Magick Posted December 30, 2016 Report Share Posted December 30, 2016 I'm sure it has been suggested in the past. Even though I hate fighting ferals with mages primarily for fury, I'm on the fence about such an item. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f0xx Posted December 30, 2016 Report Share Posted December 30, 2016 Not a bad idea. If ferals can cover their vuln them I see no problem with that. Just make it as rare as the cloak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izzy Posted December 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2016 6 hours ago, Grimulfr said: I know you're frustrated, we've all been there, but responding sarcastically to people who are genuinely trying to help you is not really the way to go. Your not wrong. I was a bit rude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cephirus Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 I am against the protecting against fury. I feel like this falls in line with a need to have something to counter everything. I think there needs to be things that we have to deal with, and thus they only affect people for a shorter period of time like fury. Fury can be very annoying, especially with the skills a thief has. The player of Kelmi is well versed and plans things out well, which makes him a very tough opponent to tackle as a mage/cleric, given his skills and abilities. However, he is not unbeatable. I know you have sent him running many times, on a long enough time line, he won't get away and you will see victory. However, you should also never expect to start just steam rolling him, unless the player gives up on the character and/or really starts making mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f0xx Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 With such^ mindset the playerbase would be much better as a whole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muddmann Posted January 1, 2017 Report Share Posted January 1, 2017 On 12/30/2016 at 11:05 PM, Cephirus said: I am against the protecting against fury. I feel like this falls in line with a need to have something to counter everything. I think there needs to be things that we have to deal with, and thus they only affect people for a shorter period of time like fury. Fury can be very annoying, especially with the skills a thief has. The player of Kelmi is well versed and plans things out well, which makes him a very tough opponent to tackle as a mage/cleric, given his skills and abilities. However, he is not unbeatable. I know you have sent him running many times, on a long enough time line, he won't get away and you will see victory. However, you should also never expect to start just steam rolling him, unless the player gives up on the character and/or really starts making mistakes. Isn't that kind of saying its ok for Kelmi to steamroll the cleric, but not the other way around? Doesn't seem quite fair to me. Though I will say that a cleric is the first character I really learned basic pk skills with, perhaps you just need to slow down and think a bit more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyzarius Posted January 1, 2017 Report Share Posted January 1, 2017 So on the flip side are you against the ferals being able to cancel out their fire vuln? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zavero Posted January 1, 2017 Report Share Posted January 1, 2017 1 hour ago, Kyzarius said: So on the flip side are you against the ferals being able to cancel out their fire vuln? Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mmm Coffee Posted January 1, 2017 Report Share Posted January 1, 2017 Well it's not something everyone would have access to if it's a unique item. Maybe just limit it to only one. Also, the item could otherwise be very mundane - i'm thinking pretty high AC (for facemask) and resist_fury...nothing else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cephirus Posted January 1, 2017 Report Share Posted January 1, 2017 I think some things we should try and keep in mind are: #1: If he is using fury, that is two rounds where he is not doing something elese. #2: The timer on fury is low and so he will likely be going for at least two furries, which this then makes it four rounds. #3: If you get the opener off you have your spell, he flurries, you can just flee and run around while the affect passes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enethier Posted January 1, 2017 Report Share Posted January 1, 2017 There is counterplay to fury, as Cephirus noted. Fury doesn't cost anyone a fight. How you react to fury, or the possibility of fury use, does. Inb4 Quote I lost against _____ because they had me furied, and I failed to cast that last spell, so he got me No, you were furied, stayed around like a derp, and died because you were greedy. Fury does all of about a decimate, max. I've yet to too see anyone die from the fury damage, have fury lag them, or have fury break their equipment. If that happens though, let me know. Should be a funny read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izzy Posted January 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2017 I am done responding to this post. Should a mage kill Kelmi or Kotreg feel free to post it here. Or you can continue to talk smack because you know nothing. Easy to talk about it from the outside. Be on the inside then I would love to hear your advise. I have fought the two nearly 50 times and I am not saying its impossible. Though I am saying good luck with that. There is someone on the other end of the Keyboard putting the fury command in. They are obviously doing other things in conjunction with fury. The combination of their Race/Class selection. The skill of the two characters at hand. The lack of defense a mage has. Not impossible. Very difficult. Happy hunting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enethier Posted January 1, 2017 Report Share Posted January 1, 2017 I hope you don't think that last part was directed at you, personally. It wasn't. Just a pre-planned response to the part in quotes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izzy Posted January 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2017 42 minutes ago, Enethier said: I hope you don't think that last part was directed at you, personally. It wasn't. Just a pre-planned response to the part in quotes. No I didnt. All is good. HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloth Posted January 1, 2017 Report Share Posted January 1, 2017 3 hours ago, Izzy said: I am done responding to this post. 3 hours ago, Enethier said: stuff 3 hours ago, Izzy said: No I didnt. All is good. HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE "Done responding" Just kidding dude, hope the responses aren't crushing your spirit. I know everyone here has the best of intentions... but I wouldn't want any of you to ever deliver any sort of news that needs even a modicum of compassion... Try to remember that Izzy posted this out of a real concern of his that has directly affected his enjoyment of his character. It's easy to respond matter-of-factly with your own views, but doing so only makes it harder on Izzy (and makes him, and any other person that posts their concerns in the future, less likely to come to your point of view). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izzy Posted January 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 39 minutes ago, Lloth said: Just kidding dude, hope the responses aren't crushing your spirit Im a big boy, I can dodge a jab when I see one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulmusdorn Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 I personally think that looking at how ofen fury fails may br a good idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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