Implementor Anume Posted December 10, 2017 Implementor Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 I don't know about you, but I never had problems on my bard with casters / communers. What scared me were well played serks. If you have some logs where you get owned by a caster or communer, please post them on prayer and we will reevaluate the situation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trick Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 Well, I am thinking ahead. Your bards were played when instruments weren't changed, maintain wasn't changed, you had third attack, dissonance didn't break your weapon, and you could refrain four seasons. Its different now though, isn't it? Being reactive is what gets us in trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manual Labour Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 @Fool_Hardybards playing sheathed instruments.... I dunno man. Also does anyone find it odd that a bard can mal you with songs while you are sleeping? The positive affect bard songs dont work on sleeping allies... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trick Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 10 minutes ago, Manual Labour said: Also does anyone find it odd that a bard can mal you with songs while you are sleeping? The positive affect bard songs dont work on sleeping allies... Same way people listen to cassettes to stop smoking, be stress-free, motivate themselves, or anything else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 Question is why can't bards charm you into removing your eq? And I think they should get boosted when fighting the opposite sex. Also they should get bardic immunity. Journey Quest! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaa Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 2 hours ago, Dale said: Question is why can't bards charm you into removing your eq? People think pry is already too much, can you imagine the out pour of salt if this was introduced? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magick Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 3 hours ago, Dale said: And I think they should get boosted when fighting the opposite sex Did you just assume their sexual orientation? 20 minutes ago, Wade said: People think pry is already too much, can you imagine the out pour of salt if this was reintroduced? Fixed that for you. DK's used to be able to order you to strip. Made for a bad time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manual Labour Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 8 hours ago, Fireman said: Same way people listen to cassettes to stop smoking, be stress-free, motivate themselves, or anything else? I'm just questioning consistency. Why can we only hear negative songs in our sleep and not positive ones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 Skill: Attract - only affects opposite sex and removes the ability for them to initiate combat with you. Song: Lustful Heartbeat - Makes the opposite sex's adrenaline rush and as long as you are on they can not quit. I really think these two skills, along with enhanced damage vs opposite sex and maybe an extra attack? Also what dks could do, give it to bards. And yes to what ever you meant Magick . Skill - Big finale - smash your instrument over your opponents head so hard it knocks them out, but breaks your instrument. Song - Dance Dance Crazy Fun - Makes your opponent dance so they can't flee from combat - You try to flee but this is your song and you can't stop dancing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 Can you tell I rolled a bard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rygothran Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 Are you playing a bard or Rockband, @Dale? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 Why do all these squares make a circle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trick Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 2 hours ago, Manual Labour said: I'm just questioning consistency. Why can we only hear negative songs in our sleep and not positive ones? Iunno.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f0xx Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 3 hours ago, Manual Labour said: I'm just questioning consistency. We follow the consistency of being incosistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trick Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 1 minute ago, f0xx said: We follow the consistency of being incosistent. What's life without whimsy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trick Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 I'm curious about the change to materials. How intense is the nerf to weapons going to be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Implementor Erelei Posted December 10, 2017 Author Implementor Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 This won't be a nerf to weapons. Weapons will become more of a utility than a brunt force object like they have been. More ways to make weapons, better ways to craft them. I likely won't be done until after the new years, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trick Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 14 minutes ago, Erelei said: This won't be a nerf to weapons. Weapons will become more of a utility than a brunt force object like they have been. More ways to make weapons, better ways to craft them. I likely won't be done until after the new years, though. Interesting.. I wonder how that will balance out with the loss of third attack. Also, for those of us that have the current bard weapons, will we be losing them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fool_Hardy Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 Some of my bards would give their instruments up .as it fits their RP to be amiable. Others will require someone to pry from my cold dead hands. Why? Think about the time investment. I have some bards with 5 weapons made of five, level 5 materials. I have spent thousands of hours across them gathering materials. Seems there should be a trade off, you know like the government buying illegal guns from criminals to get them off the streets. Make me an offer from the heavens, or make the mortals kill me and sacrifice my beautiful creations. But do not expect me to smile nicely and thank you kindly for intentionally belittling my long term investment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trick Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 1 minute ago, Fool_Hardy said: Some of my bards would give their instruments up .as it fits their RP to be amiable. Others will require someone to pry from my cold dead hands. Why? Think about the time investment. I have some bards with 5 weapons made of five, level 5 materials. I have spent thousands of hours across them gathering materials. Seems there should be a trade off, you know like the government buying illegal guns from criminals to get them off the streets. Make me an offer from the heavens, or make the mortals kill me and sacrifice my beautiful creations. But do not expect me to smile nicely and thank you kindly for intentionally belittling my long term investment. My worry isn't so much that I'm losing time invested, but that bards are going to receive so many nerfs that the class is going to be unplayable. Third attack, four seasons, and dissonance are all HUGE hits to damage output. Instruments are now being revamped to be less damage and more "utility". I don't know what utility means, but I can tell you that it doesn't sound good for damage output. Speculation is all we got, so I'm trying not to jump the gun before anything is finished, but it makes me nervous that bards are going to lose all their damage output. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fool_Hardy Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 ahh Haha. Again we play them differently. I am worried we lose defense. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trick Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 Just now, Fool_Hardy said: ahh Haha. Again we play them differently. I am worried we lose defense. LOL If echoed voices would ever land I'd say we don't need to worry about defenses, but since the song is just as horrible as its ever been, we can't afford to take any hits to defense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egreir Posted December 11, 2017 Report Share Posted December 11, 2017 Wish there was half as much feedback/interest in #makingbattlemagesgreatagain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trick Posted December 11, 2017 Report Share Posted December 11, 2017 1 hour ago, egreir said: Wish there was half as much feedback/interest in #makingbattlemagesgreatagain There isn’t a BMG currently killing everyone... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tantangel Posted December 11, 2017 Report Share Posted December 11, 2017 There is a thread for it that generated interest in one of the subforums. And few people would want to talk about how to beef a class up as they would in toning them down. The only people who are usually for promoting change in a class to make them stronger and more playable to others is the people who truly love those classes. The people who believe classes should be toned down are typically the people who are getting their asses handed to them repeatedly and very easily, or at the least feel like it was done so. It doesn't stop you from participating in that discussion though or even creating another thread altogether either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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