DasChimp Posted September 1, 2019 Report Share Posted September 1, 2019 Here is a very hot log that i gathered when facing the new Inductee in Warmaster. As a personal rule that i set, No cabal skills were used, nor consumables because Inductees cant use anything. Although Grog lost, still want to share how Warmasters should deal with Inductees (In my Opinion). Enjoy watching Grog get wrecked by a Ranger (Although it was really close)! <1786/1786hp 340/540m 466mv 11hour> You yell 'HEhlp! aokaolic kickEhd diRt into mmy eyehs!' Akalic kicks dirt in your eyes! Akalic's kicked dirt scratches you. You can't see a thing! <1783/1786hp 340/540m 466mv 11hour> You parry someone's attack. You block someone's attack with your weapon. You dodge someone's attack. You dodge someone's attack. Someone's chomp DISMEMBERS you! Someone dodges your attack. Something draws life from someone. Your life drain grazes someone. You feel a rush of endorphins, numbing your pain. <1731/1786hp 343/540m 466mv 11hour> dd Someone is blinded by the dirt in his eyes! Your kicked dirt scratches someone. <1731/1786hp 343/540m 466mv 11hour> You parry someone's attack. You block someone's attack with your weapon. Someone's poisoned bite maims you! You parry someone's attack. Someone's crush MUTILATES you! You block someone's attack with your weapon. You block someone's attack with your weapon. You dodge someone's attack. You block someone's attack with your weapon. Someone's chomp MASSACRES you! You block someone's attack with your weapon. Someone dodges your attack. Something draws life from someone. Your life drain scratches someone. Some poison barbed gauntlets gleam with lethal poison. Someone turns slightly green, but it passes. You feel a rush of endorphins, numbing your pain. <1600/1786hp 346/540m 466mv 11hour> Someone has fled! <1600/1786hp 346/540m 466mv 11hour> rage You block someone's attack with your weapon. Someone's poisoned bite MUTILATES you! Someone's poisoned bite decimates you! You yell 'Help! Ii Am beinng attaacked by someonne!' Someone's chomp MANGLES you! You dodge someone's attack. Someone's chomp MASSACRES you! You dodge someone's attack. You dodge someone's attack. You parry someone's attack. You parry someone's attack. Someone's chomp MASSACRES you! You parry someone's attack. You parry someone's attack. You dodge someone's attack. Someone dodges your attack. You feel a rush of endorphins, numbing your pain. <1300/1786hp 351/540m 466mv 11hour> You feel your veins course with power as your mind descends into oblivion! <1700/2186hp 351/540m 466mv 11hour> You block someone's attack with your weapon. You block someone's attack with your weapon. Someone's crush MUTILATES you! You block someone's attack with your weapon. You block someone's attack with your weapon. You parry someone's attack. You roar in fury and ignore someone's feeble blow. Someone dodges your attack. Someone dodges your attack. Your flame *** OBLITERATES *** someone! Something draws life from someone. Your life drain hits someone. You feel a rush of endorphins, numbing your pain. <1667/2186hp 353/540m 466mv 11hour> You parry someone's attack. You roar in fury and ignore someone's feeble blow. You roar in fury and ignore someone's feeble blow. You parry someone's attack. You block someone's attack with your weapon. You parry someone's attack. You parry someone's attack. You roar in fury and ignore someone's feeble blow. You roar in fury and ignore someone's feeble blow. You block someone's attack with your weapon. Someone dodges your attack. Someone dodges your attack. Your flame *** OBLITERATES *** someone! A surge of fear induced power begins coursing through your veins. <1667/2186hp 353/540m 466mv 11hour> Someone reverts back to his natural form. <1667/2186hp 353/540m 466mv 11hour> trip Its feet aren't on the ground. Someone rubs the dirt out of his eyes. Your vision returned you manage to calm down. You rub the dirt out of your eyes. A large wyvern is in excellent condition. <1683/2186hp 356/540m 489mv 12hour> You block a large wyvern's attack with your weapon. You roar in fury and ignore a large wyvern's feeble blow. You roar in fury and ignore a large wyvern's feeble blow. You block a large mammoth's attack with your weapon. You block a large mammoth's attack with your weapon. Akalic's acidic bite MANGLES you! You roar in fury and ignore Akalic's feeble blow. You roar in fury and ignore Akalic's feeble blow. You parry Akalic's attack. You block Akalic's attack with your weapon. You are burned by the corrosive acid on a Discordant Fiber adorned with a starshard. You roar in pain and ignore Akalic's acidic bite. Akalic's acidic bite grazes you. You can feel a Discordant Fiber adorned with a starshard dig into your body. Akalic's wrath injures you. You are burned by the corrosive acid on a Discordant Fiber adorned with a starshard. Akalic's acidic bite injures you. You can feel a Discordant Fiber adorned with a starshard dig into your body. Akalic's wrath LACERATES you! Your flame *** OBLITERATES *** a large wyvern! Akalic parries your attack. Your flame *** DEMOLISHES *** a large wyvern! A blazing bardiche draws life from a large wyvern. Your life drain injures a large wyvern. You feel a rush of endorphins, numbing your pain. A large wyvern has quite a few wounds. <1519/2186hp 359/540m 489mv 12hour> Akalic kicks dirt in your eyes! Akalic's kicked dirt scratches you. You can't see a thing! <1515/2186hp 359/540m 489mv 12hour> Someone's poisoned bite MUTILATES you! You block someone's attack with your weapon. Someone's crush LACERATES you! You block someone's attack with your weapon. Someone gets a wild look in its eyes. You block someone's attack with your weapon. You roar in fury and ignore someone's feeble blow. Someone dodges your attack. Your flame *** OBLITERATES *** someone! Something draws life from someone. Your life drain hits someone. A surge of fear induced power begins coursing through your veins. You feel a rush of endorphins, numbing your pain. <1436/2186hp 362/540m 489mv 12hour> kk They aren't here. <1436/2186hp 362/540m 489mv 12hour> You roar in fury and ignore someone's feeble blow. You parry someone's attack. You roar in fury and ignore someone's feeble blow. You parry someone's attack. You block someone's attack with your weapon. You parry someone's attack. Someone trips you and you go down! Someone's trip grazes you. You roar in fury and ignore someone's feeble blow. You block someone's attack with your weapon. You block someone's attack with your weapon. You are burned by the corrosive acid on something. Someone's acidic bite injures you. You can feel something dig into your body. Someone's wrath decimates you! Your flame === DISINTEGRATES === someone! Someone dodges your attack. Your flame *** OBLITERATES *** someone! Someone dodges your attack. Someone dodges your attack. You feel a rush of endorphins, numbing your pain. <1388/2186hp 364/540m 489mv 12hour> Someone throws something at you! Something flies by you. Someone's throw misses you. Something falls to the ground. <1388/2186hp 364/540m 489mv 12hour> You roar in fury and ignore someone's feeble blow. You parry someone's attack. You roar in fury and ignore someone's feeble blow. You roar in fury and ignore someone's feeble blow. You parry someone's attack. You parry someone's attack. You block someone's attack with your weapon. You roar in fury and ignore someone's feeble blow. Someone's acidic bite MANGLES you! You are burned by the corrosive acid on something. Someone's acidic bite grazes you. You can feel something dig into your body. Someone's wrath MUTILATES you! Someone dodges your attack. Your flame *** OBLITERATES *** someone! Your flame *** OBLITERATES *** someone! Your flame *** OBLITERATES *** someone! Someone is DEAD!! You receive 355 experience points. You snap out of your madness at the death of your opponent. You snap out of your madness at the death of your opponent. Someone's ear is ripped off of its head. <857/1786hp 364/540m 489mv 12hour> TICK SOON. rage You dodge someone's attack. You parry someone's attack. You dodge someone's attack. Someone's acidic bite MASSACRES you! Someone's acidic bite MASSACRES you! You are burned by the corrosive acid on something. You roar in pain and ignore someone's acidic bite. Someone's acidic bite grazes you. You can feel something dig into your body. Someone's wrath mauls you. Your flame MANGLES someone! Your flame MANGLES someone! Your flame MANGLES someone! You feel a rush of endorphins, numbing your pain. <678/1786hp 368/540m 489mv 12hour> Huh? <678/1786hp 368/540m 489mv 12hour> You feel your veins course with power as your mind descends into oblivion! <1078/2186hp 368/540m 489mv 12hour> ber Someone gets something. <1078/2186hp 368/540m 489mv 12hour> You block someone's attack with your weapon. You parry someone's attack. You roar in fury and ignore someone's feeble blow. Someone's acidic bite MASSACRES you! You roar in fury and ignore someone's feeble blow. Your flame *** DEMOLISHES *** someone! Someone is DEAD!! You receive 450 experience points. You snap out of your madness at the death of your opponent. You snap out of your madness at the death of your opponent. Someone's severed head plops on the ground. <602/1786hp 368/540m 489mv 12hour> Your pulse races as you are consumed by rage! <702/1786hp 298/540m 439mv 12hour> Someone tosses a small handfull of thick pollen at someone. You yell 'hHeLp! ZSsaomeonEh Juhhsst tried to sEhnd a ZSswarMmM ahhftEhr mme!' Someone's pollen scratches you. A swarming cloud of voracious insects descends upon you! You yell 'HhEhlp! thHEh sWaRm off thhe aGes Iis affTer me!' You feel momentarily ill, but it passes. Someone's insect swarm MANGLES you! <618/1786hp 298/540m 439mv 12hour> Someone's acidic bite MANGLES you! Someone's acidic bite MANGLES you! You sure are BLEEDING! You parry someone's attack. You block someone's attack with your weapon. You are burned by the corrosive acid on something. Someone's acidic bite hits you. You sure are BLEEDING! You can feel something dig into your body. Someone's wrath LACERATES you! You sure are BLEEDING! Someone parries your attack. Someone dodges your attack. Someone dodges your attack. Something draws life from someone. Your life drain grazes someone. You feel a rush of endorphins, numbing your pain. <387/1786hp 301/540m 439mv 12hour> Huh? <387/1786hp 301/540m 439mv 12hour> kk They aren't here. <387/1786hp 301/540m 439mv 12hour> rage You feel your veins course with power as your mind descends into oblivion! You roar in fury and ignore someone's feeble blow. Someone's acidic bite MASSACRES you! Someone's acidic bite MASSACRES you! You are burned by the corrosive acid on something. Someone's acidic bite hits you. You can feel something dig into your body. Someone's wrath devastates you! Someone dodges your attack. Your flame *** DEMOLISHES *** someone! Someone dodges your attack. You feel a rush of endorphins, numbing your pain. <594/2186hp 304/540m 439mv 12hour> Someone has fled! Someone walks north. <594/2186hp 304/540m 439mv 12hour> bs But you aren't fighting anyone! <594/2186hp 304/540m 439mv 12hour> Someone walks in. <594/2186hp 304/540m 439mv 12hour> You yell 'help! i aom vbeingh Ahttaaccked by someonnne!' You block someone's attack with your weapon. You block someone's attack with your weapon. You parry someone's attack. You are burned by the corrosive acid on something. Someone's acidic bite scratches you. You can feel something dig into your body. Someone's wrath wounds you. <573/2186hp 304/540m 439mv 12hour> bs You slam into someone, knocking him senseless! Your bodyslam DISMEMBERS someone! <573/2186hp 304/540m 439mv 12hour> Your vision returned you manage to calm down. You rub the dirt out of your eyes. A swarming cloud of voracious insects descends upon you! You yell 'help! thHe sWarm off THe agEs Is afFtER meh!' You feel momentarily ill, but it passes. Akalic's insect swarm devastates you! Akalic has quite a few wounds. <584/2186hp 306/540m 466mv 13hour> Akalic's acidic bite *** DEMOLISHES *** you! You sure are BLEEDING! You roar in fury and ignore Akalic's feeble blow. You are burned by the corrosive acid on a Discordant Fiber adorned with a starshard. Akalic's acidic bite scratches you. You sure are BLEEDING! You can feel a Discordant Fiber adorned with a starshard dig into your body. Akalic's wrath MUTILATES you! You sure are BLEEDING! You are burned by the corrosive acid on a Discordant Fiber adorned with a starshard. Akalic's acidic bite grazes you. You sure are BLEEDING! You can feel a Discordant Fiber adorned with a starshard dig into your body. Akalic's wrath LACERATES you! You sure are BLEEDING! Your flame *** OBLITERATES *** Akalic! Some poison barbed gauntlets gleam with lethal poison. Akalic turns slightly green, but it passes. You feel a rush of endorphins, numbing your pain. Akalic has quite a few wounds. <387/2186hp 310/540m 466mv 13hour> bs You roar in fury and ignore Akalic's feeble blow. You block Akalic's attack with your weapon. You are burned by the corrosive acid on a Discordant Fiber adorned with a starshard. Akalic's acidic bite injures you. You sure are BLEEDING! You can feel a Discordant Fiber adorned with a starshard dig into your body. Akalic's wrath maims you! You sure are BLEEDING! Your flame *** DEMOLISHES *** Akalic! Akalic parries your attack. A blazing bardiche draws life from Akalic. Your life drain injures Akalic. You feel a rush of endorphins, numbing your pain. Akalic has some big nasty wounds and scratches. <349/2186hp 314/540m 466mv 13hour> You slam into Akalic, knocking him senseless! Your bodyslam LACERATES Akalic! Akalic has some big nasty wounds and scratches. <349/2186hp 314/540m 466mv 13hour> You parry Akalic's attack. You roar in fury and ignore Akalic's feeble blow. Akalic's acidic bite *** DEMOLISHES *** you! You sure are BLEEDING! Akalic's acidic bite MANGLES you! You sure are BLEEDING! You roar in fury and ignore Akalic's feeble blow. You are burned by the corrosive acid on a Discordant Fiber adorned with a starshard. Akalic's acidic bite injures you. You sure are BLEEDING! You can feel a Discordant Fiber adorned with a starshard dig into your body. Akalic's wrath devastates you! You sure are BLEEDING! You are burned by the corrosive acid on a Discordant Fiber adorned with a starshard. Akalic's acidic bite scratches you. You sure are BLEEDING! You can feel a Discordant Fiber adorned with a starshard dig into your body. Akalic's wrath decimates you! You sure are BLEEDING! Your flame *** OBLITERATES *** Akalic! A blazing bardiche draws life from Akalic. Your life drain grazes Akalic. Akalic looks pretty hurt. <71/2186hp 314/540m 466mv 13hour> bs Akalic's acidic bite MANGLES you! You have been mortally wounded!! The giant cloud of insects thins out and disperses You've gained some worth in eyes of [BARBARIAN]! You have gained 31 blades in service of BARBARIAN. A challenge has ended. You have lost the challenge. [WARMASTER]: 'Akalic has claimed victory over Grog.' [BARBARIAN]: 'Grog has been defeated by Akalic.' You are too hurt to do anything for a while. 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Atticus Posted September 1, 2019 Report Share Posted September 1, 2019 Haha that's grog. A fuggin stick of dynamite if I've even seen one! Link to comment
Anonymous Posted September 2, 2019 Report Share Posted September 2, 2019 The body slams hurt so bad. Thanks for having some mercy on an inductee. It's a rough 10 hours. Akalic Link to comment
f0xx Posted September 2, 2019 Report Share Posted September 2, 2019 Fighting without sanc is quite disadvantageous for zerkers, since they, out of all the heavy melees, are able to get rid of it. That being said, props for leveling the field, but I don't think you should give up that much. You are in the cabal for a reason after all. Sanc is enough IMO, otherwise where do you draw the line? If the doesn't wear rings you remove yours too? Of course, everyone is free to go as far as he wants. Props. Link to comment
DasChimp Posted September 2, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2019 9 hours ago, Anonymous said: The body slams hurt so bad. Thanks for having some mercy on an inductee. It's a rough 10 hours. Akalic I think I said it in discord as well, but this is why i view Inductee challenges the way i do: 1. Being an Elder in the cabal gives me access to some truly awesome skills. 2. These skills hurt. A LOT. 3. Given that even though it is a Cabal, Warmaster members should be close because of the enemies that they face. 4. Completely crushing someone into the ground who cannot use anything but their basic raw commands, to me and my character, does not build this trust, and is not enjoyable for either party. Plus, it doesn't allow time for observation, or how someone reacts under pressure. Sure it would be nice to see Unspeakables, but I'd rather build a relationship of Trust in the Cabal, and Warmasters do that though fighting one another, and also in service fighting our enemies. Link to comment
Anonymous Posted September 2, 2019 Report Share Posted September 2, 2019 7 hours ago, DasChimp said: I think I said it in discord as well, but this is why i view Inductee challenges the way i do: 1. Being an Elder in the cabal gives me access to some truly awesome skills. 2. These skills hurt. A LOT. 3. Given that even though it is a Cabal, Warmaster members should be close because of the enemies that they face. 4. Completely crushing someone into the ground who cannot use anything but their basic raw commands, to me and my character, does not build this trust, and is not enjoyable for either party. Plus, it doesn't allow time for observation, or how someone reacts under pressure. Sure it would be nice to see Unspeakables, but I'd rather build a relationship of Trust in the Cabal, and Warmasters do that though fighting one another, and also in service fighting our enemies. Yea, I know full well what the skills can do. I've played wms before where people where going all out (haste sanc armor shield stone skin flesh armor enlarge) and you're just sitting there like yea, I used warcry I'm ready. Then you get absolutely embarassed, then they are like yea, I'd love another fight if you need one. That's the most difficult part of playing a wm, spending 10 hours pretending that stuff doesnt bother you. Props to Yonex who understands inductee period sucks terribly, and goes out of their way to make it more bearable. Akalic Link to comment
Trick Posted September 2, 2019 Report Share Posted September 2, 2019 17 minutes ago, Anonymous said: people where going all out (haste sanc armor shield stone skin flesh armor enlarge) and you're just sitting there like yea, I used warcry I'm ready. Akalic Hahaha! Its too true to not be funny. WM inductee period is just.. its just not fun. Link to comment
Quicksilver Posted September 2, 2019 Report Share Posted September 2, 2019 In the course of playing fair, it ends up looking like you're overhandicapping yourself. People get upset getting their stuff cleaved in a duel, but that doesn't leave you with many other skills to tip the fight in your favor. Link to comment
Trick Posted September 2, 2019 Report Share Posted September 2, 2019 I used to let them pick. I won’t cleave, but I’m gonna use X skill. If you don’t agree, better burnproof your shit. Link to comment
'tarako Posted September 2, 2019 Report Share Posted September 2, 2019 I played a wm zerk and as inductee was yelled at for using cleave, versus decked elders using every cabal skill lol. They spent my entire 10 hours inductee period seeing who could hit me the hardest then laughing while I was stunned. Literally 3 T or E wms seeing who could buff and stun me the fastest. Never had something more frustrating happen in game. And they talked down to me and belittled my char for using cleave, and had 0 inhibitions about fully buffing, using every skill they had, to fight an inductee Link to comment
DasChimp Posted September 2, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2019 2 hours ago, 'tarako said: I played a wm zerk and as inductee was yelled at for using cleave, versus decked elders using every cabal skill lol. They spent my entire 10 hours inductee period seeing who could hit me the hardest then laughing while I was stunned. Literally 3 T or E wms seeing who could buff and stun me the fastest. Never had something more frustrating happen in game. And they talked down to me and belittled my char for using cleave, and had 0 inhibitions about fully buffing, using every skill they had, to fight an inductee This i have a problem with any way you skin it; its slimy. Yes, Grog is a Barbarian, but Honor is above all else. Of course im going to use every base skill at my disposal, but I am not in the business of just wrecking someone when they dont have the ability to defend themselves. I've seen what the Trusted skills do to an Inductee, as one of the Duels/challenges that I did with a previous Inductee, he/she wanted to see what they could do. Needless to say, It was a VERY short fight, and frankly, if i had someone do that to me while i had no chance to stop it, I wouldn't been in Warmaster right now, because that is not what i signed up for. Link to comment
P_body Posted September 3, 2019 Report Share Posted September 3, 2019 I disagree that it's slimy. Never had a WM of any note. But the RP help file describes a grizzled, battle hardened group of fighters who fight bc they love battle. battle is icky, gruesome, emotionally traumatic. Definitely will there be a sense of honor etc. But I think of WM as something closer to a Marine Corps boot camp or Navy SEALS, or e - military mercenary group. For basic military training They DESTROY YOU emotionally before they try to build you back up (the way they want you). This could (don't have to) do this as WM. Beat you within an inch of your life to prove as a warrior you aren't half as great as you think you are, they're always superior, and then they build you on their foundation the way they want you to fight. Once you're an initiated Member they start treating you a LITTLE Differently. By the time you're T they treat you like one of their own...then you get to emotionally berate the new "maggots". Sidenote: never been in the military. My deep and abiding understanding of military is all from Hollywood. So take the above with a bag of salt. Extra note: I think this could be a great rp angle but you should be careful to keep it very blatantly RP and no possibility of this being an OOC chest puffer about you as a player. If you made such a char who could do this well, I think there might be a strong influx of WM who wanna "survive" WM boot camp and prove themselves...but maybe not.. Link to comment
DasChimp Posted September 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2019 1 hour ago, P_body said: Sidenote: never been in the military. My deep and abiding understanding of military is all from Hollywood. So take the above with a bag of salt. Extra note: I think this could be a great rp angle but you should be careful to keep it very blatantly RP and no possibility of this being an OOC chest puffer about you as a player. If you made such a char who could do this well, I think there might be a strong influx of WM who wanna "survive" WM boot camp and prove themselves...but maybe not.. From the military angle, comradery/camaraderie (i included both spellings) is EXTREMELY important. Training is just as important. If you just smash someone into the ground, bitterness and resentment come in. Not saying that i treat people with kid gloves in game while in character, and everyone who has had dealings with my character knows that when he means business, all bets are off. Link to comment
P_body Posted September 3, 2019 Report Share Posted September 3, 2019 And I think that's a great way to run it.no complaints here. Just saying I see other viable approaches to it. Not suggesting you should do them tho. Stick with your way. It's working. You like it. Other WM like it. If anyone besides you doesn't like it. Tough luck buttercup. Ya know? Link to comment
Twinblades713 Posted September 3, 2019 Report Share Posted September 3, 2019 1 hour ago, P_body said: And I think that's a great way to run it.no complaints here. Just saying I see other viable approaches to it. Not suggesting you should do them tho. Stick with your way. It's working. You like it. Other WM like it. If anyone besides you doesn't like it. Tough luck buttercup. Ya know? I too support playing your character how you want to. Maybe someone can roll a benevolent, good Warlord who helps Inductees and does charity after CRUSHING YOUR ENEMIES! Link to comment
P_body Posted September 3, 2019 Report Share Posted September 3, 2019 35 minutes ago, Twinblades713 said: I too support playing your character how you want to. Maybe someone can roll a benevolent, good Warlord who helps Inductees and does charity after CRUSHING YOUR ENEMIES! I think that could be hilarious. Link to comment
f0xx Posted September 3, 2019 Report Share Posted September 3, 2019 9 hours ago, 'tarako said: I played a wm zerk and as inductee was yelled at for using cleave, versus decked elders using every cabal skill lol. They spent my entire 10 hours inductee period seeing who could hit me the hardest then laughing while I was stunned. Literally 3 T or E wms seeing who could buff and stun me the fastest. Never had something more frustrating happen in game. And they talked down to me and belittled my char for using cleave, and had 0 inhibitions about fully buffing, using every skill they had, to fight an inductee You have to understand that each one of the people that did that to you had to go through the same thing and were probably treated the same way. Be the bigger person and break the cycle with personal example. Posting something like this only makes you sound entitled, because you demand treatment different to what any other normal inductee would get. Link to comment
'tarako Posted September 3, 2019 Report Share Posted September 3, 2019 I've never gone all out against an inductee, and I've never told someone not to use skills. This isn't me acting entitled, this is me expressing my feelings about things that where done to me. Using e skills to fight someone that can't use det invis then bragging about it IS frustrating Link to comment
f0xx Posted September 3, 2019 Report Share Posted September 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, 'tarako said: I've never gone all out against an inductee, and I've never told someone not to use skills. This isn't me acting entitled, this is me expressing my feelings about things that where done to me. Using e skills to fight someone that can't use det invis then bragging about it IS frustrating With all due respect, expecting different (better, special) treatment compared to others IS the definition entitlement, no matter how you phrase it. And there's something frustrating about every cabal's RP. For me, playing a knight is frustrating. You don't see me complaining and trying to change their RP though, since I understand the problem is with me, not the cabal. Same with Tribunal. Link to comment
Twinblades713 Posted September 3, 2019 Report Share Posted September 3, 2019 I personally would consider it insulting if, as an Inductee, everyone was treating me with kid gloves. I got smashed like anyone during my Inductee periods. I've had a Stone Warrior, Halfelf Monk, and Feral Thief in Warmaster and each time it was a unique and interesting experience. You don't lose anything for dying, I always collected solid nonrare gear until M, and few people even the griefers wouldn't loot it. I never got mercy and I never wanted any. I did not think my time was wasted at Inductee. The Warmaster experience is a rare and valuable one, imo. You can be a ruthless Warlord, cut out spines and demand fear and respect from your subordinates, or be a benevolent Gladiator and lift everyone out of the dirt after a stun loss. There's no wrong way to do it, so because an evil Warlord makes you feel like shit... that's probably the intention. Learn from it and grow, or don't I guess. Link to comment
'tarako Posted September 3, 2019 Report Share Posted September 3, 2019 What I'm saying is outside of normal inductee period I was yelled at for using skills. I was basically told rage, stand there and I'm gonna unload on you. You can't put a positive spin on that lol. It is a shit experience as a player. The legacy of a wm is their record. Starting off 0 and 10 because your cabal mates restricted the skills you where allowed to use, while using everything available to them, is shitty. Then mocking you while youre stunned isn't building friendship or companionship. I'm not asking for special treatment, I'm just relating my experiences. It wasn't 1 char, it was 3, it wasn't spread out over different logins. It was back to back one after the other within minutes. Then them laughing about how easily they beat me amongst each other while I was stunned. You get chastised if you try to pass on a duel, so your options are sit there and take it and remind yourself "well it's just my inductee period" Link to comment
Trick Posted September 3, 2019 Report Share Posted September 3, 2019 There's this "image" a lot of you have of this rough and rugged inductee period that molds you into a better more resilient fighter for the Warmaster and personal honor. And it sounds fucking awesome. Problem is, its not true. What it is, is 10 hours in a cabal in a game that expressly promotes avoiding death, preparing the best you can for a fight, and learning to try again. Warmaster Inductee is not a TEACHING moment when the first thing we TEACH new players is that sanctuary is a must and then the spells trickle down from there. It is imperative to have sanctuary in order to live long enough to learn a fight. There have been logs posted of an inductee getting two rounded w/o sanc whereas with sanctuary he may have lived considerably longer and been able to learn something from that experience. What a new skill does, what he/she did wrong, how to fight a cleric better, whatever it may be, they learn. WM Inductee period is not a learning/growing stage. It is a hazing, harassing, and PK ability fodder stage. You have 10 hours of every DK/evil cleric challenging you. You have 10 hours where you can't effectively go learn FL or gather equipment. You have 10 hours where you can barely defend your cabal without dying. You have 10 hours where you can't even see invisible. Its 10 hours of a dogshit experience and pouring on some fancy sauce to say any different is just that, dogshit. If we WANT inductee period to be that learning period there are a few ways. 1. Change the way inductee period is fundamentally by allowing them magic or give them some basic sanc/det invis skill. 2. Erase the hour commitment and make it JUST a challenge requirement. You go balls out, no fear, and get your 10 duels win or lose? Congratulations, boyo, you survived the trial by fire and now you're a Member after your tenth duel. I like option 2. Link to comment
Rygothran Posted September 3, 2019 Report Share Posted September 3, 2019 I enjoy the inductee period personally. For me it is a personal challenge to try and win being at such a disadvantage. Yeah, it doesn't happen often but it is the challenge of it that I enjoy without actually losing lives. I suggest just letting people play their characters how they want to play them. A lot of players get pissed off because other people aren't playing the way they think they should. It's stupid. Inductee period for WM isn't changing in the foreseeable future btw. Link to comment
'tarako Posted September 3, 2019 Report Share Posted September 3, 2019 4 hours ago, Rygothran said: I suggest just letting people play their characters how they want to play them. A lot of players get pissed off because other people aren't playing the way they think they should. It's stupid. Alot of people in this post are completely ignoring that this is what pissed me off. It isn't the inductee restrictions. It was the fact that while I was already under an ass load of restrictions my cabal mates where applying more restrictions on me while applying none to themselves. Take away critical pvp skills from me and then acting like they where badasses to each other for beating the most handicapped character they could have fought. That is what made it a shit experience. Link to comment
f0xx Posted September 3, 2019 Report Share Posted September 3, 2019 13 minutes ago, 'tarako said: Alot of people in this post are completely ignoring that this is what pissed me off. It isn't the inductee restrictions. It was the fact that while I was already under an ass load of restrictions my cabal mates where applying more restrictions on me while applying none to themselves. Take away critical pvp skills from me and then acting like they where badasses to each other for beating the most handicapped character they could have fought. That is what made it a shit experience. This can happen in most cabals though. I've had nexus guys send me to collect vials for them. Was it a shit experience? Sure. Shit experiences are part of cabals like that though. If you don't want them, then you are not ready for any cabal that has evils in them, or a strong militaristic hierarchy. I would suggest sticking to Knight or Herald. Such experiences is what makes those cabals fun though. Because it's alawys funny how their attitude changes when you beat the crap out of them, full loot them and coup them. In cabals like that the strong guy is the right guy. So what I am trying to say is, you shouldn't get pissed for something like this, because it's normal. And you should not demand anything other than that, because that's being entitled. Link to comment
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