I Just Solo'ed Vlad!

[f0xx]

8 hours ago, Wade said:

AFAIK, it can't be done anymore. No more zombie + the ac levels you had are no longer attainable.

And a certain carcass bug that allowed you to stack armor indefinitely got fixed.

[English lad]

9 hours ago, Kyzarius said:

Nope sorry, destruction psi can drop a single hard mob, but cant even get an ember solo. 

So yeah Lelleiala could solo the gor'gorak.  But couldnt do anything with any gauntlet. 

So best solo? No way. 

The post I was responding to was specifically about the gor'gorak. Yes I know destruction psi struggles far more clearing trash.

[Pali]

I've soloed... um... uh... Steel?  Never even met this Gor'gorak so far as I can recall, and some of the others mentioned I've seen once at best.  

 

Was never one to catch the deep hunting parties... even now I still couldn't lead a group around Desolation/Discord or through Gear, hell, even a waltz around Blood would be more trial and error than actual knowledge.  It's funny to think of the parts of this game I still have never seen even after all this time.

[Fool_Hardy]

Lets fix that Pali. I will walk through it with you, and be patient as you figure it out. I remember watching Kelmi learn the clocks, one of the reasons I love that character. I know the player became better during Kelmi's life. 

[mya]

14 hours ago, Chesta6384 said:

I solo whole game with drow invoker

Go solo Arcturian in the Tainted Valley...

[Pali]

1 hour ago, Fool_Hardy said:

Lets fix that Pali. I will walk through it with you, and be patient as you figure it out. I remember watching Kelmi learn the clocks, one of the reasons I love that character. I know the player became better during Kelmi's life. 

The offer is appreciated, but 1) I'm not playing right now and 2) it's not a priority of mine to go deep into such areas, and never has been, else I'd have done it long before now.  I'm happy to go on trips, and I'll poke around areas when I don't have anything better to do, but seeing every room and mob in FL simply isn't on my bucket list.

[Unknown Brother]

3 hours ago, Fool_Hardy said:

Lets fix that Pali. I will walk through it with you, and be patient as you figure it out. I remember watching Kelmi learn the clocks, one of the reasons I love that character. I know the player became better during Kelmi's life. 

Can I come? =) 

I forgot all the end game areas 

[Fool_Hardy]

3 hours ago, Unknown Brother said:

Can I come? =) 

I forgot all the end game areas 

Absolutely. I am not hard to find. Follow my corpses. I will probably be at one of them. LOL

[Chesta6384]

16 hours ago, mya said:

Go solo Arcturian in the Tainted Valley...

I did.   Many times.

[Dale]

Raemus and slandren could do all four factions and gear just us two but there were times we had to sky launcher to safety lol.  And aside from that I soloed just about every mob I could get to alone with Raemus, even travens.  Just takes patience and carefulness

[Lloth]

On 6/23/2017 at 11:29 AM, Fool_Hardy said:

All right I will bite, how did you solo the beast under the Lament? It could be soloed before, but now its stronger, so I just can not do it.

Druid solos it easiest, not counting destruction psi with their easy-mode boss downing.

 

 

On 6/23/2017 at 3:37 PM, Kyzarius said:

 

Ogre Warrior Herald can solo the entire game, and is quickest at it imo.  Only thing that touches it for speed would be an Ogre Ranger (Archer) also herald, but only because they can bypass all of gauntlets with sleepy arrows. 

I was able to get whatever gear I wanted with a Reaver Vampire. 

 

Bards are fastest imho. Gauntlets don't matter, and very low downtime when fighting the big bads. I think my personal best is something going from the ghost to downing Yorick in 8 ticks when re-equpping. I'm sure Trick has a bit faster of a time with Belderon. I'm almost certain there was another bard in Syndicate that did it in 6-7 but I forget the name. Never tried things like vlad or desolation solo, didn't really have any interest, but it was pretty simple to smash up mobs.  

[aaa]

18 minutes ago, Lloth said:

Druid solos it easiest, not counting destruction psi with their easy-mode boss downing.

Talking about druids, what are the chances of changing the shield of thorns nerf to only affect pk and let it work as it previously did versus mobs. 

[Lloth]

Probably won't happen, but then I'm not exactly the one to talk to about potential code changes. Personally, I don't think it's needed. Sure, it's annoying to lose the consistent damage, but at the same time it doesn't do much but make them slower at it. They can still solo pretty much anything with enough preparation and smart foliage timing.

[aaa]

Fair enough, I feel like if anything they lost a bit of flavour with the nerf is all. Changing it to a buff thats essentially kidney shot(which isn't really a unique effect either) just makes them a little less unique or intriguing than before.

[Lloth]

It was that or the damaging circles. Combined, they were just too much passive damage.

[f0xx]

4 hours ago, Lloth said:

It was that or the damaging circles. Combined, they were just too much passive damage.

That's your own opinion.

Druids needed a nerf indeed, but not in such a lazy way.

The two shields were a signature feature that gave druids identity. Now that is gone.

Sad.

[Pali]

What do you think would have been a better nerf?

[Erelei]

I think it’s funny that everyone screams nerf. So the nerf is done. Now everyone screams “but don’t nerf that way!” And they give absolutely no suggestions. “How sad....”

[Trick]

20 minutes ago, Erelei said:

I think it’s funny that everyone screams nerf. So the nerf is done. Now everyone screams “but don’t nerf that way!” And they give absolutely no suggestions. “How sad....”

Lol. Don't get so butt hurt bro.

[Anume]

Ok guys. Warting to you all, stop it. Not productive.

[f0xx]

4 hours ago, Erelei said:

And they give absolutely no suggestions.

 

Where I live, we have a saying, "Don't give suggestions unless you are asked. It's bad manners."

Secondly, what you said is not true.

We've discussed druids on prayer many times. I've myself whined about them A LOT. And while I haven't given any direct suggestions, I've outlined many of their problematic areas. Here is a small quote of this thread.

This posted by Lloth:

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Having two shield attacks is really powerful.

This is my answer:

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I think them having two shields is fine. It's what makes them unique. What bothers me is their high melee offence, their high defence (while dual wielding), their extremely high sustain, their very safe escapes, their ambush potential with treeform and their lag potential with Silvanus trap.

 

[Fool_Hardy]

Forgive me if I am wrong here but it has been a while since I played a druid.

The only thing that bothered me about the druid was the shield of thorns.

It seemed a spin off of divine retribution, in that it could be brought back up in battle, and it damaged the enemy regardless whether the enemy landed a blow.

Fire and Ice shield require you to be hit to do any damage, but the thorns just prick everybody.

The change to me seems backwards, I would have thought keeping the thorns normal pve, and weakening them pvp would have made more sense. (by making them hit sensitive like the other shields)

That said, I do not know what the staff knows, I do not know what the complaints that led to the change were. So I can not fault their judgement.

Druids have survivability, and they can be fairly easily avoided. Seen druids do almost everything, how many druid bounty hunters have their been? 

Pudding people, pudding.

 

[Mali]

The Syndicate bard was Donovan. That was me.

[Anume]

In other words, f0xx, you didn't like them being druids, still gave no direct suggestion on how to balance them better and now disagree with the solution the staff thought best after much discussion.  We're not averse to suggestions, but personally I grow tired at all this aggressiveness towards Erelei, who's the best coder this mud has ever had so far. If you guys finally push him away, I'll be real mad, bc that will probably be the death of us. So, stop this bs. You can disagree in a polite manner without all the barbs and borderline insulting agression. I know that foxx for one, does not really mean to be this aggro but you do come across this way. So reign it in. This also goes out to fireman. Keep it civil you two or I'll forum ban the both of you.

Thanks to the behavior or one of our last avatars (not Ive)  I already have to look for someone else to do avatar apps and take care of Knight. It is not cool to push part of this staff away with your behavior. And it's only human nature to eventually say, what for do I put in all this work if the only thing I ever get as a repayment is complaints and whining, so f*** it, I'll do something else with my time. 

[Trick]

26 minutes ago, Anume said:

In other words, f0xx, you didn't like them being druids, still gave no direct suggestion on how to balance them better and now disagree with the solution the staff thought best after much discussion.  We're not averse to suggestions, but personally I grow tired at all this aggressiveness towards Erelei, who's the best coder this mud has ever had so far. If you guys finally push him away, I'll be real mad, bc that will probably be the death of us. So, stop this bs. You can disagree in a polite manner without all the barbs and borderline insulting agression. I know that foxx for one, does not really mean to be this aggro but you do come across this way. So reign it in. This also goes out to fireman. Keep it civil you two or I'll forum ban the both of you.

Thanks to the behavior or one of our last avatars (not Ive)  I already have to look for someone else to do avatar apps and take care of Knight. It is not cool to push part of this staff away with your behavior. And it's only human nature to eventually say, what for do I put in all this work if the only thing I ever get as a repayment is complaints and whining, so f*** it, I'll do something else with my time. 

As far as the coding goes, I don't think anyone has personally attacked Erelei for the time and energy he's put into it and the majority of us are very thankful and appreciative. Some of us don't agree with the way the Staff corrected an issue.

In the past, Erelei has said that he doesn't need our consent or permission to add a change to the code or the way the game functions. If you're going to take this approach then you can't whine that some players aren't happy with a change you decided to make. Some players are fine with them.

In the past, Erelei has held open discussions on potential changes to the code or the way the game functions. I think it's worked out well this way. The MAJORITY of people were happy with the changes. Downside is it takes more time this way. And some players will still be unhappy/fine.

If you want to make decisions, then accept that not everyone is going to be happy with it. Its part of leadership.

 

The Avatar situation is a separate thing entirely. Not being pleased with the system is not the same as not being pleased with a person. Don't confuse the two. The Staff needs to learn, and anyone in a leadership position, that you can't punish people for your workload - whether it is intentional or not. Its not cool to push part of this player-base away because of your behavior.

Erelei stepping down as IMM of Avatar/Knight is a GOOD thing. It lessens his work load and it appears that he understood that necessity to lighten the load on his shoulders. If he didn't agree, he wouldn't have done it. You can take that negatively if you want, Anume, but I don't. I think its important for someone to understand their time constraints. I advocated that he lower his coding responsibilities so he can actually enjoy the game he works on.