the change? You come and say it is deleted. I ask why is it deleted. Erelei comes and gets annoyed for people saying it is deleted.... I am getting pretty tired of this. I just want a fucking change log of the change. Is this something special I am wanting? If you weren't an immortal back then, then why are you even sticking your nose in this at all? You could have simply ignored it, or notified someone who actually knows what is happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatMike Posted September 2, 2016 Report Share Posted September 2, 2016 15 minutes ago, f0xx said: What the hell is this even supposed to mean? I ask where is the change? You come and say it is deleted. I ask why is it deleted. Erelei comes and gets annoyed for people saying it is deleted.... I am getting pretty tired of this. I just want a fucking change log of the change. Is this something special I am wanting? If you weren't an immortal back then, then why are you even sticking your nose in this at all? You could have simply ignored it, or notified someone who actually knows what is happening. ffs chill out please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambroas Posted September 3, 2016 Report Share Posted September 3, 2016 I think his issue is because one IMM says the detailed post was deleted, he asks for the log back, Trick says the log was removed and this was the first and only time it was stated the Log itself was deleted and Erelei acted as if 10 people had been saying it. I think everyone is overreacting here and just lock this if it continues. Lloth wasn't wrong because they gave the info they had which was a detailed post was deleted, never said anything about the log itself. Erelei was a bit rude and did jump the gun on the LAST TIME comment, and Fox was rude for saying Lloth shouldn't stick their nose in. An IMM was trying to be helpful and gave all the info they had, that kinda reply will stop them from doing it for you again. Everyone cool off, someone please get this man a log before he has a stroke and make better of use of your time like getting in game to take me to Gear and Winter! (IMM gifts always appreciated as well) -Signed Ambroas, the voice of reason and only one right in this damn thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Implementor Erelei Posted September 3, 2016 Implementor Report Share Posted September 3, 2016 You can't see prayer posts. So no. Not the first time. I have other (cool) projects I'm doing and this kept popping up. Frustrating as hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muddmann Posted September 3, 2016 Report Share Posted September 3, 2016 Don't let um keep you down Erelei, you do good work and it's all for free.. we all thank you no matter how we decide to express it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambroas Posted September 4, 2016 Report Share Posted September 4, 2016 5 hours ago, Erelei said: You can't see prayer posts. So no. Not the first time. I have other (cool) projects I'm doing and this kept popping up. Frustrating as hell. I'm praying it's a Healer revamp! But I'd probably be the only one who sees that as cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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