f0xx Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 I bet most of you thought that's gonna be some negative thread. Well surprise mother huggers. Many recent threads have been locked due to flaming and flame baiting, but you know what's worse than having people fight each other over the game? Not having them. So I am glad I have you around, @Kyzarius, @Wade, @tassinvegeta, and everyone else who is wrong on every subject regarding the game <=== the smiley face denotes sarcasm. I sometimes even miss @egreir. But that happens very rarely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trick Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 Aww.. how sweet.. I wish we could all say the same to you.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pali Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 Hey, I like having @f0xx around - it's like having a jerk at the bar who makes you look good by comparison. Every community has its disagreements, squabbles and personality conflicts... this one really isn't that bad at all, things considered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egreir Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 I'm very troubled that Telufial came back and can't even play his favorite thing because of how bad the leveling part of this game in its current state heavily disfavors it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manual Labour Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 This is pretty untrue. It is so ridiculously easy to level and pinn anything it is absurd to hear complaints about it... Melee have a slight edge obviously in solo levelling via killing mobs, but anyone can do guild quests and reach pinn in no time at all (and earn a decent amount of gold at the same time). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egreir Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 1 hour ago, Manual Labour said: This is pretty untrue. It is so ridiculously easy to level and pinn anything it is absurd to hear complaints about it... Melee have a slight edge obviously in solo levelling via killing mobs, but anyone can do guild quests and reach pinn in no time at all (and earn a decent amount of gold at the same time). Anytime you're ready to roll and level a c/c and race me to 20 just let me know. I'll show you just how "slight" it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trick Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 These are one of those things that I see people asking for and I just wonder why it isn't changed... the people CLEARLY want it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manual Labour Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 1 hour ago, egreir said: Anytime you're ready to roll and level a c/c and race me to 20 just let me know. I'll show you just how "slight" it is. I'm not contesting you'd beat me to 20. You might even beat me to 50. What I am saying is that the margin is negligible and we would both do it so fast who even cares? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egreir Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 I'm saying I believe you're wrong. I would be lvl 20 and you'd be level 13ish. I'd be 50 and you'd be 35ish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egreir Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 I would level twice as fast as you. And to me that is broken and a huge turn off to players new and old alike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyzarius Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 yeah...i am sorry, @egreir is right, CC levels WAY slower than a melee. Melee is like ez mode ranking by comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Implementor Erelei Posted June 16, 2017 Implementor Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 3 hours ago, Fireman said: These are one of those things that I see people asking for and I just wonder why it isn't changed... the people CLEARLY want it.. If I changed things because 50% of a playerbase wanted it changed we'd probably not have a game right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulmusdorn Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 Does anyone else ever read these forums and facepalm? Does anyone else realise that CC's aren't supposed to level as quickly? That there is a slight slow down? That these classes in the future will benefit from never having to stock a consumable? Or should we give melee's sanc too? At the same time we can just slow the speed they level too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manual Labour Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 I conceded that a melee will level faster to 20. But lets measure real time. How fast did the melee hit 20? we are talking maybe 30 minutes. The CC will hit 20 in what? 40 minutes? Is this a huge problem? Not all combos will pinn, or even reach 20 in the same amount of time. Even some melees are faster than others. And a healer will beat anything to 50 in a totally solo climb. My question is, now big of a problem is this? The fastest possible climb to 50 solo is around how fast? We are talking less than 20 hours for sure, maybe even faster it's been a while since I have done it. What is the slowest possible climb solo? Probably not more than a few hour difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fool_Hardy Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 So melee vs caster exp is less, but you don't mention that do you? The time difference as Manual Labor said is not a significant one. Finally, your lone warrior will rank slower 30-50 than any c/c with word of recall and familiar with easy quests. Now, for words of encouragement. I can get a mage to level 10 without killing anything. If I am not good aligned and hunt through 10 in the sewers, I can go from 10-15 without killing anything. Guess what happens at 15? I have two pets and ranking becomes easy. Just because something is harder with one type than it is with another, does not mean its not fair, nor does it mean it needs changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egreir Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 6 hours ago, Manual Labour said: I conceded that a melee will level faster to 20. But lets measure real time. How fast did the melee hit 20? we are talking maybe 30 minutes. The CC will hit 20 in what? 40 minutes? Is this a huge problem? Not all combos will pinn, or even reach 20 in the same amount of time. Even some melees are faster than others. And a healer will beat anything to 50 in a totally solo climb. My question is, now big of a problem is this? The fastest possible climb to 50 solo is around how fast? We are talking less than 20 hours for sure, maybe even faster it's been a while since I have done it. What is the slowest possible climb solo? Probably not more than a few hour difference. My C/C is going on 3 hours and I'm lvl 14. Level: 14 Sex: M Age : 31(3h) And that was doing nothing but hard quests and killing appropriate mobs when I was given a quest I can't do. AAAAAAAAAAAND I beileve my character is hardcore with the exp bonus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egreir Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 6 hours ago, Ulmusdorn said: Does anyone else ever read these forums and facepalm? Does anyone else realise that CC's aren't supposed to level as quickly? That there is a slight slow down? That these classes in the future will benefit from never having to stock a consumable? Or should we give melee's sanc too? At the same time we can just slow the speed they level too. Maybe that was a great attitude back when this game was flourishing. Keep losing players, it's no skin off my nose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trick Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 How is that even possible...? Do medium quests, btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egreir Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 4 minutes ago, Fireman said: How is that even possible...? Do medium quests, btw. Very, very seldom do you I get a hard quest I can't do just as fast. You think there's a benefit to just doing medium for less exp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trick Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 1 minute ago, egreir said: Very, very seldom do you I get a hard quest I can't do just as fast. You think there's a benefit to just doing medium for less exp? Yes I do, because it's faster. Lol. In fact, I'll take your bet and race you. First to 20? But I get a 10 minute head start, because although it IS a bit slower, it's not by much. Hard quests have you killing stuff, mostly. Medium quests have you run to a mob then back to your guild. Low level, go to Maelbrim, and you'll run to Brambus and back to your GM for 2-4K a pop and then if you have to deliver to a different mob than your GM it's like 5k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egreir Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 Im doing a seperate experiment....rank a c/c until your score sheet has 1 hour. I'm doing a shit hybrid so it's not even as fast as a melee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trick Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 I'll still race and let you pick my class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egreir Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 neutral avian bmage. let me know when ur rdy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egreir Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 I'd like to clock our time @ 20 and @ 30 just for science's sake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egreir Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 The way I will outscale you from 20-30 is way more severe than 1-20...I may have spoke a little too bold about 1-20 lol we'll see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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