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[Unknown Criminal]

Your parrying so bad, you should have saved the practice point  

[Tantangel]

You would think that at least with a MOB I'd parry something at least once in the entire fight. I'd expect it more from fighting a melee PK character to not do so because I'm so used to that now, but a MOB done bent me over and gave it to me hard. My hit/dam was even lower in the first character log than what it is in the second, but I at least parried 5 years ago. It makes it very painful when you face nothing but Melee opponents who are strong and even though you're built to destroy many of them, their output is still a lot higher through all protections. That is quite literally every MOB that's of a high enough rank too. I'm sure hitroll plays a part in it as well, but even then I'd think just one attack would be parried. I have to fight an Ooze or a Sapling practically to parry any of their attacks.

[Fool_Hardy]

Not that mob.

People keep saying I cannot parry.

Then they post themselves getting owned.

UC was under dressed or under ranked against the extremist.

You are outgunned here. 700 ac 105 parry and dodge 102 two handed and he will still hit you. It's a tough mob with a unique item. It's supposed to be tough.

Edit forgot 115 shield block. Still hit me with almost every strike.

[Dale]

I've never heard anyone complain about party this bad until I started reading the forums again recently

[Dale]

Spell 

Energy Form

For longer than most guilds have existed mages of the arcane arts have fallen prey to the brutish act of close combat.  Burly and dexterous melee fighters get in too close for spells to take real effect and make short work of their physical bodies. Not being able to party weapons well the mages discovered they can briefly force their body to take the form of lightning only to have weapons pass right through them.  

[Kyzarius]

Blur? Fade? Blink? 

[Ulmusdorn]

On 21/08/2017 at 11:17 AM, Wade said:

It's actually quite a huge nerf to invokers to get rid of cursed awl pikes. 

Bringing this up has done the exact opposite of what was intended, I'm quite disappointed. 

 

 

When was your last invoker? 

[Erelei]

I never used an awl pike with my invokers.

And I think I did pretty well...

[aaa]

35 minutes ago, Ulmusdorn said:

When was your last invoker? 

Less than 3 months ago, I played Elithior in savant. 

[Tantangel]

39 minutes ago, Fool_Hardy said:

Not that mob.

People keep saying I cannot parry.

Then they post themselves getting owned.

UC was under dressed or under ranked against the extremist.

You are outgunned here. 700 ac 105 parry and dodge 102 two handed and he will still hit you. It's a tough mob with a unique item. It's supposed to be tough.

Edit forgot 115 shield block. Still hit me with almost every strike.

Well I didn't say he shouldn't hit me, I know how strong he is, it's more of a fact that I wasn't able to parry a single time. I think his high hitroll and damage output pretty much destroys any chance of being parried which is why I couldn't do it. Here's one though that happened against another fellow mage so hit/dam is very similar and chance of parrying are equal in those terms. As far as blur and the likes go, they're defenses seem to be more reliable at times than parry, though parry when it does kick in works wonders. Even so though, you can't use them unless the class you have has them attached to it, in which case these aren't classes that have either.

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Necromancer utters the words, 'grzzs'.
You yell 'Die! Necromancer, you sorcerous dog!'

Tantangel: [100][===|===|===|===]
(571hp 760m 313mv) (11279exp 190570go 17ti) (595cps Mounted)
Necromancer's pierce misses you.
A ghost fades into existence.
A ghost's chill grazes you.
A ghost's chill misses you.
A ghost's chill hits you.
A flesh golem fades into existence.
A flesh golem's slash misses you.
You parry A specter's attack.
A specter's grep misses you.
A specter's grep injures you.
You feel a momentary chill.
You parry a flesh golem's attack.
You parry a ghost's attack.
A ghost's chill misses you.
Your acidic bite misses Necromancer.
Your acidic bite misses Necromancer.
A stone golem's pierce misses Necromancer.
A Professional soldier's charge misses Necromancer.
A Professional soldier's charge misses Necromancer.
Necromancer is blinded by the dirt in his eyes!
A Professional soldier's kicked dirt scratches Necromancer.
The sun slowly disappears in the west.
Necromancer rubs the dirt out of his eyes.

Tantangel: [95][===|===|===|===]
(546hp 760m 343mv) (11279exp 190570go 18ti) (595cps Mounted)
Necromancer's pierce misses you.
You parry A specter's attack.
You parry a flesh golem's attack.
Luckily your feet aren't on the ground.
A ghost's chill misses you.
A ghost's chill misses you.
A ghost's chill hits you.
Necromancer parries your attack.
Necromancer parries your attack.
A Professional soldier's charge misses Necromancer.

Tantangel: [93][===|===|===|===]
(535hp 760m 343mv) (11279exp 190570go 18ti) (595cps Mounted)
Necromancer utters the words, 'noselacri'.

Tantangel: [93][===|===|===|===]
(535hp 760m 343mv) (11279exp 190570go 18ti) (595cps Mounted)
c 'dispel magic
Necromancer's protective shield dissipates.
Ok.

Tantangel: [93][===|===|===|===]
(535hp 734m 343mv) (11279exp 190570go 18ti) (595cps Mounted)
Necromancer's pierce misses you.
Necromancer's pierce misses you.
A specter's grep misses you.
You parry a flesh golem's attack.
You parry a ghost's attack.
A ghost's chill grazes you.
Your acidic bite misses Necromancer.
A stone golem's pierce misses Necromancer.

Tantangel: [92][===|===|===|===]
(530hp 734m 343mv) (11279exp 190570go 18ti) (595cps Mounted)
Necromancer utters the words, 'noselacri'.

Tantangel: [92][===|===|===|===]
(530hp 734m 343mv) (11279exp 190570go 18ti) (595cps Mounted)
Necromancer's pierce misses you.
A specter's grep misses you.
A specter's grep misses you.
A flesh golem's slash misses you.
Luckily your feet aren't on the ground.
You parry a ghost's attack.
A ghost's chill hits you.
Your acidic bite misses Necromancer.
Necromancer parries your attack.
A stone golem trips Necromancer, sending him to the ground.
A stone golem's trip scratches Necromancer.
A Professional soldier's charge misses Necromancer.

Tantangel: [90][===|===|===|==-]
(519hp 734m 343mv) (11279exp 190570go 18ti) (595cps Mounted)
c 'icic
Your icicle DISMEMBERS Necromancer!

Tantangel: [90][===|===|===|==-]
(519hp 714m 343mv) (11279exp 190570go 18ti) (595cps Mounted)
c 'icic

Necromancer's pierce misses you.
A specter's grep misses you.
A specter's grep misses you.
You parry a flesh golem's attack.
A ghost's chill hits you.
A ghost's chill misses you.
Your acidic bite misses Necromancer.
A stone golem's pierce misses Necromancer.

Tantangel: [88][===|===|===|==-]
(508hp 714m 343mv) (11279exp 190570go 18ti) (595cps Mounted)
Your icicle MASSACRES Necromancer!

Tantangel: [88][===|===|===|==-]
(508hp 694m 343mv) (11279exp 190570go 18ti) (595cps Mounted)
You parry Necromancer's attack.
A specter's grep misses you.
You feel your life slipping away!
A specter's energy drain grazes you.
A specter tries to disarm you, but fails.
A flesh golem's slash misses you.
A ghost's chill misses you.
You parry a ghost's attack.
Your acidic bite misses Necromancer.
Your acidic bite misses Necromancer.

Tantangel: [88][===|===|===|==-]
(503hp 347m 171mv) (11297exp 190570go 18ti) (595cps Mounted)
Necromancer has fled!
Necromancer rides south.

Necromancer yells 'Die! Tantangel, you sorcerous dog!'
You lock Necromancer's gaze and try to force him to sleep.
Necromancer dozes off on the back of a warhorse!
Suddenly his head slams full force against a hard unyielding surface!
Necromancer goes to sleep.

(503hp 311m 169mv) (11297exp 190570go 18ti) (595cps Mounted)
c 'curse' Necromancer

Necromancer looks uncomfortable.

c 'icic' Necromancer

You fade into existence.
Your icicle mauls Necromancer.

Tantangel: [100][===|===|===|===]
(571hp 696m 379mv) (11297exp 190570go 21ti) (595cps Mounted)
c 'icic' Necromancer

Necromancer's pierce misses you.
Your acidic bite misses Necromancer.
A stone golem's pierce misses Necromancer.
A Professional soldier trips Necromancer, sending him to the ground.
A Professional soldier's trip scratches Necromancer.

Tantangel: [100][===|===|===|===]
(571hp 696m 379mv) (11297exp 190570go 21ti) (595cps Mounted)
Your icicle LACERATES Necromancer!

Tantangel: [100][===|===|===|===]
(571hp 632m 379mv) (11297exp 190570go 21ti) (595cps Mounted)
c 'icic' Necromancer

Necromancer's pierce misses you.
Your acidic bite misses Necromancer.

Tantangel: [100][===|===|===|===]
(571hp 632m 379mv) (11297exp 190570go 21ti) (595cps Mounted)
Necromancer has fled!
Necromancer rides north.

(571hp 632m 379mv) (11297exp 190570go 21ti) (595cps Mounted) They aren't here.

(571hp 632m 379mv) (11297exp 190570go 21ti) (595cps Mounted)
Necromancer rides in.
A ghost flies in.
A flesh golem walks in.
A specter flies in.

(571hp 632m 379mv) (11297exp 190570go 21ti) (595cps Mounted)
Necromancer utters the words, 'grzzs'.
You yell 'Die! Necromancer, you sorcerous dog!'
You feel very sleepy...
You doze off on the back of a white stallion!
Suddenly your head slams full force against a hard and unyielding surface.
You come to with a pounding headache.
You go to sleep.

Someone's acid blast *** OBLITERATES *** you!
That really did HURT!

Tantangel: [74][===|===|===|---]
(425hp 760m 379mv) (11297exp 190570go 1ti) (595cps Dounted)
fle
You couldn't escape!

Tantangel: [74][===|===|===|---]
(425hp 760m 379mv) (11297exp 190570go 1ti) (595cps Dounted)
Someone's pierce misses you.
Someone's grep maims you!
Someone's grep MUTILATES you!
Someone tries to disarm you, but fails.
You parry someone's attack.
Someone's chill mauls you.
Someone's chill mauls you.
Someone's chill mauls you.
Someone's grep devastates you!
Someone's slash misses you.
Someone's chill decimates you!
You parry someone's attack.
Your acidic bite misses someone.
Someone parries your attack.
You have become better at second attack! [79%]

Tantangel: [40][===|==-|---|---]
(229hp 760m 379mv) (11297exp 190570go 1ti) (595cps Dounted)
Someone utters the words, 'aque bragh'.
The toxin has made you glow.
Someone's acid blast *** OBLITERATES *** you!
That really did HURT!
You sure are BLEEDING!

Tantangel: [13][==-|---|---|---]
(78hp 760m 379mv) (11297exp 190570go 1ti) (595cps Dounted)
fle
You flee from combat!

Someone utters the words, 'grzzs'.
You yell 'Help someone is attacking me!'

Tantangel: [13][==-|---|---|---]
(78hp 690m 377mv) (11297exp 190570go 1ti) (595cps Dounted)
fle

Someone's pierce misses you.
Someone's pierce misses you.
Someone's grep MUTILATES you!
You sure are BLEEDING!
You parry someone's attack.
Someone's slash misses you.
Someone's chill devastates you!
You sure are BLEEDING!
You parry someone's attack.
Someone's chill wounds you.
You are mortally wounded, and will die soon, if not aided.
Someone's grep LACERATES you!
You have been KILLED!!

As the cold chill of death descends upon you Erelei grants you yet another chance.
You have been granted a temporary sanctuary as an invincible ghost.
As long as you don't attack anything.

That's 15 attacks parried of a total of 47 or so attacks (not including the 15 parried). So 62 in total or less than 25% of attacks being parried which I think is fine assuming the person has an ungodly like amount of hitroll to boost their offensiveness, but fighting a mage at the same level? He parries 3 of my attacks for sure, I'm not sure once I'm blinded who I'm fighting, and I know where I went wrong in the fight. I try to pay attention to parry in general, just because it's one of the defenses that fires the most from what I've seen, and even at level 30 melee with under a 90% in parry I parry far better than any of my mages. It could be just that I'm not bias, but it seems like a drastic difference between the two sometimes.

[Dale]

You guys were not pinned, who was higher level?

[Ulmusdorn]

1 hour ago, Wade said:

Less than 3 months ago, I played Elithior in savant. 

Have anything constructive to add? 

I've played an invoker in the last 18 months and I did fine with everyone besides Kotrag. I didn't even know about the cursed awl pike thing.

[aaa]

37 minutes ago, Ulmusdorn said:

Have anything constructive to add? 

The reason the awl pike is so valuable to an invoker is that only staffs and Staves can be fully charged, so if you want the extra ac from wearing a shield you need to use a one handed weapon and that leaves you with only one option, the pike. 

If other one handed weapons could be fully charged this wouldn't really be an issue. 

Sure, you could go without the shield and its ac but maxing out your ac isn't even a variable for a mage currently, it's a must have. 

I will say that the pit staff with a jade figurine isn't bad as an alternative, I think that's 15 ac? Nothing compared to a warshield of invulnerability mind you. 

I'd take this all with a grain of salt mind you as he wasn't really successful and it was my first caballed character since I returned but I have played many a mage until I gave up on them... Which is a shame because it's what I enjoy playing, probably has something to do with why I'm not currently playing. 

[Lloth]

Thank you, everyone, for the input. 

[Lawless]

On 10/21/2016 at 3:22 AM, Lloth said:

There is a drow racial questline that Naruthiron started. It's not all fleshed out, but finishing it is on my list of things to do. Drow females have one set of quests, drow males have another set.

Yo this get done?

[egreir]

No. Was supposed to be a new end game area IIRC