Grog (WM Barbarian Elder Berserker) vs Akalic (Warmaster Inductee Ranger)

['tarako]

I'm entitled for assuming that I'll be allowed to use everything at my disposal in a fight where my opponent is using everything at their disposal?

[f0xx]

40 minutes ago, 'tarako said:

I'm entitled for assuming that I'll be allowed to use everything at my disposal in a fight where my opponent is using everything at their disposal?

Yes indeed.

Entitled and naive for thinking that you will receive a fair treatment when others haven't. When being treated unfairly is the norm.

[edit] And please bear in mind, I am no supporter of such behaviour. I kill and full loot and basically do everything my RP allows me to literally "destroy" such characters and behaviour. But that is totally normal and in the RP of such cabals. And that is how it should be. People should be allowed to play their characters as they want if the RP of the cabal allows it. Even if they want to RP a total asshole.

[Anonymous]

Being entitled is wanting preferential treatment, not wanting some semblance of equality. In a scenario where I'm being asked not to use skills versus opponents who will use all their skills, they are the ones acting entitled. I don't understand how you can say the person wanting equality is the one acting entitled. I don't mean sanc etc. I mean my class skills. No buffs is inductee life, I signed up for it. What bothered me was being told not to use core class skills. 

 

If you think I'm acting entitled for wanting to use every skill I have in a fight, just like my opponents, the. You don't understand the definition of entitled.

 

[Anonymous]

Tarako^

 

[Twinblades713]

52 minutes ago, f0xx said:

This can happen in most cabals though.

I've had nexus guys send me to collect vials for them. Was it a shit experience? Sure. Shit experiences are part of cabals like that though. If you don't want them, then you are not ready for any cabal that has evils in them, or a strong militaristic hierarchy. I would suggest sticking to Knight or Herald.

Such experiences is what makes those cabals fun though. Because it's alawys funny how their attitude changes when you beat the crap out of them, full loot them and coup them. In cabals like that the strong guy is the right guy.

So what I am trying to say is, you shouldn't get pissed for something like this, because it's normal. And you should not demand anything other than that, because that's being entitled.

 

My last Nexus Leader bountied anyone who joined Despair. If they can't keep up with bounty hunters, how can I expect them to thrive in the Rift? I felt it was proper Evil roleplay. Plenty of people hated it, and it even backfired on me. What an excellent scenario to make that character interesting though.

[f0xx]

15 minutes ago, Anonymous said:

Being entitled is wanting preferential treatment, not wanting some semblance of equality.

In your case, wanting equality IS preferential treatment.

Because everyone was treated unfairly when he was on your place.

['tarako]

It's not an issue of me saying hey, don't fight with sanc because I cant. That isn't what I'm saying and I've never asked for anyone to do that. I've insisted they use all their skills. What i was angry about is I was told not to use other skills IN ADDITION to the already heavy restrictions on an inductee. That isn't feeling entitled man, I don't know how you can equate that to me being entitled.

['tarako]

49 minutes ago, Twinblades713 said:

My last Nexus Leader bountied anyone who joined Despair. If they can't keep up with bounty hunters, how can I expect them to thrive in the Rift? I felt it was proper Evil roleplay. Plenty of people hated it, and it even backfired on me. What an excellent scenario to make that character interesting though.

Phanthanan did that to me as seviks. Marcella trying to collect that bounty is how I got wrapped up in all that eternal darkness rp. Was a great time honestly. When  I in turn did it to a despair member I was flipped out on ooc and the character rage quit. MadE me feel like a dick

[tassinvegeta]

42 minutes ago, 'tarako said:

Phanthanan did that to me as seviks. Marcella trying to collect that bounty is how I got wrapped up in all that eternal darkness rp. Was a great time honestly. When  I in turn did it to a despair member I was flipped out on ooc and the character rage quit. MadE me feel like a dick

I remember that. And you passed my tests shortly thereafter. Sometimes these things create lasting memories, sometimes they create those you'll want to forget. But you'll never have either if you don't risk it and put yourself out there.

[Trick]

1 hour ago, f0xx said:

Yes indeed.

Entitled and naive for thinking that you will receive a fair treatment when others haven't. When being treated unfairly is the norm.

[edit] And please bear in mind, I am no supporter of such behaviour. I kill and full loot and basically do everything my RP allows me to literally "destroy" such characters and behaviour. But that is totally normal and in the RP of such cabals. And that is how it should be. People should be allowed to play their characters as they want if the RP of the cabal allows it. Even if they want to RP a total asshole.

And that is very telling of what kind of player you are and how you are probably not a good fit for the game environment.

I have never thought that I wanted to literally destroy my opponent to this degree.

I think that is a major factor as to why the game suffered such a catastrophic decline in player-base numbers and I, personally, don't feel like that is a good game attitude to have, regardless of it being RP or not. 

There is a point where you need to consider the player on the other end of the screen and decide if you really need to destroy them.

I'm disappointed in you, @f0xx.

[Chief]

In your case Tarako, you were playing a fury berserker when they still had a ridiculous success rate to weaponcleave weapons into deletion and they had no diminishing returns.

The only reason Berston and I advised against it was all we carried were sharpened weapons that we took hours to make, literally hours. That time and effort was not a good trade off for an in house friendly duel.

['tarako]

50 minutes ago, Chief said:

In your case Tarako, you were playing a fury berserker when they still had a ridiculous success rate to weaponcleave weapons into deletion and they had no diminishing returns.

The only reason Berston and I advised against it was all we carried were sharpened weapons that we took hours to make, literally hours. That time and effort was not a good trade off for an in house friendly duel.

And I spent hours and hours training my skills to be effective in friendly du7els. Your time investment is not nore important than my time investment.

[Anume]

I don't really see the problem. If it's a WM inductee and it's a friendly duel another WM should not use stance / sanc , forms whatever. The goal is not to rofl stomp them after all. In those cases where I've seen that, I've handed out negative rp awards. No cleaving is also often a condition to a friendly duel.

As to the complaints about being path / malform food as an inductee: you do not lose any lives. It's more a matter of hurt pride than a real disadvantage for the wm inductee. Dks and clerics need some love too

(And yeah, I've been on both sides.)