Icor Posted June 18, 2006 Report Share Posted June 18, 2006 Has anyone here seen Munich yet? If so, what did you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fīv Posted June 18, 2006 Report Share Posted June 18, 2006 It was LONG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warpnow Posted June 18, 2006 Report Share Posted June 18, 2006 Long. Pretty good. I liked it. Not, at all, a happy story... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruelEdict Posted June 18, 2006 Report Share Posted June 18, 2006 This movie is not factual. In that, it is simply an appeal to garner further support for Israel, despite them being the more dangerous nation in the Middle East. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celerity Posted June 18, 2006 Report Share Posted June 18, 2006 I had a chance to be in that movie (as an extra)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But...too much work! My friend was telling me that the shots were crazy. I also didn't want to go to Malta.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icor Posted June 19, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2006 I loved it, as usual. Anything Spielberg makes, I fall in love with. That dude is my hero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warpnow Posted June 19, 2006 Report Share Posted June 19, 2006 This movie is not factual. In that' date=' it is simply an appeal to garner further support for Israel, despite them being the more dangerous nation in the Middle East.[/quote'] Have you seen the movie? It doesn't do that at all. Watch it and pay attention. I won't argue further because it would ruin the movie for those who haven't seen it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruelEdict Posted June 19, 2006 Report Share Posted June 19, 2006 I have read plenty of reviews that tear it to shreds because of its total inaccuracy. Mossad does not function that way, Golda Meir was far from the movies portrayel, and there were plenty of other disrepencies. The movie is a long line of Pro-Israel propaganda we have been fed. Plain and simple. Have you seen the movie? It doesn't do that at all. Watch it and pay attention. I won't argue further because it would ruin the movie for those who haven't seen it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chayesh Posted June 19, 2006 Report Share Posted June 19, 2006 Yeah...because there's of course no anti-Israel propaganda in the world. If you look for it, you'll find anti-anything propaganda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruelEdict Posted June 19, 2006 Report Share Posted June 19, 2006 Moot point. My point was specifically an American perspective and there is very little anti-Israel sentiment out there that does not immediately become "Hate" (thanks to the ADL). Anyone with sense should see the negative impact Israel has had on our nation for years. It is this sort of thing that encourages us to keep supporting them as though they are a downtrodden nation when in reality, it is quite the opposite. Yeah...because there's of course no anti-Israel propaganda in the world. If you look for it, you'll find anti-anything propaganda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icor Posted June 19, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2006 Oh for God's sake. What the hell does it matter how accurate the film is; it's entertainment. Spielberg is an artist, and he tried to make a point. The movie was well made, well acted, and well organized. Spielberg never claimed it to be 100% accurate anyway. These negative reviewers need to get a grip and judge movies by cinematic quality, not moral quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruelEdict Posted June 19, 2006 Report Share Posted June 19, 2006 And what point was Spielberg trying to make? We cannot, as a society, allow things to jeopardize our moral foundations. Of course, that is just my stance. I see Israel and their functionaries here (ADL, AIPAC, etc) as direct threats to our nation and this sort of propaganda continues America's blind support for a dangerous "ally". Spielberg is not an artist, he is a spin doctor. Oh for God's sake. What the hell does it matter how accurate the film is; it's entertainment. Spielberg is an artist' date=' and he tried to make a point. The movie was well made, well acted, and well organized. Spielberg never claimed it to be 100% accurate anyway. These negative reviewers need to get a grip and judge movies by cinematic quality, not moral quality.[/quote'] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chayesh Posted June 19, 2006 Report Share Posted June 19, 2006 And I see Israel as our only real ideological ally in the entire region and the only toehold of democracy in an economically vital area. True, we have other "allies" in the region, tied to us basically because of financial co-dependency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malchaeius Posted June 19, 2006 Report Share Posted June 19, 2006 I hate it when threads derail into politics because the majority of you can not handle such a sophisticated topic amicably. My finger will be near the lock button in case this topic gets too out of hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khran Posted June 19, 2006 Report Share Posted June 19, 2006 I Like Russia! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warpnow Posted June 19, 2006 Report Share Posted June 19, 2006 Crueleddict hasn't even see the film. His post is in entire ignorance. It is not pro-Israel. It does not support Israel. It is not -meant- to be factual. It is a conspiracy-theory type movie which is NOT pro-Israel. See the goddam movie then comment. It starts off supporting Israel, it doesn't end that way. I won't say more...I don't want to ruin the movie for him. I personally have no opinion Israel/Palestine. I don't think the US should be involved in the war at all. I like the way the film portrays both sides. EDIT: BTW, Munich is a work of fiction after the first 10ish minutes. It is -not- the story of what happened at Munich, just for those who think it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zrothum Posted June 19, 2006 Report Share Posted June 19, 2006 It's just a movie dude, calm down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icor Posted June 20, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2006 Was the film well acted? Was it well organized? Was it dramatic and captivating? Was it suspenseful or tear jerking? Yes, yes, yes yes yes yes yes. It doesn't matter in the LEAST how historically accurate a movie is. OoOoOooh, Finding Nemo sucked because it was historically inaccurate or politically distasteful. You can’t judge a movie on its political or historical correctness, ESPECIALLY when the creators of the film pointedly announce that their movie isn’t MEANT to be accurate or moral. If you have an opinion on the matter, you’re entirely entitled to it, just like Spielberg is entitled to his. What, does the fact that Spielberg has the money and the power to express his opinion with cinematic splendor threaten these politically insecure numbskulls on whatever website it is they’re posting their reviewing? Common! I favor cinematography, no matter how edgy a plotline is. Munich was excellently made, period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zrothum Posted June 20, 2006 Report Share Posted June 20, 2006 This has really gone sour. As controversial as some of the things CruelEdict has posted, he's never once singled any solitary group (well maybe the general american public) or website as being "numbskulls" or their writings "entire ignorance" if the guy is entitled to his opinion, let him have it, and debate it in a civil and level-headed manner, as he has done you all. And CruelEdict...it's long been said that this forum is not keen on political fiascos. We have a wide variety of races, religions, and ethnic backgrounds here. It's quite simply not the place to discuss these things. Just my .02 as I peruse the forum for the last minutes of my conscious day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icor Posted June 20, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2006 People tend to speak boldly when their opinions are bold. Anyway, I liked the film. I hope Spielberg continues to experiment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zrothum Posted June 20, 2006 Report Share Posted June 20, 2006 I'm all about standing up for what you believe in, don't get me wrong...just with all the rules and whatnot we have here on the forum...this isn't the place to get into such controversial issues such as the Middle East lol. I haven't seen the movie...but now i think I just might have to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icor Posted June 20, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2006 It's long. Lots of edgy parts. It has a good story though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chayesh Posted June 20, 2006 Report Share Posted June 20, 2006 I just got a kick out of the statement that the movie was "Pro-Israel". I highly doubt it was pro-Israel, per se. I would say pro-Jewish. Not necessarily the same thing. Additionally, what happened to them in Munich in 72 was messed up. I also like how CE said it like it was a revelation. Spielberg is from known Jewish heritage. Saying he's pro-Jewish or pro-Israel is about as revelatory as saying fish are pro-water. Not bashing you, CE, just found it amusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruelEdict Posted June 20, 2006 Report Share Posted June 20, 2006 How is Israel an ally? At the bare minimum, they have sold our technological secrets to China and attacked and killed American servicemen under the guise of another nation. The ideological gap is immense as well - take a look at the Talmud, for instance. They are a dangerous, aggressive nation that turned every other nation in the Middle East against us (for the most part). We have suffered an awful lot at the hands of that tiny nation carved out of Palestine and I find it tragic they garner so much support in the US -- which is directly linked to the media that endlessly promotes Israel and is never really critical of its actions, no matter how horrible. No, I haven't seen the movie. That does not mean a thing - I work at a movie store and know plenty of people who have seen it, not to mention the review I read was written by a man who was there and knows how Israel conducts its revenge against Arab retaliation for the Israeli oppression of their people (namely, how it disperses its international murder squads). Zroth, I don't see it as sour. As has been said, on this forum, everyone is permitted their own opinion. I was simply voicing my dislike of current American foreign policy and how much power and control a foreign group has in our own nation. And I see Israel as our only real ideological ally in the entire region and the only toehold of democracy in an economically vital area. True, we have other "allies" in the region, tied to us basically because of financial co-dependency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malchaeius Posted June 20, 2006 Report Share Posted June 20, 2006 I am sorry, but forming your opinion before watching the movie, simply based on other people's biased reviews is pretty ignorant. I do not mean ignorant in the pejorative manner, but ignorant as in lacking knowledge. I am not telling you to like it or dislike it, but you should at least form your own opinions by watching the move and not letting others dictate your thought functions. Personally, I have no opinion on the movie from being ignorant of the topic myself, but considering how controversial it sounds, I may just have to rent a copy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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