mya Posted October 15, 2016 Report Share Posted October 15, 2016 You know, I recall a time where you had to type shoot for your PC to use fired weapons. This automatic fired weapons thing is a huge imbalance in my view. The game has only grown in auto-damage stuff that aren't block-able meele attacks. The arrow missile scroll makes all the sense. Auto-fired ranged combat was a huge power expansion to every fired weapons class, which coincidentally includes only melee classes. And what else makes sense. Shield blocking arrows. A shield is one of the best combat items to block arrows. Yet only some warriors can block arrows with a shield? Come on, arrows should automatically check the shield block skill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambroas Posted October 15, 2016 Report Share Posted October 15, 2016 On 10/13/2016 at 0:00 PM, Anume said: If you walk, as compared to teleport to get near, archer and bard are the two fastest classes to get there, the bard maybe slightly faster but then a lot less defensive and offensive once the boss mob is reached. So, if you include killing the boss mob, I'd say archer = bard = fastest two classes here. I'm just curious, didn't play mine long but why do you say that about bard? I'd think a warrior with their extra attacks or a necro with pets would be faster than a bard but I'm usually wrong about these kinds of things. Bard would have less attacks per round, same fired weapons. Song damage would be the only thing I could think of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f0xx Posted October 15, 2016 Report Share Posted October 15, 2016 4 hours ago, Ambroas said: Look at archer and tell me the reasons you'd choose it. I will choose it because: 1) I can fire twice faster than normal (both in combat and out of combat) 2) I can fire more accurate when blind. 3) I can put pets to sleep. 4) I can put aggro mobs to sleep (which makes exploring and gathering wares SO much easier) 5) I can hit vulns with my arrows. 6) I can poison enemies with my arrows. 7) I can plague enemies with my arrows. 8.) My arrows have a chance to penetrate missile shield 9) Unlike beastmaster, my ranger path cannot be so easily "dispatched" 10) I can "dispel" gladiators' stance. [edit] Btw your out of range return fire suggestion is good and I agree with it. The missile scroll - it's a good idea to actually make it reduce the damage from archer arrows and not partially block them - that will give them more consistency. But I think 25% damage reduction is far too little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zavero Posted October 15, 2016 Report Share Posted October 15, 2016 There is a song that would help the bards get through I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Implementor Anume Posted October 15, 2016 Implementor Report Share Posted October 15, 2016 bards can calm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aulian Posted October 15, 2016 Report Share Posted October 15, 2016 See my other post lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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