Izzy Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 You call onto Volgathras's power and envelop Watcher Defender in the very stuff of evil. Watcher Defender is plagued by doubts of his own faith! Your evil aura *** OBLITERATES *** Watcher Defender! Watcher Defender has a few scratches. Izlo: [===|===|===|===] <1019hp 564m 455mv> Watcher Defender dodges your attack. An ancient sceptre draws life from Watcher Defender. Your life drain injures Watcher Defender. You parry Watcher Defender's attack. Your fire shield MASSACRES Watcher Defender! Watcher Defender has some small wounds and bruises. Izlo: [===|===|===|===] <1026hp 564m 455mv> path al You call onto Volgathras's power and envelop Watcher Defender in the very stuff of evil. Watcher Defender's faith has already been shaken. Your evil aura *** OBLITERATES *** Watcher Defender! Your crush DISMEMBERS Watcher Defender! Your crush MASSACRES Watcher Defender! You block Watcher Defender's attack with your shield. Your fire shield LACERATES Watcher Defender! Watcher Defender has quite a few wounds. Izlo: [===|===|===|===] <1026hp 543m 455mv> path al Your crush DISMEMBERS Watcher Defender! An ancient sceptre draws life from Watcher Defender. Your life drain scratches Watcher Defender. You block Watcher Defender's attack with your shield. Your fire shield MASSACRES Watcher Defender! Watcher Defender has quite a few wounds. Izlo: [===|===|===|===] <1027hp 543m 455mv> You call onto Volgathras's power and envelop Watcher Defender in the very stuff of evil. Watcher Defender looks very ill. Your evil aura *** OBLITERATES *** Watcher Defender! Watcher Defender has some big nasty wounds and scratches. Izlo: [===|===|===|===] <1027hp 522m 455mv> path al Your crush DISMEMBERS Watcher Defender! Your crush DISMEMBERS Watcher Defender! Watcher Defender's defense hits you. Your fire shield DISMEMBERS Watcher Defender! Your fire shield MASSACRES Watcher Defender! Watcher Defender looks pretty hurt. Izlo: [===|===|===|===] <1016hp 522m 455mv> A green dragon flies in. You call onto Volgathras's power and envelop Watcher Defender in the very stuff of evil. Watcher Defender seems to be unaffected. Your evil aura *** DEMOLISHES *** Watcher Defender! Watcher Defender looks pretty hurt. Izlo: [===|===|===|===] <1016hp 501m 455mv> Cenlar utters the words, 'sraiabra gzar'. You yell 'Die! Cenlar, you sorcerous dog!' You have been barred from all travel and contact out of this plane. Your crush misses Cenlar. Cenlar is in excellent condition. Izlo: [===|===|===|===] <1016hp 501m 455mv> path al The Hunter Eternal's fury mauls you. You block Cenlar's attack with your shield. You block Cenlar's attack with your shield. Cenlar's shock MUTILATES you! Cenlar's hunger maims you! Cenlar's shock MUTILATES you! Cenlar's tsuki strike mauls you. Your fire shield MANGLES Cenlar! You parry a green dragon's attack. Your fire shield DISMEMBERS a green dragon! You parry a green dragon's attack. Your fire shield DISMEMBERS a green dragon! Your crush misses Cenlar. You parry Watcher Defender's attack. Your fire shield LACERATES Watcher Defender! Cenlar has a few scratches. Izlo: [===|===|===|=--] <858hp 501m 455mv> You call onto Volgathras's power and envelop Watcher Defender in the very stuff of evil. Watcher Defender is already poisoned. Your evil aura *** OBLITERATES *** Watcher Defender! Cenlar has a few scratches. Izlo: [===|===|===|=--] <858hp 480m 455mv> path al You block Cenlar's attack with your shield. Cenlar's hunger misses you. Cenlar's shock MUTILATES you! Cenlar's hunger devastates you! You parry Cenlar's attack. Cenlar's tsuki strike hits you. The Meat Kleefer adorned with a glowing ember sears your flesh with flames. Your eyes tear up from smoke...you can't see a thing! Someone's flaming bite grazes you. You can feel something dig into your body. Someone's wrath hits you. Your fire shield MASSACRES someone! You parry someone's attack. Your fire shield DISMEMBERS someone! Your crush misses someone. You block someone's attack with your shield. Your fire shield DISMEMBERS someone! Izlo: [===|===|===|---] <758hp 480m 455mv> They aren't here. Izlo: [===|===|===|---] <758hp 480m 455mv> Someone lights something and smokes it. Someone is surrounded by a white aura. Izlo: [===|===|===|---] <758hp 480m 455mv> com word Something seems to be blocking the spell. Izlo: [===|===|===|---] <758hp 456m 455mv> Something's fury maims you! You block someone's attack with your shield. You parry someone's attack. You block someone's attack with your shield. You block someone's attack with your shield. You block someone's attack with your shield. You block someone's attack with your shield. Someone's tsuki strike scratches you. You are shocked by the lightning from something. Someone's shocking bite grazes you. Your fire shield devastates someone! Someone's slash grazes you. Your fire shield MUTILATES someone! Your fire shield devastates someone! Your crush misses someone. Someone's defense hits you. Your fire shield MASSACRES someone! Someone is DEAD!! You've retrieved something! [SAVANT]: 'Izlo has retrieved our item from Watcher.' A new someone quickly takes a position before the altar. You parry someone's attack. Your fire shield injures someone. Someone tries to disarm you, but fails. Izlo: [===|===|===|---] <699hp 456m 455mv> flee flee You flee from combat! Someone extends a branch and bars you from entering. Someone says 'You shall not pass!' You flee from combat! You can't see a thing! Someone throws his something and hits you with a couple of them. Someone's throw decimates you! <674hp 456m 454mv> s Someone flies in. Someone flies in. <674hp 456m 454mv> You yell 'Help! I am being attacked by someone!' Something's fury mauls you. You parry someone's attack. You block someone's attack with your shield. You parry someone's attack. Someone's hunger devastates you! You block someone's attack with your shield. Someone's tsuki strike scratches you. Something sears your flesh with flames. Someone's flaming bite hits you. You can feel something dig into your body. Someone's wrath injures you. Your fire shield maims someone! Someone throws his something and hits you with several of them. Someone's throw DISMEMBERS you! You flee from combat! You can't see a thing! Someone throws his something and hits you with several of them. Someone's throw DISMEMBERS you! <471hp 456m 453mv> s s Alas, you cannot go that way. <471hp 456m 453mv> Alas, you cannot go that way. <471hp 456m 453mv> Alas, you cannot go that way. <471hp 456m 453mv> e You can't see a thing! <471hp 456m 452mv> You yell 'Help! I am being attacked by someone!' Something's fury devastates you! Someone's shock maims you! Someone's hunger maims you! You flee from combat! You can't see a thing! Someone throws his something and hits you with a few of them. Someone's throw LACERATES you! <322hp 456m 451mv> s s You can't see a thing! <322hp 456m 449mv> You can't see a thing! <339hp 483m 473mv> s You can't see a thing! <339hp 483m 471mv> e s You can't see a thing! <339hp 483m 469mv> You can't see a thing! <339hp 483m 468mv> s Alas, you cannot go that way. <339hp 483m 468mv> a You are affected by the following: Spell: fire breath : modifies ac by 15 for 0 hours : modifies hitroll by -6 for 0 hours Spell: tele lock : for 10 hours Spell: pass door : for 12 hours Spell: fly : for 15 hours Spell: divine intervention: for 13 hours Spell: demonfire : modifies unknown by 0 for 8 hours : modifies unknown by 0 for 8 hours Spell: sanctuary : for 5 hours Spell: protective shield: for 1 hours Spell: giant strength : modifies str by 5 for 45 hours Spell: detect traps : for 61 hours Spell: bless : modifies luck by 4 for 32 hours : modifies ac by -53 for 32 hours Spell: shield : modifies ac by -20 for 20 hours Spell: armor : modifies ac by -20 for 20 hours Spell: detect good : for 25 hours Spell: detect magic : for 25 hours Spell: detect invis : for 25 hours Spell: stone skin : modifies ac by -40 for 3 hours <339hp 483m 468mv> blind You aren't blind. <339hp 479m 468mv> w Alas, you cannot go that way. <339hp 479m 468mv> e e You can't see a thing! <339hp 479m 467mv> You can't see a thing! <339hp 479m 466mv> s Alas, you cannot go that way. <339hp 479m 466mv> e e You can't see a thing! <339hp 479m 465mv> You can't see a thing! <339hp 479m 464mv> cur cur You feel a lot better! <396hp 465m 464mv> cur Someone flies in. Someone flies in. <396hp 465m 464mv> You yell 'Help! I am being attacked by someone!' Something's fury devastates you! Someone's shock decimates you! Someone's hunger devastates you! Someone's shock maims you! You block someone's attack with your shield. You parry someone's attack. Someone's tsuki strike injures you. You sure are BLEEDING! Your fire shield devastates someone! Someone throws his something and hits you with one of them. Someone's throw hits you. You sure are BLEEDING! Izlo: [===|---|---|---] <245hp 465m 464mv> flee You feel a lot better! Izlo: [===|=--|---|---] <311hp 451m 464mv> You parry someone's attack. Someone's hunger devastates you! Someone's shock MUTILATES you! You sure are BLEEDING! You parry someone's attack. You block someone's attack with your shield. Someone's tsuki strike scratches you. You sure are BLEEDING! Something sears your flesh with flames. Someone's flaming bite scratches you. You sure are BLEEDING! You can feel something dig into your body. Someone's wrath hits you. You sure are BLEEDING! Your fire shield maims someone! You block someone's attack with your shield. Your fire shield DISMEMBERS someone! You block someone's attack with your shield. Your fire shield MUTILATES someone! Your crush misses someone. Something draws life from someone. Your life drain scratches someone. Izlo: [===|---|---|---] <228hp 451m 464mv> flee Luckily your feet aren't on the ground. Izlo: [===|---|---|---] <228hp 451m 464mv> Someone throws a handful of sharp spikes at your floating feet! You start to limp. Someone's caltraps hit you. You sure are BLEEDING! Izlo: [===|---|---|---] <216hp 451m 464mv> flee You feel a lot better! Something's fury devastates you! You sure are BLEEDING! You block someone's attack with your shield. Someone's hunger devastates you! You sure are BLEEDING! Someone's shock MUTILATES you! You sure are BLEEDING! You parry someone's attack. Someone's shock maims you! You sure are BLEEDING! Someone's hunger maims you! You sure are BLEEDING! Someone's tsuki strike grazes you. You sure are BLEEDING! You are shocked by the lightning from something. Someone's shocking bite grazes you. You sure are BLEEDING! Your fire shield decimates someone! You block someone's attack with your shield. Your fire shield MASSACRES someone! Someone dodges your attack. Your crush misses someone. Something draws life from someone. Your life drain scratches someone. Izlo: [==-|---|---|---] <97hp 437m 464mv> cur cur cur cur Someone's shock maims you! You sure are BLEEDING! You flee from combat! You can't see a thing! Someone throws his something and hits you with a couple of them. Someone's throw devastates you! You sure are BLEEDING! <31hp 437m 462mv> You aren't fighting anyone. <31hp 437m 462mv> You aren't fighting anyone. <31hp 437m 462mv> You aren't fighting anyone. <31hp 437m 462mv> You feel a lot better! <93hp 423m 462mv> Someone flies in. Someone flies in. <93hp 423m 462mv> cur You yell 'Help! I am being attacked by someone!' Something's fury maims you! You sure are BLEEDING! You block someone's attack with your shield. You block someone's attack with your shield. You parry someone's attack. Someone's hunger devastates you! You sure are BLEEDING! You block someone's attack with your shield. Someone's tsuki strike grazes you. You sure are BLEEDING! Something sears your flesh with flames. Someone's flaming bite grazes you. You sure are BLEEDING! You can feel something dig into your body. Someone's wrath injures you. You sure are BLEEDING! Your fire shield mauls someone. Someone throws his something and hits you with one of them. Someone's throw hits you. You are mortally wounded, and will die soon, if not aided. Izlo: [---|---|---|---] <-9hp 423m 462mv> You are hurt far too bad for that. The smoke leaves your eyes. You are mortally wounded, and will die soon, if not aided. Cenlar has quite a few wounds. Izlo: [---|---|---|---] <-10hp 423m 462mv> You are hurt far too bad for that. Cenlar has quite a few wounds. Izlo: [---|---|---|---] <-10hp 423m 462mv> You are hurt far too bad for that. Cenlar has quite a few wounds. Izlo: [---|---|---|---] <-10hp 423m 462mv> You are hurt far too bad for that. You have been KILLED!! Link to comment
Pali Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 The main flaw you exhibited here was spamming spells. When fighting the Defender you would enter the command to cast path again the instant your last cast went through - this means you can't react to things that happen during that round of combat. You should try and set up highlights for various effects being landed on you - you attempted to recall after you'd been hit with telelock, which was a waste of a round. When you're trying to heal as a blind communer on the run, do NOT just sit in one room and repeatedly cast the spell; very especially don't do so via spamming the spell, wait until your previous cast goes through, then enter the command again. Dance around while doing this - cast, move a couple rooms, cast again. Never try to cure mid-battle - you're going to take more damage than you heal during the combat rounds, and your ability to hit back is minimal because you're not casting offensive spells. Link to comment
f0xx Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 30 minutes ago, kamikazi said: Wtf...lotus scourge ninjas get auto throw on murders and flees now? What are you trying to achieve with these ninjas? Just make everyone playing anything else quit? Sheesh.... He is not a lotus scourge ninja anymore. Sheesh.... Link to comment
Implementor Anume Posted October 21, 2016 Implementor Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 Path changes will continue to be rare and require a lot of effort from the one who wants it. Cenlar wrote two applications, helped with balancing paths and paid some rp points to get this change, after about a month or so trying for it. His previous character also was denied any changes, bc he did not put in the effort. As to the fight, sorry for the derailment: As was already pointed out, don't spam, esp vs a mob. I also recommend to flee and do a where from time to time if you can't kill the mob very fast, so you see them coming. In some areas, it will take them quite a bit to reach you (e.g. Nexus, Knight, Savant) so you have a good chance to see them before they are there if you do that from time to time. Healing in battle is a no no. You lose more hp than you gain. If you are telelocked, you have only two options: run away faster than they can follow or kill them. Link to comment
Izzy Posted October 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 I was looking for him. He was hiding he came in so fast and I panicked when blinded. I was practically dead and had no clue where I was. The fact that I was owned that bad was very discouraging. Link to comment
Implementor Anume Posted October 21, 2016 Implementor Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 Such fights also help you to learn. You'll get better by analyzing them and doing it better next time. Only way to get better is to keep trying. To the vets out there: it's always nice to see some restraint in looting if you roflstomp someone. Easier to learn if you don't have to start over from scratch. Link to comment
Kyzarius Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 Get the savant shield. It's usable effect will help you offensivly. Use holy hands for the proc, in conjunction with the shield. Whenever you can always maintain age on your opponent. Pali's comment is perfect. You are spamming spells to fast. Let the round finish then use a spell so you can adapt. Link to comment
Pali Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 1 hour ago, crackala said: I was looking for him. He was hiding he came in so fast and I panicked when blinded. I was practically dead and had no clue where I was. The fact that I was owned that bad was very discouraging. Try to bring fights to areas you know well enough that you can run around in them blind - Elium is a great place for a communer to fight because it is so open, with so many rooms having the same name on where, that chasing in it is difficult no matter how good the chaser is. Outside most cabals the areas are very corridor-like, which makes chasing much easier. Next time he shows up, just flee immediately and run to one of the places. When you're blinded, flee, run two or three rooms in one direction, a couple more in another, then cast a heal - and keep up this pattern of move-move-move-move-heal-move. Just make sure not to spam your healing and you'll be very hard to take down. Edit: Also, there is no shame in refusing to fight someone who usually beats you unless they meet you on your terms. If they can't do it, they weren't all that strong in the first place. Link to comment
Izzy Posted October 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 Thanks for all the advice I will work on all of that with my next toon. Thanks for all the positivity! Link to comment
Kyzarius Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 Next toon? Your giving up on an almost trusted fg temporum cleric. Man thats just stupid. There is no other word for it. Temporal storm revolutionizes the combo your playing. Link to comment
Pali Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 17 minutes ago, Kyzarius said: Next toon? Your giving up on an almost trusted fg temporum cleric. Man thats just stupid. There is no other word for it. Temporal storm revolutionizes the combo your playing. This I am not a fan of. If his ability to enjoy the character is sufficiently impaired by his experiences with it thus far that even if he gets stronger he doesn't expect to enjoy it, that is his call to make. It may not be the call you would make, but that doesn't make it stupid. Sometimes bad memories and associations are enough to tarnish a good thing. If you think he should keep it going, say so, but there's no need to get insulting. Link to comment
f0xx Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 Don't get so butthurt Pali. He didn't insult anyone. He said his decision is stupid, which is true. Smart people make stupid decisions too. FG cleric in temp has all the means to explore alone and gather the knowledge required for proper itemisation. Not only that, but WM in its current state can give him the opportunity for a lot of PK practice. Link to comment
Pali Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 If you cannot imagine compelling reasons to decide to drop a character that one has found frustrating, even if there remains unrealized potential, the failure of imagination is on you, not on the person doing it. Link to comment
f0xx Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 I don't need to imagine anything. He has clearly stated his reasons for dropping the character, and they can be fixed. Link to comment
Izzy Posted October 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 I really liked the character and he was nearly dead. I dont think He would have lasted much longer. I made him harcore by mistake so sure I could have learned more, but with the numbers I faced I found it difficult to eq alone. I was literally by myself. NO help no nothing. Tough situation for your first toon back. Link to comment
Pali Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 Perfectly good reasons to decide that your time is better spent investing in a new character, I'd say. Link to comment
Fool_Hardy Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 Sometimes we are going to lose. Sometimes its unavoidable. In this case, you got the jitters. These guys may not remember what 1.0 was like, but those of us who were there remember the hearbeats. Overtime, that initial "OHHH HOOOLLLYYY HELLLLLLL, I am under attack!" goes away. Relax, on a normal character you can die like sixty times. More if you RP it well. I had a crusader who saw death in the doorway twice. So calm down, and take this very poor pkers advice. If your opponent is going to 2-3 round you, you did not have a chance anyway. <don't beat yourself up if Jordan dunks on you. In all other cases you DO have a chance. So watch that first round with bias. <who hit who more? I immediately look at them and enter a. <to verify what spells they have, what I was hit with, and to glimpse how much time I have to play with. Now flee. Period. Don't question this. Rule Number 1, you did not initiate, flee. Now your away, two rounds down, you know who is hitting who more. You know how much time you have. If you were holding your own, a fair trade of blows (read as damage), reengage when he enters. You have a healing advantage. If you were dropping faster than them, separate your self. That's right, start with the running away. Keep them chasing, never loose them. It takes about 10-15 minutes to get most melee's to burn their stash.(read as actual combat time-30 secs an hour) The trick is to keep them close, engage, and move on. You should be whittling them away. By the time you have fought two or three in this way you will no longer feel your heart beat, and you will then be calm enough to fight. Now, for chasing, I defer you to one of these others. Link to comment
Fool_Hardy Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 Wish I could still access Croyvern's Logs to the prayer room. There was a log in there where a thief tears my crusader up in literally half a game hour. Dreadful. Yes that is a hint to any immortal who would want to share that prize, you could sent it to me in a message <wink>. Link to comment
Pali Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 It's always a bit of a shock when a class that you're expecting your own to have the advantage over defeats you handily. The first time Vaelrasa and Behrath fought I expected @kamikazi to be at a disadvantage given the usual encounter between Rangers and bmgs - instead, the only fight I came close to winning was the one where he finally killed me (damned fury making me fail three casts in a row with him at awful ). I don't know that I ever gave him proper kudos for that well-earned and gutsy victory, so I'd like to do so here. Link to comment
Mmm Coffee Posted October 24, 2016 Report Share Posted October 24, 2016 On 10/22/2016 at 1:39 AM, Fool_Hardy said: Wish I could still access Croyvern's Logs to the prayer room. There was a log in there where a thief tears my crusader up in literally half a game hour. Dreadful. Yes that is a hint to any immortal who would want to share that prize, you could sent it to me in a message <wink>. Thief vs. Crusader (especially a storm crusader) is actually a pretty easy fight for the thief who has access to vuln daggers and doesn't allow themself to get lag-locked. Curious if it was one of my thieves Link to comment
f0xx Posted October 24, 2016 Report Share Posted October 24, 2016 How, as a thief, do you not allow yourself to get laglocked? Link to comment
Mmm Coffee Posted October 24, 2016 Report Share Posted October 24, 2016 If you're a Nexus Pandy, or venom sacks, or those boots everyone loves. Also dirt + shed skill...but i say that cuz I've only played slith thieves. Guess it's a little harder for others. Edit: What I meant by my comment is the fight is easy *IF* you don't get lag-locked. Ironically, the only sader to successfully kill a thief of mine was that elf Corimak Tribunal vs. a watcher thief I was playing at the time. But he was using a venom sack and I wasn't. Link to comment
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