Hornecka vs Kotrag!

[Anonymous]

Expecting the fight, waiting for the fight, got the fight...

I was at the cove in the ford, got the 5 second til tick countdown and nobody around. Laid down and he was on me out of nowhere.

You yell 'Help! I am being attacked by Kotrag!'
dirt
You deftly block the missiles with your weapon.
A shadowy blade launcher's poisoned bite misses you.
You parry Kotrag's attack.
You dodge Kotrag's attack.
You parry Kotrag's attack.
You dodge Kotrag's attack.
You parry Kotrag's attack.
Kotrag's life drain DISMEMBERS you!
Kotrag's tsuki strike mauls you.
Kotrag throws his shurikens and hits you with a mass of them.
Kotrag's throw === DISINTEGRATES === you!
Huh?
Kotrag is in excellent condition.

Hornecka: [===|===|===|=--]
940/1226hp 468/526mm 211/442mv (47809 gold) (2368 cps) 15'oclock Your kicked dirt misses Kotrag.              WELL THATS GONNA SUCK...
Kotrag is in excellent condition.

Hornecka: [===|===|===|=--]
940/1226hp 468/526mm 211/442mv (47809 gold) (2368 cps) 15'oclock stance               LETS TRY THIS

Kotrag's life drain MASSACRES you!
You dodge Kotrag's attack.
You dodge Kotrag's attack.
You parry Kotrag's attack.
Kotrag's throat cut grazes you.
With a deft slice Kotrag gores your throat!
You dodge Kotrag's attack.
Kotrag's tsuki strike MUTILATES you!
Kotrag's blood loss scratches you.
You sure are BLEEDING!
Kotrag blocks your attack with his weapon.
Your acidic bite devastates Kotrag!
Your fury misses Kotrag.
Kotrag is shocked by the lightning from the Master Forgeman's Great Hammer adorned with a starshard.
Your shocking bite hits Kotrag.
Kotrag is shocked by the lightning from "Ssluthril" the Axe of the Leviathain's Passing adorned with a starshard.
Kotrag has been stunned by the shock!
Your shocking bite hits Kotrag.
"Ssluthril" the Axe of the Leviathain's Passing adorned with a starshard burns Kotrag with corrosive acid.
Your acidic bite scratches Kotrag.
You feel a rush of endorphins, numbing your pain.
Kotrag has a few scratches.

Hornecka: [===|===|==-|---]
818/1226hp 471/526mm 211/442mv (47809 gold) (2368 cps) 15'oclock dirt

You deftly block the missiles with your weapon.
A shadowy blade launcher's poisoned bite misses you.
Kotrag's life drain MASSACRES you!
Kotrag's life drain DISMEMBERS you!
Kotrag's life drain DISMEMBERS you!
You dodge Kotrag's attack.
Kotrag's form blurs with speed!
You are blinded!
Someone's strike grazes you.
Someone's life drain MASSACRES you!
Someone's tsuki strike injures you.
Someone's blood loss scratches you.
You sure are BLEEDING!
Someone blocks your attack with his weapon.
Someone dodges your attack.
Someone blocks your attack with his weapon.
Someone is shocked by the lightning from something.
Your shocking bite hits someone.
Someone is shocked by the lightning from something.
Your shocking bite grazes someone.
Something burns someone with corrosive acid.
Your acidic bite scratches someone.
A surge of fear induced power begins coursing through your veins.
You feel a rush of endorphins, numbing your pain.

Hornecka: [===|===|---|---]
524/1226hp 475/526mm 211/442mv (47809 gold) (2368 cps) 15'oclock
Someone throws a handful of sharp spikes at your feet!
You start to limp.
Someone's caltraps maim you!

Hornecka: [===|==-|---|---]
491/1226hp 475/526mm 211/442mv (47809 gold) (2368 cps) 15'oclock You drop into a combat stance.        YAY!

Hornecka: [===|==-|---|---]
491/1226hp 450/526mm 211/442mv (47809 gold) (2368 cps) 15'oclock
Someone's life drain maims you!
Someone's life drain devastates you!
You parry someone's attack.
You parry someone's attack.
Someone's form blurs with speed!
Someone's strike grazes you.
Someone's tsuki strike mauls you.
Someone's blood loss scratches you.
You sure are BLEEDING!
Someone parries your attack.
Someone dodges your attack.
Someone blocks your attack with his weapon.
Someone parries your attack.
Someone parries your attack.
Someone parries your attack.
Someone is shocked by the lightning from something.
Your shocking bite grazes someone.
Someone is shocked by the lightning from something.
Your shocking bite grazes someone.
Something burns someone with corrosive acid.
Your acidic bite scratches someone.
You feel a rush of endorphins, numbing your pain.

Hornecka: [===|=--|---|---]
398/1226hp 453/526mm 211/442mv (47809 gold) (2368 cps) 15'oclock Your kicked dirt misses someone.                TRYING TO BIDE SOME TIME..... NOPE.

Hornecka: [===|=--|---|---]
398/1226hp 453/526mm 211/442mv (47809 gold) (2368 cps) 15'oclock eat eye

You deftly block the missiles with your weapon.
Something's poisoned bite misses you.
You dodge someone's attack.
Someone's life drain mauls you.
You dodge someone's attack.
You parry someone's attack.
Someone's form blurs with speed!
Sharp pain explodes in your leg!
Someone's strike grazes you.
You dodge someone's attack.
Someone's tsuki strike mauls you.
Someone's blood loss scratches you.
You sure are BLEEDING!
Someone parries your attack.
Your fury misses someone.
Someone parries your attack.
Someone parries your attack.
Your acidic bite misses someone.
Someone is shocked by the lightning from something.
Your shocking bite hits someone.
Something burns someone with corrosive acid.
Your acidic bite scratches someone.

Hornecka: [===|=--|---|---]
343/1226hp 453/526mm 185/442mv (47809 gold) (2368 cps) 15'oclock
You can't see a thing!
Someone's palm strike scratches you.
Catching you off balance and unprepared someone sends you sprawling with a forcefull push!

341/1226hp 453/526mm 184/442mv (47809 gold) (2368 cps) 15'oclock TICK IN 5 SECONDS.

You yell 'Help! I am being attacked by someone!'
You deftly block the missiles with your weapon.
Something's poisoned bite misses you.
Someone's life drain misses you.
Someone's life drain maims you!
Someone's life drain devastates you!
You sure are BLEEDING!
Someone's life drain devastates you!
You sure are BLEEDING!
You parry someone's attack.
Someone's tsuki strike hits you.
You sure are BLEEDING!
Someone throws his something and hits you with several of them.
Someone's throw MASSACRES you!
You sure are BLEEDING!
You parry someone's attack.
You parry someone's attack.
You dodge someone's attack.
Someone's form blurs with speed!
Sharp pain explodes in your leg!
Someone's strike hits you.
You sure are BLEEDING!
Someone's life drain MUTILATES you!
You sure are BLEEDING!
Someone's tsuki strike mauls you.
You sure are BLEEDING!
Someone's blood loss scratches you.
You sure are BLEEDING!
Someone parries your attack.
Someone parries your attack.
Someone blocks your attack with his weapon.
Someone parries your attack.
Someone dodges your attack.
Someone is shocked by the lightning from something.
Your shocking bite hits someone.
You feel a rush of endorphins, numbing your pain.

Hornecka: [=--|---|---|---]
88/1226hp 454/526mm 149/442mv (47809 gold) (2368 cps) 15'oclock You eat a bloodwolf's eye.           NO POINT IN FLEEING IF I CANT SEE
You failed to cure your blindness.

Hornecka: [=--|---|---|---]
88/1226hp 454/526mm 149/442mv (47809 gold) (2368 cps) 15'oclock eat eye
You eat a bloodwolf's eye.
You can see again.
Kotrag has a few scratches.

Hornecka: [=--|---|---|---]
88/1226hp 454/526mm 149/442mv (47809 gold) (2368 cps) 15'oclock
You deftly block the missiles with your weapon.
A shadowy blade launcher's poisoned bite misses you.
You dodge Kotrag's attack.
Kotrag's life drain maims you!
You sure are BLEEDING!
Kotrag's life drain decimates you!
You sure are BLEEDING!
Kotrag's life drain MUTILATES you!
You have been KILLED!!

As the cold chill of death descends upon you Tongar grants you yet another chance.
You have been granted a temporary sanctuary as an invincible ghost.
As long as you don't attack anything.
Your vision returned you manage to calm down.
You manage to completely halt your bleeding.

DUAL WIELDING AXES 50+HIT, 70+DAM, NO RAGE TO KEEP DODGE, SEVEN ROUNDS OF COMBAT AND I LANDED A WHOPPING 1 HIT 'Your acidic bite devastates Kotrag!'.

MORAL OF THE STORY, JUST LOG OUT, LOL

Anonymous poster hash: 84dcf...2cb

[Anonymous]

OH, AND MY PARRY WAS 110% WHILE DODGE WAS AT 103%

Anonymous poster hash: 84dcf...2cb

[Kyzarius]

Did you dirt there before stancing?

[Trick]

Berserkers are TERRIBLE. When are people gonna learn? The only path of success for a berserker is FG Reaver only because FG and Reaver go so well..

Besides that, you were caught with your pants down. I woulda chilled in the cabal and made him attack it, then stanced and came out. You know what went wrong and it wasn't the fact that you didnt log out, lol.

Kotrag is a melee ninja. Is Syndicate Leader. Has more bling than Liberace. Why on earth would you dual wield vs him? FUUCK that. I'd have worn the blazing bardiche. You'll have dodge, parry, and weapon block as well as dealing fire damage vs a feral AND he doesn't know polearm. Yep. That'd be my angle 100%.

Dirt kicking at the start was bad idea. And fleeing would have been an even worse idea. Another disintegrate woulda sucked more than that round. Shoulda just stanced up then maybe fled or dirt kicked.

Sorry bud, you n00bed it. Happens to all of us.

[mya]

If you are not PKing, don't dual wield two offensive weapons. Wield a cursed polearm/staff. The textbook reason why, is this log. Surprise PK. You got caught with no sanctuary, blind, dual wielding the worst defence weapons vs an extremely decked Leader.
I would have stanced, raged and haymakered him. Or probably not...

 

[Anonymous]

I normally would have stanced first but he jumped me sooo fast, literally i did a 'where' and the ford was empty, laid down and he was on me. The dirt kicking was to create space and reset, just straight fleeing would have had me eating a throw and then a murder throw. Against any other class I would have fled.

I would have loved to have a bardiche , got one? lol

I always go into a fight dual wielding axes just to compare damage output, if im losing i always flee and wield up a good polearm. Two failed dirt kicks was my downfall, not that it would have made me win but it would have given me a chance to regroup, reweapon and reengage.

*Hornecka*

Anonymous poster hash: 84dcf...2cb

[Magick]

5 minutes ago, Anonymous said:

I normally would have stanced first but he jumped me sooo fast, literally i did a 'where' and the ford was empty, laid down and he was on me.

Lots of places to hide in the Ford.  Depending on where you were, he could have literally been standing next to you waiting for you to do what you just did.

[Anonymous]

10 minutes ago, mya said:

If you are not PKing, don't dual wield two offensive weapons. Wield a cursed polearm/staff. The textbook reason why, is this log. Surprise PK. You got caught with no sanctuary, blind, dual wielding the worst defence weapons vs an extremely decked Leader.
I would have stanced, raged and haymakered him. Or probably not...

 

These are just my observations but:

1. I 'miss' more while raged, also more of my attacks get dodged and parried, sure when one hits its harder but the loss of defense isnt worth it. In all reality I can only rage against mages OR underdressed melee classes. Also with rage its the KEY for successful haymakers, cleaves and headbutts.

2. Haymaker doesnt work. Its one of those skills that sounds like a great idea vs a tough opponent when in all reality ive only ever landed it on underdressed opponents whom im already beating. The fact that if I have time to think about attempting a haymaker means I dont need to do it, im already winning. Since raging against a tough opponent is always a death sentence even attempting haymaker would be laglocking myself, haha.

*Hornecka*

Anonymous poster hash: 84dcf...2cb

[Anonymous]

13 minutes ago, Magick said:

Lots of places to hide in the Ford.  Depending on where you were, he could have literally been standing next to you waiting for you to do what you just did.

Nope, I left him in Banor and ran straight to the cove. The reason i picked the cove was that its deep enough into the ford that I should have been able to get away with the 'where' / tick catch he wasnt there. Hes soo fast, I swear he has got to be getting twice my ping! haha

Anonymous poster hash: 84dcf...2cb

[Lloth]

Basic weapon selection could have saved your life. Never dual wield, especially heavy offense/low defense weapons, against anyone better dressed and/or more proficient than you. As stated, the blazing bardiche should have been your choice. Losing your most reliable defense and a vuln hitting weapon is not worth getting a few extra attacks. Tactics should not end at hit/dam counting.

[Rygothran]

While I agree that he should have been wearing a polearm if he even thought he was going to fight Kotrag, the circumstances surrounded their fights may not have lent time to grab one if it was even available. If you plan to fight Kotrag quite a bit then you may be on the lookout though.

Stance/santuary should always be the FIRST thing you do if you are not already in it or if it falls. While you wouldn't have been able to keep fighting you may have at least escaped and lived.

I personally would have fled north to my cabal guardian, ate the throw, immediately stanced, and assessed the mess from there.

[Anonymous]

Sorry for butting in, but what exactly is a blazing bardiche and where would I get my hands on one? Always in need of decent polearms myself.

- Ialantha

Anonymous poster hash: 311a5...e69

[Lloth]

It is a berserker polearm. Fire damage.

[Magick]

Object 'blazing bardiche' is type weapon, material mystic.
Extra flags: nodrop bless noremove.
Weight is 35, value is 2, level is 50.
Weapon type is two-handed polearm.
Damage is 4d12 (average 26).
Affects polearm by 3.
Affects hitroll by 2.
Affects haymaker by 2.
Affects weapon cleave by 5.
Affects str by -1.
You have a feeling only a berserker can use it.
Unique item.

The towering Archon rises above the area, a formidable beacon of order
summoned as the Bonseer's Rift threatened to rend the threads of reality
asunder.  Nobody has managed to dissuade the being from its constant
patrols, even though, the city has been largely rebuilt.  Perhaps nobody
even tried very hard, as the citizens have become used to this most
extraordinary being and have grown rather fond of it.  The incorporeal being
shimmers and undulates like a half-remembered dream, though the blazing
weapon in it's grip remains solid, held at the ready in the event justice
has need to be served.  
Phaezian, the Timeless Archon is in excellent condition.

Phaezian, the Timeless Archon is using:
<wielded>              a blazing bardiche

(Maelbrim)

[Manual Labour]

Sorry Lala, it's a berserker item only. Easy to find though if it's in, ask in game. (nevermind, you got your answers above hehe)

This is a terrible example to use to make any point, you were down to 40% hp before you got into your stance.

Missing dirt kicks is pretty annoying, but that's part of the price of playing a low dex race vs a high dex race with probably very good AC.

110% Parry is not gonna get you far when blind and wielding an axe.

103% dodge is not that great, especially as a low dex race.

Also didn't help you that he got a double round after the push/murder.

Bad luck & bad prep on your part, it could have been much closer.

[Magick]

1 minute ago, Manual Labour said:

Easy to find though if it's in, ask in game. (nevermind, you got your answers above hehe)

If you know, tell, please.  We as a community, need to get out of the habit of "ask in game" for questions that can easily be answered through this medium.  If it's not a quest item, lay it all out on the table.  Thanks! 

[aaa]

Push needs more lag on the user. 

[Ali_gmud]

Seems a little trivial or maybe I'm blind/noob, but did he even collect you? 

[Anonymous]

53 minutes ago, Ali_gmud said:

Seems a little trivial or maybe I'm blind/noob, but did he even collect you? 

I called on him to fight to make up for the raping I got while outcasted and grunted, I caught the tick to rest my feet where I only had about 150 moves and he was on me within the 2-3 seconds I slept. 

Anonymous poster hash: 84dcf...2cb

[Dale]

Doesn't look like a collection to me.

 

When pk starts off like that you flee.   Take another murder command if you have to just get out and readjust.

[Erelei]

Quality shitpost. 

[Atticus]

Learned one time from fighting Kotrag. If you Do..... just leave it all out on the field. Getting him past quite a few is a win for me. 

[Aidon]

31 minutes ago, Atticus said:

Learned one time from fighting Kotrag. If you Do..... just leave it all out on the field. Getting him past quite a few is a win for me. 

Hah, yeah, I remember the time I got Thulgan to pretty hurt...way more impressive than any of my wins. I was actually really happy because I got to briefly imagine that there was a chance I would one day kill Thulgan. That feeling is worth more than full adeptus. 

[Tantangel]

You also have to realize that despite the fact that he can hide and travel through a good portion of the Ford without being seen, he's also a part of  Cabal meant to be hard to track and see whether that's coming or going. You sleeping and his subsequent attack may have seemed fast, but in 2-3 seconds it's impossible to move from the entrance to the Ford to the Cove. Unless he was connected directly into the game and 0 lag of any kind. It's more plausible that he was either hidden or something else from sight and you just didn't catch it at that moment because you were anticipating being able to get a tick of sleep in without repercussions. Having fought him before and called him out because I was bountied and knew he'd come for me, he didn't move all that quickly through the area at all. He was incredibly fast, I'll give him that, but it took him a good 15-20 seconds before he got to me. I don't know who plays him, but I'd say he's pretty skilled. You can't completely rely on just one weapon type to win your fight though. An Axe may be what you specialize in, but you shouldn't make it your go to weapon for him. I've learned to avoid him at all costs if I'm bountied, and that includes logging off. I'd rather not play the game and live than go in knowing I'll die. I've held my own against him once decently well, and nailed him hard with a few good shots, but that's about where it left off.

If you're intent on specifically fighting him, I'd say try and get your hands on some fiery weapons. You're more limited than a Warrior, but don't think the perk to high hit/dam will win you that fight. Your one attack hit for a decent amount of damage through protections he has. You spent a portion of the fight completely vulnerable and it shows. The stance was essentially a bit too little too late. Always stance if he lands the first hit. It would've been better than the dirt. It's a painful log to look at because I've seen what he can do. For the future though I'd keep my eyes open longer if you're going to call him out or have a bounty. Just because you don't see him on 'where' doesn't mean he's not there. Assume he's always nearby and watching. As far as the bardiche goes though, don't bank on it. There's two of them, and I doubt you'll get your hands on it anytime soon unless you decide to go the route of bountying the people who do have it. Don't be discouraged or feel that the class is overpowered, the player has overcome a few tweaks already that have weakened him and it really has proven that he's more skilled than some may have thought.

[Trick]

Are you trusted? I bet a solar mace Armageddon smash would feel nice... 😛