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[Tantangel]

2 hours ago, Fool_Hardy said:

Bills all caught up, but it's 400 dollars a day, and sooner or later this Trump economy will falter.

I need to take advantage.

Are you guys hiring? 😛

[Fool_Hardy]

Derailed this thread enough. But yes. Small town America, the people who have been here longer than me, had too much lead in the water where they grew up. Would not let most of them check my oil, let alone troubleshoot a mechanical issue.

[Imoutgoodbye]

On 7/1/2018 at 8:59 PM, Rygothran said:

On 7/1/2018 at 10:53 AM, Mali said:

Valek, I'm not sure if you realize it, but your exit, delete, or taking a break posts are very aggressive to players here and the tone is both reactionary and accusatory. I'm asking you to take a step back and play it cool in your communications to other players and staff here, and to try to develop positive relationships. It sounds like you have a lot on your plate and are sorting things out. However, that is no reason to lash out in a public way that harms us all.  Keep your head up and eyes forward!

Furthermore, the original poster is out of his damn mind. The role play is weak and sad? No. The role play is better than it has been since I played even if there are still a few people who aren't great or do not give effort towards it.

Heard I missed a few things, so, I guess i'll give my "one last shot".

I did not call anyone out except good aligned characters, nothing specific.  I do not get to see whatever it is the IMMS get to see because I don't have access to notes and apps and whatever else it is they go off of; all I get is my experience.  IDK.  Maybe I'm holding people to too high of a standard or a standard that simply does not exist in a "Capture the Flag and Lands" system.  I'm not asking for forgiveness and you better believe I'm not sorry.  I'm certainly not getting into a pissing contest over what has and has not caused harm, who works hard and who doesn't, who does cause harm and who doesn't...

What I experienced was weak and sad during Siejero's last two weeks and did nothing to make my time feel fulfilling, especially with such a low playerbase count...  No one is pinning any of that on my conclusions for leaving.  It's nothing more than that.  

I have nothing on my plate except what I chose to put there.  I would never use that as an excuse and I don't expect anyone else to present it for me that way, either.  

As for out of my mind...call it what you want, but this place is yours.  Improve it mechanically all day.  PK > RP.  You know why?  The damned RP system is broken!  People talk about it like it's a way to get better equipment for PK, pump out journals for RP points to get that PK edge!  That's not what it was supposed to be and I know it because I was there in its early stages!  

So, do whatever it is you think you have to do or say whatever it is you have to say.  I'm done.  I was gone TWO years last time, happily gone, until someone convinced me how cool and amazing it still was.  No, no it's not, not in my eyes.  It's a game and I get to weigh and judge it based on my experiences.  

[Tantangel]

Take this from someone who plays primarily RP based characters and not PK based characters. It has improved immensely, but you've also managed to find a time in which you play where RP is at its very lowest point too. By this I don't mean that people are lacking in it, just that every so often people tend roll characters that have far less outward RP characters and more PK oriented ones instead. I've gotten to the point at times when there's high level of RP that I want to just play a non RP character just for the sake I didn't want to deal with listening to everyone else and their stories. Unfortunately though RP is more outward at lower levels than at higher levels in most cases. That is in part due to the fact that people sit at 30 for qraces and in some cases they RP only and PK very seldom. The Help Files for them say a kill is required, but that's not always the case, so that's a pretty big change on things that at one point in time without at least multiple kills you'd be sitting at 30 for weeks before being denied or approved. I don't see you trying to push Good aligned characters to show more conviction to their alignment as being a bad thing though. Higher standards, probably, but I've also done the same towards other alignments in the past, but I also know to not take things at face value. We've had tremendous RP come from people that would normally be seen as an instant denial for a character because of how they're playing with that specific Race/Class/Ethos combination. The most recent addition to Hall of Fame is a very good example despite the spelling errors of it. It's your right to not want to play though as it is your time. I've taken many breaks in the past, and I've gone longer than 2 years before as well. It's nice and relaxing and honestly I myself feel one coming soon more than likely. I'm not going to point fingers at anyone since it's literally becoming my overall lack of interest in something I still have a lot of interest in which is odd to say.

PK unfortunately is always going to be a huge thing here. You can't get around it. If you don't want to be involved in it, you're most likely going to want to be a Moderate and dress in shambles practically. Adding new armor only means it is aimed at the PK side of things, but I also don't feel that you may have used your own RP to your full advantage either. You  were showing a lot of promise with the character and I found them interesting. Prior to that the only characters I really saw breathe life into Herald was Grebit and Eallyrl  recently and now with both of those players taking a break of their own to some degree, it sits idle until someone else can do the same. Acele is another great example as to how RP can far outshine PK any day, but the issue with RP is that not everyone agrees on it, and more people are happier with PK than they are the RP due to their views of such things. In your case I think you may have been expecting far too much from a game that is still very limiting in many aspects though. I highly doubt this game will ever be on par with your expectations of RP either because of the preconceived notions you have for RP and that is fine, but it also means you'll never be happy here because of it. I'm not saying that's a bad thing, but the truth is that we see only what we want to see. Would it be nice to read other people's journals? Probably because it helps people further their own imagination for the future. Am I always excited to log in each day? No. In fact it fluctuates. In most cases I log on out of the need to even on characters I once enjoyed because of how people act both IG and here. You could have also decided to choose to not log into the discord chat. I haven't even tried because I have found that speaking to most people outside of the game only serves to give me reason not to play. Instead I decided to make a clear run of not reaching out like I used to when playing and that kept the interest going for quite some time on both returns when I started doing that. Up until  about 8 or 9 months ago, I didn't even speak to anyone outside of the game with the exception of four people I PMed for advice on.

One of the biggest downsides to playing any game is that it takes a lot of time and sometimes we can easily lose track of that said time. This game can suck a lot of that time away from you and if that time is spent not being enjoyed it feels like it's more of an obligation than anything else. That is most likely what you're experiencing here based off of what you've stated so far. RP rewards didn't need to specifically go towards PK bonuses either. I think in this aspect you are thinking narrowly into a PK side of the game. Yes, all of the edges pretty much help you more in the direction of PK, but you forget that some people actually use their RP points towards  more RP oriented skills via application or some other thing. Also you can apply for a world plot, though I'm still curious as to what all that entails considering I've never had any comments on my own thoughts of a possible RP plot. It could be that it's too broad and they're looking for a more succinct positioning. There are many things you can do though with those points that is not PK specific. I seem to recall Mya saying they got counterfeit for 60RP points as an example. Another main point though is that you don't see a characters RP completely in such a short period of time that you decided to come back for. Like people, each character reveals themselves differently to others based on who they are as an example. To say that the RP isn't there because you didn't see it immediately is the equivalent to saying you couldn't tolerate anyone in your graduating class because they didn't reveal their life story to you in the time you spent with them. My best friend for instance has known me for over 20 years, and even they don't know everything about me, nor will they ever know. Forcing others to reveal themselves to you because you want to see their RP and judge it on your own personal bias is rather asinine as well. You don't need to approve of people's RP, you only really have to focus on your own. To choose to be only fulfilled through others RP though is something you yourself seem to be the deciding factor as how you enjoy the game. Knowing that you'll probably never come back because of your lack of enjoyment due to such factors isn't surprising, but perhaps in the off chance you do decide to give it another go at some point, I'd suggest the following.

* RP something you want to see come to life. If you focus on your RP no one else really matters, your enjoyment comes from the character, not other people. Something we all come to learn at some point in our own lives

* Don't judge others RP. Unless you rolled up a character with someone and you both live a long time, chances are you still wouldn't know them as a character completely. Just like friends IRL.

* RP out of the box. You don't need to be in Herald to RP. You could easily go into any other Cabal, and who knows, you may find a combination that you enjoy more than you've limited yourself to.

* Learn to PK. Yeah, it's not everyone's favorite thing, but PK brings in new depth and even an added layer to RP that you yourself fail to notice.

* Go with the flow. You seem to have a lot of angst due to preconceived notions you have that hinder you from enjoying the game to its fullest potential. You don't have to agree with everything. If you are, something is wrong.

* RP to change something. That can be a Cabal, a Character, or even just an area if you so wanted to. Don't limit yourself in this area because you yourself don't believe in it. Our Characters do not need to represent ourselves to be successful.

* Your issues are not your Characters issues. Although great RP can be drafted by incorporating yourself into your character in small doses, it doesn't mean they should embody you in ever way.

* Play at different times. If you specifically play during a set period of time, you're setting yourself up for disappointment. Sure you'll find the sweet spot for relative safety if you're not wanting to PK, but you're also setting yourself up for RP failure for the same reason. I've had enemies that were so well played I had a hard time hating them for it. If you constantly just quit out, you're doing yourself more harm than good since you are refusing to see the RP that is involved in the enemy by doing so.

Ultimately the choice is yours though. I get a lot of the whole TL:DR messages either in PM or via a reply on a thread and to be honest it doesn't phase me too much. I don't need to be on the forum in order to enjoy the game either. I've got my imagination to help me keep interest in my characters and their RP. The part that drags it down though is when I'm just bored which is maybe where you're at too and not just hostility like you seem to be emanating in general. Something I like to point out to people is the fact that the reason why we stick with something is due to sentimentality of them. If an ex for instance comes back into your life we remember the good times and seldom the bad times. Which is why we get back together with them or begin talking to them again. Then we realize why we left to begin with and the flood of bad memories tend to be easier to pick out making it toxic once again. That's pretty much the same for FL. We start remembering the fond times we had, but what we don't account for is our own bad attitudes can affect how we perceive the game when we begin to remember why we left to begin with. My reasoning for leaving each time has always been my own boredom caused by myself despite thinking of creative RP ways to keep trying to push myself to continue. It also stems from realizing how much time I've spent playing when I should be doing something else. They're all pretty easily solvable solutions, but in your case that is not true. I'm not saying you're not a valuable player by any means, but I also would point out that there's a certain toxicity level that seems to build up in you while you play it. If you're not happy, only you can change that yourself. If you do not wish to, you will not have to. Thus if you choose to play again, great. If not though, that's still great. Do what it is that makes you happy, and not anyone else even if they themselves remember the fond times they had with you and use those memories to try and lure you back in. Good luck with whatever happiness you find going forward, and remember that as long as the game is running you'll probably always be welcomed back happily.

[Mali]

Valek I would encourage you to again face inward. We are not here for you to lash out at. Fare well on your next journey. 

[Fool_Hardy]

The system is set up that way Reverend. Most evils spend more time hogging the RP ball these days.

I do not fathom the why, but I certainly noticed that the dark side is more apt to tit for RP tat these days.

So I understand the frustration. But, I agree with brother Mali, let's not use our privileges to alienate. Let's use our words constructively.

Of course, all said with love and respect. Come visit again soon.

[f0xx]

22 hours ago, Valek said:

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You need to get off your high horse man.

Just because you've been here for a long long time doesn't mean anything.

People can usually take arrogance as long as it has some skils and abilities to back it up.

But if I were you, I would be way more humble and less pretentious.

[Lloth]

Enough with the bickering. Next one gets a vacation.