Goodbye for good.

[kamikazi]

Okay...not that anyone cares, but I am leaving for good. I have asked the Imms to deny all my characters and permban me, so that I don't get drawn back by the addiction. I will not go into details, but the quality of the people around here has fallen hard. Skill might have risen, but so has cheating, abusing and idiocy. It is quite funny that it is allowed and tolerated, but I guess the Imms know what they are doing. I had fun before...not so much as of late, exactly because certain people are allowed to act like they are the owners of the MUD and not the Imms. This is no longer a place where you can have fun, but a place where you get frustrated, because of some idiot's actions. Seriously...I'd rather stay away, than sink to their level. (I'm sure the scumbags will know I mean them)

Anyway...I hope you all live healthy and long. Goodbye.

[Trick]

Who did you play..?

[Zavero]

Didn't you say you were done when you deleted your fire giant? If you really want to quit than just quit and stop making some big drama about it. Perhaps you should calm down and think about it before posting.

[kamikazi]

I have though about it and I said I am taking a break when I was playing my fire giant. This time I'm leaving for good and only thought I should say goodbye. Not that I care of your opinion, cause I'm pretty sure you're one of those scumbags I mentioned earlier. I played Memnon.

[kamikazi]

Now please do not post on my thread anymore and let the people who would like to say goodbye to me, say goodbye.

[f0xx]

[egreir]

Farewell, hope you come back around.  

[vaelinn]

Don't think I have ever interacted with you much that I know of. Sorry to see you are leaving on a frustrating note. Enjoy whatever you get around to next, be it here or elsewhere.

[Zavero]

No, I'm not one of the scumbags that cheated you. I have only had one encounter with you in game and you destroyed me (I was moderate ogre berserker that attacked you first while being two levels under you). I'm not trying to be an ass to you. I was merely suggesting you take a different route to vent. You will do as you will. Good luck.

[Trick]

I am sad to see any players go, honestly. Its a huge loss for this community when our players leave and our numbers reduce. Unfortunately, you're leaving the game on a very sour note. Memnon was a character that I disliked highly. Most of my interactions with Memnon were very, very negative and only resulted in you breaking character and making excuses for why you lost in PK. Memnon's RP I can't comment on as I did not see any of it. I saw a player express his frustrations in a very negative way.

I do not think you should quit the game, but you are blaming all of us for your lack of success. You're not as good at PK as some people here. Can you get as good as those that are constantly at the top? Of course you can.

This deletion post of your's isn't helping anything. What is the issue that you experienced? What are the situations that you encountered that made you;

1. Break character SO many times in game.

2. Make this post.

Are these situations something we can moderate and fix? Can things be implemented to reduce this frustration?

All of the above said:

I have beat Memnon in a few fights and every time I did I was yelled at and fed some excuse as to WHY you lost. YOU made the mistakes. YOU are the reason you're not good at PK. Not because of cheating, abuse, or idiocy. Its YOU. 

People in FL, especially those that struggle in PK, don't want to listen to advice or try to learn from their mistakes. People expect to be successful and when they aren't, they get mad and blame some outside factor to explain why they lost. Maybe PK is killing FL. I don't know. But we seem to lose more players over frustration with PK than any other aspect. Including people disliking others or the more common, disliking the Staff or feeling like they were victimized by the Staff.

[f0xx]

Alright, I will bite this one. 

The standards have fallen and dramatically too. Some people have taken the lift of gang rules as a green card to gang and tag *anyone*. I thought we all agreed we are gonna be tagging/ganging only the strong guys? You know.... Ashuga, Tarsonis, Belderon?

I see uncaballed people barely dressed being tagged by two qthings. Qthings pit humping. Qthings attacking people who are trying to get back to their corpses... The other day I myself was engaged by qthing right after a duel and with 100 hp. I understand mistakes happen now and then, but when mistakes happen only to the exact same people, over and over, then perhaps it's not a mistake? I thought qthings were supposed to be held at higher standards?

 

When you consider my words, keep in my one thing - kamikazi is a player who most of you would consider average. And he is being ganged by people who we consider vets.

It's sad.

[egreir]

"All I have to say to you is "FUCK YOU". The game would be a lot better without a fucking cheater like you. So many people have left, because of your bullshit, I can't really count them. And I still cannot comprehend the reason as to why the Imms are tolerating a fucking asshole like you. I know you play Grakk, so don't post hypocrite shit in general, like you would like to see me come back, as I am sure you don't mean them. "

 

It's that attitude that's getting you no where.  Here's a list of my interactions with Memnon -

 

1. Watched you fighting Lelliana, never engaged you.  You died in the sands.  I was severely in need of gear, so yes, I was wanting your armor.  You unghosted in front of me, with Lel not in sight...what in the world makes you think an avatar is just going to let you be?  

2. After being spit on about 10 times, called all kinds of names, etc...I killed you 1v1.

3. Killed you again 1v1, starting the fight at a severe disadvantage by engaging you at night by the sands. Let you chase me to Maelbrim and killed you.

 

Then on your character Krai, I find you 1v1 in the Ford.  I attacked, my pets tripped you every round, you died...I get the same spit on, name calling, etc.  Tell me you were linkdead and you'd wreck me if you hadn't been  about I'd be wanting my psi friend to help me.  What happened when we went 1v1?  Yeah.  You were a corpse and I was like 1200hp.

I have always and will always fight anyone, anytime, anywhere.  That's 1v1, that's 2v1, that's you hurt, that's you 100%.   It's very rare that I run from ANY fight. (I do hate shamans though)

 

 

Not trying to get defensive here, I'm just saying...you should really cool it with the anger.  You're acting like all your deaths are someone elses fault.  Maybe killing you naked in the sands while you were trying to get your armor was lame, but guess what? You're an undead, I'm an avatar, and I needed your armor - you should have known if you unghosted I was coming for you.  Other than that ONE episode, I've never gone out of the way to do anything to you that would be considered lame.

 

Sorry you think I'm trash.  I sincerely hope you cool off and come back.

[Gaunticles]

I liked Memnon alot because he called me general and made my lich feel good. That being said please don't go, because the continuum will be the weaker for it. 

Also please explain how someone was cheating you because I consider myself the worst player and need to know whats going on.

[the_nightmare]

I will bite this one also. I stand behind f0xx and kamikadzi. Ooc contacts are visible between some cgaracters i already posted on prayer. Indeed there is a green card for ganging and tag teaming even those like Memnon that are wearing rags with no malforms at all without giving them the chance to get back on feet.

[Trick]

I thought lifting the restrictions would see the powerhouses dealt with. I was wrong. F0xx is 100% right. Middle of the pack players are definitely feeling the negative affects of it.

Despite that, I don't feel as though that change was the reason for Kamikazi's thread. He is consistently posting these threads. If it wasn't this issue, it would have been another. 

[Kyzarius]

i think you ooc'ed on me everytime we fought.

always talked huge trash to my characters, and if you died to me continued to just be insulting and rude...

I really dont know what your beef is, maybe leaving is a good idea.  Maybe some anger management..

[Gaunticles]

2 minutes ago, the_nightmare said:

I will bite this one also. I stand behind f0xx and kamikadzi. Ooc contacts are visible between some cgaracters i already posted on prayer. Indeed there is a green card for ganging and tag teaming even those like Memnon that are wearing rags with no malforms at all without giving them the chance to get back on feet.

 

What do you mean by " Ooc contacts are visible between some cgaracters "?

 

This game is very challenging, sometimes in the wrong way. You spend so much time building up your character it's hard, very hard not to take it personally. I'm not saying that Kami is %100 percent blameless but if you are interacting with someone you should be able to tell they lost there composure give them some space and time to cool off. 

Our playerbase is small unlike major MMO so it's like a family almost.  So if your kids are upset you don't kill them repeatedly or else you go to jail. If you don't like that person out of game thats fine but respect they contribute in some way just by playing. This game would not be fun if you were alone like so many other dead MUDS out there. 

[Lloth]

You guys have one chance to stop flaming before I lock the thread and prune the replies.

[egreir]

The psi seems very aggressive, just like me.   If you're online and we are both online, we're both probably hunting you. 

 

What we are NOT doing is using OOC means to hunt you or kill you or purposefully trying to gang up on you. I don't need to do that.  You're playing an Undead in a goodie rich environment. Shit happens. 

[Gaunticles]

6 minutes ago, egreir said:

The psi seems very aggressive, just like me.   If you're online and we are both online, we're both probably hunting you. 

 

What we are NOT doing is using OOC means to hunt you or kill you or purposefully trying to gang up on you. I don't need to do that.  You're playing an Undead in a goodie rich environment. Shit happens. 

Being a undead Lich I get that but once you killed somebody or if they are interacting in a OOC way that you described you should know you hit the wrong button. Maybe try giving the some time and space so they do not blow themselves up. 

I'm not trying say it's your fault but you should try to consider there point of view and save them so they continue to play.

We need all sorts of skilled players. We need horribly skilled pvp players like myself to feed those medium skilled people. We need the medium skilled people to feed those OverPowered sons of bitches lol. 

 

[egreir]

Gaunticles, I've been here a long time.  I've been where Kamikazi is at.  When I killed him on Memnon and he spit on me 10x, told me to fuck off 3x, etc. etc.........I was never replying or doing anything to egg him on.  He's just an angry elf.

[Enethier]

11 minutes ago, Gaunticles said:

 

What do you mean by " Ooc contacts are visible between some cgaracters "?

 

This game is very challenging, sometimes in the wrong way. You spend so much time building up your character it's hard, very hard not to take it personally. I'm not saying that Kami is %100 percent blameless but if you are interacting with someone you should be able to tell they lost there composure give them some space and time to cool off. 

Our playerbase is small unlike major MMO so it's like a family almost.  So if your kids are upset you don't kill them repeatedly or else you go to jail. If you don't like that person out of game thats fine but respect they contribute in some way just by playing. This game would not be fun if you were alone like so many other dead MUDS out there. 

 

Not even close to 100% blameless. All sides are to blame.

Why does it have to be anyone else's responsibility to manage kami's rage? Why should they turn the other cheek when he breaks character to spit on them, be vulgar with them, and try to cut them down personally? He makes his bed, he should lie in it. Nobody should stand for being treated the way he treats people he loses to. I would probably also kill him repeatedly if he acted as badly to me as he does to some other people.

That said, I've watched how those two pursue him, and it is what I would consider trashy behavior. I really don't agree with the lifting of ganging restrictions, at least not across the board. And even when they don't actively gang, you can totally tell there is coordination, or one of them really pushing that border through other actions. It makes me not want to play Nexus, and especially not Knight. I don't want to be a victim of that, but I also don't want to be a part of it. And I think that is a dangerous thing to have people start to think.

As for needing all types of players... I don't agree. Getting numbers for the sake of numbers is a good way to destroy the community of the game. I am a firm believer that the nature of this game naturally thins out those that aren't a good fit. Whatever happened to "Harden up, Princess?"

 

[egreir]

We have used clan chat to keep each other aware of other player's locations, movements, etc...............just as any two allies in a war would do.

[Gaunticles]

Really what I'm trying to say let's be better people and try help someone if they struggle in one aspect of the game. I'm not trying to find fault with either side but resolve if in a manner that everybody benefits.

Kamikaze shouldn't of gone OOC, instead should talked about it on the forum and stuck to his RP.

I don't know enough to make a good judgement on most PVP issues but I do know dying multiple times is never fun and can make you not want to play. 

[Anume]

My personal 2ct on this one:

I've never or very very seldom looted someone heavily on Thulgan bc that just means they stop playing and you get to sit around alone with nobody to fight. If you try to destroy a character fully by frustrating the player behind the character (repeated sacred / malform weapon saccs, repeated full lootes, unnecessary gangs / tags), you just make them go away and end up alone.

I've also said this before, but I am very opposed to unnecessarying tagging or ganging, aka 2 stronger chars killing one weaker one they could each handle alone.

This is my personal view on the matter.