'tarako Posted September 13, 2019 Report Share Posted September 13, 2019 Ninjas consistently hit harder, and more often, under the same circumstances as dedicated melee characters with less eq. In that log kittori had 38 damage roll, and was consistently hitting for caps through sanc. He's also throwing out 4 to 6 attacks very very often. Link to comment
'tarako Posted September 13, 2019 Report Share Posted September 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, English lad said: That was Zrothum no? I don't remember. I just looked at ninja logs on forums. Link to comment
f0xx Posted September 13, 2019 Report Share Posted September 13, 2019 @Rygothran I am sorry Rygo, I go by the information I get provided with. Trick claims he is fighting a raged fire giant who is decked while he himself is naked, but it turns out that he is fighting non-raged mino zerker who is only modestly dressed while he himself is decked. This is why I don't like commenting on logs that provide so little actual information. I mean, I don't think Trick lied intentionally, but in his mind ninjas are so OP, that his brain itself creates scenarios that support his claim. If he was actually to read his log with a critical view, he would find himself that he won so decisively only becuase 1) He played well 2) His opponent didn't and 3) He had EQ advantage. Link to comment
f0xx Posted September 13, 2019 Report Share Posted September 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, 'tarako said: Ninjas consistently hit harder, and more often, under the same circumstances as dedicated melee characters with less eq. In that log kittori had 38 damage roll, and was consistently hitting for caps through sanc. He's also throwing out 4 to 6 attacks very very often. Again more claims without any actual proof. I am getting a deja vu with you Tarako. Every debate people have with you, turns out the same way. You just repeat the same thing over and over, completely ignoring every argument brought. It's "killing for profit is evil" all over again. Link to comment
'tarako Posted September 13, 2019 Report Share Posted September 13, 2019 Did you even read the log I linked. This ninja had no combat buffs, and clearly basic eq but was beating on agmeel. You are the one ignoring arguments. Ninjas dominating melee combat in sub par eq vs straight melee classes without using most of their bag of tricks. What else do you need to see. A ds ninja winning with 20 20 hit dam Link to comment
Trick Posted September 13, 2019 Report Share Posted September 13, 2019 26 minutes ago, f0xx said: @Rygothran I am sorry Rygo, I go by the information I get provided with. Trick claims he is fighting a raged fire giant who is decked while he himself is naked, but it turns out that he is fighting non-raged mino zerker who is only modestly dressed while he himself is decked. This is why I don't like commenting on logs that provide so little actual information. I mean, I don't think Trick lied intentionally, but in his mind ninjas are so OP, that his brain itself creates scenarios that support his claim. If he was actually to read his log with a critical view, he would find himself that he won so decisively only becuase 1) He played well 2) His opponent didn't and 3) He had EQ advantage. Okay, first of all @f0xx, you’re so beyond arrogant that it’s not even funny. Don’t speak to Rygo and flame me. I don’t understand why you are even able to post anymore following your constant flames. It’s like the IMMs just ignore it.. Second of all, when I get a chance tomorrow I’ll post the log I was trying to post where the zerk got off a gang and managed to heavily loot and I capped him from cabal outfit. To say comments that I believe ninjas are so OP that id make up a scenario is beyond ridiculous and I am honestly shocked you would say such a thing. Link to comment
Azravik Posted September 13, 2019 Report Share Posted September 13, 2019 Ok. Lets stop there. Or I will have Auntie Lloth Stop it for you. I would like to see two comparison logs. One DS dual wielding one DS twohanded. Please provide if you are able. I currently suspect twohanded synergy with jutsu to need looking into. But I need logs to prove my theory. Help if you wish, but do not get a thread locked with nonsense. Link to comment
f0xx Posted September 13, 2019 Report Share Posted September 13, 2019 9 minutes ago, Trick said: Okay, first of all @f0xx, you’re so beyond arrogant that it’s not even funny. Don’t speak to Rygo and flame me. I don’t understand why you are even able to post anymore following your constant flames. It’s like the IMMs just ignore it.. Second of all, when I get a chance tomorrow I’ll post the log I was trying to post where the zerk got off a gang and managed to heavily loot and I capped him from cabal outfit. To say comments that I believe ninjas are so OP that id make up a scenario is beyond ridiculous and I am honestly shocked you would say such a thing. First of all, @Trick, that was not a flame. I was trying to come up with a logical explanation for the large discrepencies betweem your claims and the actual facts. If you want to address and explain them, please do so. You said he was a fire giant and he wasn't. You said he was raged, and he wasn't. You said he had huge EQ advantage, and he didn't. That being said, I've never acted disrespectful to you in any manner or form and you know that I hold nothing but great respect towards you, even after you've openly flamed me and asked the IMMs to ban me in multiple posts now. Link to comment
'tarako Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 Maybe you don't realize how abrasive you are f0xx. The way you deliver thoughts is, in my eyes, easy to read as arrogant and inflammatory. If that isn't your intent I'll offer an apology, as maybe it's language barrier. I just often feel that you're very sarcastic, and never offer any actual advice. You just call people idiots in a roundabout way and never give counters besides blanket "you're wrong" statements Link to comment
Trick Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 I posted the wrong, which I removed and I will post the one I meant to tomorrow morning. 1 hour ago, f0xx said: That being said, I've never acted disrespectful to you in any manner or form and you know that I hold nothing but great respect towards you, even after you've openly flamed me and asked the IMMs to ban me in multiple posts now. I appreciate the respect and I've usually agreed with you on just about everything PK and often tout you as one of the best here, but your tone of voice in your posts towards others is what I find unacceptable. I stand by what I said in those posts that if you cannot articulate yourself in a more respectful manner, then you don't deserve to be posting here. I am tired of it. I don't think you are being held to the same forum standards as the rest of us regarding your opinions, tone of voice, and the way you post here and I will advocate for punishment until you rectify such behavior. This is the last I will openly discuss the matter. I've posted my thoughts on the Prayer Forum to the IMMs and I will address you personally in PMs if you wish to continue speaking on it. EDIT: I don't want this to be a "run @f0xx out of town" type of thing as I do think he offers a good perspective and value when it is expressed the right way. Back to it. I don't have a warped perspective about ninjas. I have fought many and even played as one. I think they have far too great of an output given their survival tools. With vanish, hide, and acupuncture coupled with that offensive and defensive ability, it makes the class unbalanced. Link to comment
Kyzarius Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 2 hours ago, Trick said: I don’t understand why you are even able to post anymore following your constant flames. It’s like the IMMs just ignore it.. My sentiment exactly. I mean he professes that he doesnt even play here. So what, just trolling our forums to insult people? Oh and dont forget derail any discussion about balance with insults. Link to comment
Lloth Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 Auntie Lloth has arrived. Only warning to speak respectfully and politely. Anyone that does not comply will get an exceptionally long vacation. Not a post approval vacation, or a prayer only vacation. A full "can't access the forum at all" vacation. Am I making myself clear? Link to comment
Rensvert Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 Alright boys and girls, you are all acting kind of childish. Try to keep it civil or the imms will just shut down the thread. Or worse yet they will send Valek in to give a sermon and no one wants that. Edit : Damn lloth beat me to it, point still stands though Link to comment
Twinblades713 Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 I tried to make it smaller. Forgive me. 😧 Little bitta humor is all we need. Link to comment
f0xx Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 4 hours ago, Trick said: I stand by what I said in those posts that if you cannot articulate yourself in a more respectful manner, then you don't deserve to be posting here. If by "more respectful manner" you mean that I have to agree with anything you agree with, then I will politely disagree. You keep saying that I flame, but I don't think I do. You made many factual mistakes in this thread. All I did was point them out. In return, instead of explaining why you made them, you attack me personally and call for reprisal. And this kind of behavior draws in other people who couldn't care less about the subject (but dislike me) and so they join the flame fest. Just look at Kyz's post bellow yours... 5 hours ago, 'tarako said: Maybe you don't realize how abrasive you are f0xx. The way you deliver thoughts is, in my eyes, easy to read as arrogant and inflammatory. If that isn't your intent I'll offer an apology, as maybe it's language barrier. I just often feel that you're very sarcastic, and never offer any actual advice. You just call people idiots in a roundabout way and never give counters besides blanket "you're wrong" statements @Tarako, the person who posted these very logs talks to me constantly and we exchange experience non-stop. You know what he said after reading how this thread developed? - "I will never post a PK log again. I came for advice and all I got in return is people griping how OP DS ninjas are." Ponder that for a moment. Link to comment
'tarako Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 I won't post logs either solely because of player responses to them as well. You in particular actually. I will never approach the open forum for advice again with a log again, I will ask for rough directions on prayer, and spend lives getting it down to where I am comfortable. I am truly sorry if the player behind this character is offended. And I hope I am not a contributing factor, but across the log they identified their mistakes pretty easily. There isn't much for us to offer, you have said this as well. So instead we start dissecting the log itself, and instead of advice we offer opinions on the log. There are alot of respected members of the community, notable pkers, who all agree that a fair amount of ninja logs highlight that ninjas are consistently the best melee class vs most anyone, and the fastest to recover if it goes bad, and the best escape tactics except for druids. I think they where designed never to die. It isn't wrong for players to voice their opinions, espescially when the evidence is so clear in game. As a lotus scourge, and double sheath, I was able to solo be very thing except gear, and the lurker. As a rogue. I'd that not maybe slightly imbalanced? Link to comment
Anonymous Posted September 14, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 @Azravik I would recommend comparing. 2h sword/Speer log to 2h staff log instead of dual wield. Dual wield is another beast. Question really is how much better/worse is jutsu compared to its cousin? You'll have to adjust for staff values vs spear/sword values, avg damage, and opponents weapons etc. But I think showing defense + offense vs those three weapons will give a better comparison to determine if jutsu needs to be toned. From what @F0xx had told me, his ninja basically always wielded a staff btw. Hwaarhuh never has, but I'm happy to give it a try. I have the domniferis from the pit (people say best staff in the game) and can compare. Link to comment
f0xx Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 22 minutes ago, 'tarako said: I won't post logs either solely because of player responses to them as well. You in particular actually. I will never approach the open forum for advice again with a log again, I will ask for rough directions on prayer, and spend lives getting it down to where I am comfortable. I am truly sorry if the player behind this character is offended. And I hope I am not a contributing factor, but across the log they identified their mistakes pretty easily. There isn't much for us to offer, you have said this as well. So instead we start dissecting the log itself, and instead of advice we offer opinions on the log. There are alot of respected members of the community, notable pkers, who all agree that a fair amount of ninja logs highlight that ninjas are consistently the best melee class vs most anyone, and the fastest to recover if it goes bad, and the best escape tactics except for druids. I think they where designed never to die. It isn't wrong for players to voice their opinions, espescially when the evidence is so clear in game. As a lotus scourge, and double sheath, I was able to solo be very thing except gear, and the lurker. As a rogue. I'd that not maybe slightly imbalanced? You keep doing it, Tarako. You say I am sorry, and then you do the exactly same thing you were "sorry" about. I am very well aware why people gripe under PK logs, it's to get the "herd" going, in hopes that the masses will swing immortal opinion. And they do it because It has worked in the past. IMO, there should be divine mandate against this - if you have concerns over balance, the right place to voice them is the Prayer forum. There you can argue your point with actual proofs. I've done that many times. I've been shut down and I've rolled combos to prove my arguments. You should try doing it too. You say ninjas are OP and you've played many of them, but I know neither of their names. I've played one and I think you know its name. The only names that pop up in my head when I think of strong ninjas are Tassin's, but he's been playing strong ninjas waaay before the ninja rework. You say you can solo everything except gear and lurker with a ninja, but this is doable with great many classes and is no argument that proves your point. 41 minutes ago, 'tarako said: I think they where designed never to die. How can you even say something like that? You say you've played many ninjas, what were your PK ratios? Did your ninjas never die? @Anume can we get some actual info about @'tarako's ninjas and how good they actually were? If you've played so many ninjas, and ninjas are so OP and designed to never die, their records must surely be very impressive. Link to comment
Anonymous Posted September 14, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 -above post by Hwaarhuh Additionally, regarding the utter derail meant of this thread...I can often pick apart what I did WRONG in a PK log. What I can't do, is tell myself what I CAN'T see. Most notably, other strategies to try. Posting in PK logs section is meant to be for two reasons: 1) help immediate player. In my case I'm asking for alternate strategies. I know they exist bc the IMMs have been awesome at giving me some from these exact same logs (copied and pasted from.prayer forum). I wanted to share with the community bc I think tactically and strategically these logs are good fodder beyond just correcting my mistakes or Ahxnar's. 2) provide help for less experienced players trying to understand how to play, or beat one side of the PK match. I tried to help I'm this regard with a heavily edited and commented log. But there is WAAY more the pbase could share here about either beating Ogres, or Rangers as a ninja, or beating a feral/ninja as a Ranger or anything else. E.g. tassin pointed out here that if Ahxnar would just dirt, or blind and chase, my murder DS benefit is negated. Also someone else somewhere, Mordred player I believe, said fighting on water as a ninja got him killed a few times bc blinding is hard with dust (if they have saves like Ahxnar) and difficult to escape blinding/sleepy/glowing arrows from an archer so it's a high risk strategy. Never realized that. but Hwaarhuh DID die in this log from fighting on water. So something learned.. There is more here that could be provided. Now however, this log is basically ruined for future uses by the pbase for learning bc it's been so thoroughly derailed. The concerns and feelings expressed by EVERYONE here I think are legitimate. But most of them don't belong in a PK log thread. IMHO ofc. But I believe the IMMS value everyone's input and so they tolerate it bc through the mess it helps the community, but even more bc I believe the IMMS really try to respect people and their individual diversity as MUCH as possible without letting it get toxic. So thanks to the IMMS past and present who merit the praise above. I know maybe not every single IMM in our long history fits the description above, but very many of of you have and still do. -Hwaarhuh Link to comment
Pali Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 11 hours ago, f0xx said: That being said, I've never acted disrespectful to you in any manner or form I completely believe that you've not done so intentionally, but how a sentence is phrased often conveys disrespect even if the words it is made up of do not. One of the best tricks I ever learned to avoid offending people in discussions like this is to try to frame my statements in such a way that makes it clear that I recognize I am offering my opinion rather than stating a fact that I am certain I am right about - for example, instead of saying to someone "you're wrong", I try to say "I think you're wrong", because the latter conveys my clear recognition that I'm offering an opinion and, at least to some degree, implies that I'm open to having my mind changed. I've observed that you seem to use the "you're wrong" style of phrasing far more often than you do the "I think you're wrong" phrasing, and I think that this makes you come across as arrogant and self-certain because it subtextually implies that you think you can't possibly be wrong about what you're saying - and it does so at a largely subconscious level that triggers an emotional reaction to that implication, which makes it harder to calmly and rationally respond to the point you're actually trying to get across. I didn't realize that I was doing the same until it was pointed out to me a while back, and I've found that being more careful with phrasing goes a long way to combat this kind of counterproductive subtextual miscommunication; it's a subtle thing, and it may not translate well or even be viewed as an issue in different cultural contexts, but I'd suggest giving it a try in the future and seeing if it makes a difference in how your future discussions play out. It can take a bit of mental effort at first to self-police this way, but once it becomes habit it's easy to maintain and pays significant rewards. And if it doesn't work for you, the worst-case result is that you've made an effort to be more polite for nothing. Also, I suggest not trying to read minds and claim what's going on in someone else's head. It will almost always come across as arrogant, even if you're 100% right, and I've never seen it change a single mind in my life - most often it simply poisons the discussion. Took me a while to learn that one too. On topic, I'm WAY too out of practice to offer much in the way of advice that hasn't already been given... but they're fun logs, so thanks for sharing. Link to comment
Implementor Anume Posted September 14, 2019 Implementor Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 I think the main problem is the different way of how things are done and felt in Europe and in the US. Example from my work life: someone has a proposal it is awful and can't possibly work that way bc of xxx If this guy is from europe: "Your idea is really awful and will never work this way. The problem is xxx." If I tell the same thing to someone from the US they will actually take offense. This is very odd for someone from Europe to understand, we just don't tick that way. If it's awful (also if it is my idea) they can tell me it is awful as long as they say why and their argumentation is logical. So we have to do the extra mental step and think hold on, this guy is from the US. Then you gotta rephrase the same to: "What a great idea, I see you've really put some thought into this (obviously has not). Have you considered however there might be some slight problem with xxx?" Followed by a 2 hour discussion with the result that the idea (of course) will not be followed through (bc it is terrible). I think eastern Europeans are even more direct in this than the typical middle european person. Trick was offended some time ago by me saying "Get over it." which he considered to be very rude. I simply did not wish to discuss an hour or more about something I considered of very low importance. It definitely was not meant to be rude. So we had the 1 hour discussion anyway in the end, due to what I discribed above Link to comment
Implementor Anume Posted September 14, 2019 Implementor Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 Anyway, I doubt it is f0xx wish to contantly offend. He just expresses his opinion in a more european way. So, this is to all our europeans, especially MYSELF but also especially @f0xx, let us all try to express our opinions A BIT more in a way our friends from the US can stomach. I'm trying hard both here and at work and I am very aware I still fail a lot lol. Let's try not to tell them "you suck / your idea is horrible" and more "Maybe there is some space for improvement, have you considered ...". To our guys from the US, this goes also the other way around. Don't take offense so easily if it comes from an European, more often than not it's not meant that way. Link to comment
Trick Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 @f0xx Kalurin is using: <used as light> (Glowing) (Humming) the War Banner of Ralardia <worn on finger> a jailer's ring - cabal <worn on finger> a judge's ring - cabal <worn around neck> the Pitlord's choker <worn around neck> (Glowing) (Humming) a necklace of linked grey fists <worn on head> the Ranger Lord's Stetson <worn on ear> (Glowing) an amber earring <worn on torso> (Humming) a suit of black eog bodyarmor <worn on arms> law-tempered vambraces - cabal <worn on hands> strangler's gloves adorned with a demon tongue <worn on legs> righteous leggings - cabal <worn on feet> boots of the riftkin <worn about body> the Death Shroud <worn about waist> a studded sword belt - cabal <worn around wrist> (Glowing) (Humming) champion's cufflinks <worn around wrist> an emblem of law - cabal <wielded> (Glowing) (Humming) 'Durindel' the Sword of Flame adorned with a tiamat's scale <hidden> (Glowing) a Crusader's Sword adorned with a soul tear <worn on face> (Glowing) a grey veil <floating nearby> nothing. <strung on back> 'Seeker', the Long Arm of the Law <in the quiver> nothing. <coiled on shoulder> (Glowing) a winged air dragon Rhextar is using: <used as light> (Glowing) (Humming) the War Banner of Ralardia <worn on finger> a hollowed fingerbone <worn on finger> (Glowing) a Ring of Accuracy <worn around neck> (Humming) a Reaver's necklace <worn around neck> (Humming) a Reaver's necklace <worn on head> a spiked helm <worn on ear> a werewolf's tooth <worn on torso> (Glowing) (Humming) a set of titanium fullplate <worn on arms> the Scaled Tentacles <worn on hands> a pair of rope-climbing gloves <worn on legs> (Glowing) Soulreaver's shadow <worn on feet> wrapped sandals <worn about body> an eel-skin cloak fastened with a coral brooch <worn about waist> (Glowing) (Humming) a back brace <worn around wrist> a Vargo family heirloom <worn around wrist> (Glowing) a glass bracelet adorned with a muddy bauble <wielded> (Glowing) (Humming) "Ssluthril" the Axe of the Leviathain's Passing adorned with a black heart <dual wielded> (Glowing) (Humming) "Ssluthril" the Axe of the Leviathain's Passing adorned with Xanthak's Eye <worn on face> (Glowing) (Humming) the mask of discord <floating nearby> the Eye of Fear A shadow flies in. [HP:948/948 MN:579/792 MV:470/490] <16339gold 280cps 17hour> hide You yell 'Help! a shadow just charged into me!' A shadow charges into you with his horns and tosses you into the air! Rhextar's body regains its substance, and he materializes into existence. Rhextar's charge attack MUTILATES you! Rhextar slashes at you with "Ssluthril" the Axe of the Leviathain's Passing adorned with a black heart while you are in the air! You parry Rhextar's attack. You dodge Rhextar's attack. Rhextar's acidic bite maims you! You dodge Rhextar's attack. You are burned by the corrosive acid on "Ssluthril" the Axe of the Leviathain's Passing adorned with a black heart. Rhextar's acidic bite scratches you. Rhextar is in excellent condition. Kalurin: [92][===|===|===|===] [HP:874/948 MN:579/792 MV:470/490] <16339gold 280cps 17hour> You fire from 'Seeker', the Long Arm of the Law and hit Rhextar with a couple shots. 'Seeker', the Long Arm of the Law's smash LACERATES Rhextar! Your wrath MUTILATES Rhextar! Your wrath maims Rhextar! Your tsuki strike hits Rhextar. You dodge Rhextar's attack. You parry Rhextar's attack. You parry Rhextar's attack. Rhextar has a few scratches. Kalurin: [92][===|===|===|===] [HP:874/948 MN:579/792 MV:470/490] <16339gold 280cps 17hour> fl The Blood Guard's slash mauls Rhextar. The Blood Guard's slash mauls Rhextar. Your wrath devastates Rhextar! Rhextar dodges your attack. Rhextar dodges your attack. Rhextar dodges your attack. Your tsuki strike injures Rhextar. Rhextar's acidic bite devastates you! Rhextar's acidic bite devastates you! Rhextar's acidic bite devastates you! Rhextar has some small wounds and bruises. Kalurin: [82][===|===|===|=--] [HP:783/948 MN:579/792 MV:470/490] <16339gold 280cps 17hour> Corax rides in. No way! You are still fighting! Rhextar has some small wounds and bruises. Kalurin: [82][===|===|===|=--] [HP:783/948 MN:579/792 MV:470/490] <16339gold 280cps 17hour> You dismount from a horse. Rhextar has some small wounds and bruises. Kalurin: [82][===|===|===|=--] [HP:783/948 MN:579/792 MV:470/490] <16339gold 280cps 17hour> No way! You are still fighting! Rhextar has some small wounds and bruises. Kalurin: [82][===|===|===|=--] [HP:783/948 MN:579/792 MV:470/490] <16339gold 280cps 17hour> You flee from combat! The Village Center The center of Blackwatch Village, this square of paved cobblestones leads throughout the village in all directions. In the center of the square is a large gray well. Suspended above the well on two steel posts is a white flag with a golden sunburst, the sigil of the Blackwatch Guard. To one side of the well is a large iron sign, arrows pointing in the four cardinal directions with a neat script detailing where each road leads. [Exits: north east south west] A Nexus Gateway crackles with hellish heat and unholy magics. A large well made of gray stone is here, fresh water fed from the springs of Mount Khorand churning far below. A huge sign made of solid iron is here, marked with directions. A KNIGHT emissary is here to recruit candidates for the training camp. The Blood Guard flies in. [HP:783/948 MN:579/792 MV:469/490] <16339gold 280cps 17hour> fl You aren't fighting anyone. [HP:783/948 MN:579/792 MV:469/490] <16339gold 280cps 17hour> hide You attempt to hide. [HP:783/948 MN:579/792 MV:469/490] <16339gold 280cps 17hour> Rhextar flies in. [HP:783/948 MN:579/792 MV:469/490] <16339gold 280cps 17hour> strangle rhex Rhextar (Occasional) yells wildly 'Help! someone just tried to strangle me!' You step out of the shadows. Your strangulation misses Rhextar. Rhextar has some small wounds and bruises. Kalurin: [82][===|===|===|=--] [HP:783/948 MN:579/792 MV:469/490] <16339gold 280cps 17hour> You fire from 'Seeker', the Long Arm of the Law and hit Rhextar with one shot. 'Seeker', the Long Arm of the Law's smash MUTILATES Rhextar! Rhextar parries your attack. Rhextar parries your attack. Your wrath decimates Rhextar! Your tsuki strike wounds Rhextar. You dodge Rhextar's attack. You parry Rhextar's attack. Rhextar's acidic bite decimates you! Rhextar's acidic bite misses you. You dodge Rhextar's attack. Rhextar has some small wounds and bruises. Kalurin: [79][===|===|===|=--] [HP:755/948 MN:579/792 MV:469/490] <16339gold 280cps 17hour> fl Corax rides in. Rhextar has some small wounds and bruises. Kalurin: [79][===|===|===|=--] [HP:755/948 MN:579/792 MV:469/490] <16339gold 280cps 17hour> Rhextar knocks you senseless with a full on bodyslam! Rhextar's bodyslam devastates you! Rhextar has some small wounds and bruises. Kalurin: [76][===|===|===|=--] [HP:723/948 MN:579/792 MV:469/490] <16339gold 280cps 17hour> The Blood Guard's slash mauls Rhextar. Rhextar dodges your attack. Rhextar dodges your attack. Rhextar parries your attack. Your wrath devastates Rhextar! Your wrath devastates Rhextar! Your wrath MUTILATES Rhextar! Your tsuki strike scratches Rhextar. You dodge Rhextar's attack. You dodge Rhextar's attack. Rhextar's acidic bite devastates you! You are burned by the corrosive acid on "Ssluthril" the Axe of the Leviathain's Passing adorned with a black heart. Rhextar's acidic bite scratches you. The Eye of Fear emits an aura of terror! Rhextar has quite a few wounds. Kalurin: [73][===|===|===|---] [HP:693/948 MN:579/792 MV:469/490] <16339gold 280cps 17hour> The Blood Guard's slash wounds Rhextar. The Blood Guard's slash wounds Rhextar. You fire from 'Seeker', the Long Arm of the Law and hit Rhextar with a couple shots. 'Seeker', the Long Arm of the Law's smash LACERATES Rhextar! Rhextar roars in pain and ignores your wrath. Your wrath grazes Rhextar. Your wrath decimates Rhextar! Your wrath misses Rhextar. Rhextar dodges your attack. Rhextar dodges your attack. Your tsuki strike grazes Rhextar. Rhextar's acidic bite devastates you! You parry Rhextar's attack. You dodge Rhextar's attack. Rhextar's acidic bite decimates you! The Eye of Fear emits an aura of terror! Rhextar has quite a few wounds. Kalurin: [66][===|===|==-|---] [HP:635/948 MN:579/792 MV:469/490] <16339gold 280cps 17hour> You flee from combat! A Cobblestone Road The cobblestones of this road are perfectly even, clearly laid by a skilled mason with great attention to detail. Villagers and traffic from Fort Blackwatch bustle about the streets, going about their business. The occasional guard from the Fort passes by, patrolling through the streets and keeping the peace. [Exits: east west] The Blood Guard flies in. The sun slowly disappears in the west. [HP:646/948 MN:592/792 MV:490/490] <16339gold 281cps 18hour> hide You attempt to hide. [HP:646/948 MN:592/792 MV:490/490] <16339gold 281cps 18hour> a whe Rhextar walks in. The Blood Guard (Model) yells wildly 'Rhextar is a criminal! Justice shall prevail!' The Blood Guard's slash mauls Rhextar. The Blood Guard's slash mauls Rhextar. Rhextar's poison scratches him. Rhextar's acidic bite MUTILATES the Blood Guard! Rhextar's acidic bite LACERATES the Blood Guard! Rhextar's acidic bite maims the Blood Guard! "Ssluthril" the Axe of the Leviathain's Passing adorned with a black heart burns the Blood Guard with corrosive acid. Rhextar's acidic bite scratches the Blood Guard. "Ssluthril" the Axe of the Leviathain's Passing adorned with Xanthak's Eye draws life from the Blood Guard. Rhextar's life drain scratches the Blood Guard. "Ssluthril" the Axe of the Leviathain's Passing adorned with Xanthak's Eye burns the Blood Guard with corrosive acid. Rhextar's acidic bite scratches the Blood Guard. An eel-skin cloak fastened with a coral brooch crackles with shocking charge. Rhextar's shocking grasp injures the Blood Guard. I flee and pop acupuncture, Rhextar comes in and charges. Rhextar walks in. [HP:896/948 MN:522/792 MV:482/490] <16339gold 281cps 18hour> Fort Blackwatch is [NEXUS] controlled. Players near you: Corax The Eastern Square <PK> Kalurin The Western Gate <PK> Rhextar (WANTED) The Western Gate [HP:896/948 MN:522/792 MV:482/490] <16339gold 281cps 18hour> whe You yell 'Help! Rhextar just charged into me!' Rhextar charges into you with his horns and tosses you into the air! You trample around loudly again. Rhextar's charge attack MASSACRES you! Rhextar slashes at you with "Ssluthril" the Axe of the Leviathain's Passing adorned with a black heart while you are in the air! You dodge Rhextar's attack. Rhextar's acidic bite maims you! Rhextar's acidic bite decimates you! You are burned by the corrosive acid on "Ssluthril" the Axe of the Leviathain's Passing adorned with a black heart. The toxin has made you glow. Rhextar's acidic bite scratches you. You feel "Ssluthril" the Axe of the Leviathain's Passing adorned with Xanthak's Eye drawing your life away. Rhextar's life drain scratches you. You are burned by the corrosive acid on "Ssluthril" the Axe of the Leviathain's Passing adorned with Xanthak's Eye. Rhextar's acidic bite scratches you. Rhextar has quite a few wounds. Kalurin: [79][===|===|===|=--] [HP:757/948 MN:522/792 MV:482/490] <16339gold 281cps 18hour> The Blood Guard (Model) yells wildly 'Rhextar is a criminal! Justice shall prevail!' Rhextar has quite a few wounds. Kalurin: [79][===|===|===|=--] [HP:757/948 MN:522/792 MV:482/490] <16339gold 281cps 18hour> You fire from 'Seeker', the Long Arm of the Law and hit Rhextar with a couple shots. 'Seeker', the Long Arm of the Law's smash DISMEMBERS Rhextar! Your wrath maims Rhextar! Rhextar parries your attack. Rhextar parries your attack. Rhextar parries your attack. Rhextar parries your attack. Rhextar dodges your attack. Your tsuki strike hits Rhextar. Rhextar's poison scratches him. Rhextar's acidic bite decimates you! Rhextar's acidic bite maims you! Rhextar's acidic bite devastates you! You dodge Rhextar's attack. You are burned by the corrosive acid on "Ssluthril" the Axe of the Leviathain's Passing adorned with a black heart. Rhextar's acidic bite scratches you. You feel "Ssluthril" the Axe of the Leviathain's Passing adorned with Xanthak's Eye drawing your life away. Rhextar's life drain grazes you. You are burned by the corrosive acid on "Ssluthril" the Axe of the Leviathain's Passing adorned with Xanthak's Eye. Rhextar's acidic bite scratches you. Rhextar has some big nasty wounds and scratches. Kalurin: [68][===|===|===|---] [HP:651/948 MN:522/792 MV:482/490] <16339gold 281cps 18hour> The night has begun. The Death Shroud tightens about you. You phase out of existence. Rhextar has some big nasty wounds and scratches. Kalurin: [69][===|===|===|---] [HP:655/948 MN:528/792 MV:490/490] <16339gold 282cps 19hour> fl The Blood Guard's slash mauls Rhextar. The Blood Guard's slash mauls Rhextar. Rhextar parries your attack. Rhextar dodges your attack. Your wrath MUTILATES Rhextar! Your wrath LACERATES Rhextar! Rhextar parries your attack. Your wrath devastates Rhextar! Your tsuki strike scratches Rhextar. Rhextar's poison scratches him. The Blood Guard jumps in front of you! The Eye of Fear emits an aura of terror! Rhextar has some big nasty wounds and scratches. Kalurin: [69][===|===|===|---] [HP:655/948 MN:528/792 MV:490/490] <16339gold 282cps 19hour> sca You scan all around. You scan north. You scan east. *** Range 1 (east) *** A member of the Blackwatch Guard is here, patrolling the Village. *** Range 3 (east) *** A KNIGHT emissary is here to recruit candidates for the training camp. *** Range 5 (east) *** Corax the Sage is here, sitting astride a warhorse. *** Range 6 (east) *** (White Aura) A member of the Blackwatch Guard is here, guarding the gates of Blackwatch Village. You scan south. You scan west. *** Range 5 (west) *** A member of the Blackwatch Guard is here, standing post at the entrance to the Fort. You scan up. You scan down. Rhextar has some big nasty wounds and scratches. Kalurin: [69][===|===|===|---] [HP:655/948 MN:528/792 MV:490/490] <16339gold 282cps 19hour> Fort Blackwatch is [NEXUS] controlled. Players near you: Corax The Eastern Square <PK> Kalurin The Western Gate <PK> Rhextar (WANTED) The Western Gate Rhextar has some big nasty wounds and scratches. Kalurin: [69][===|===|===|---] [HP:655/948 MN:528/792 MV:490/490] <16339gold 282cps 19hour> You flee from combat! The Western Guard Tower A tower is constructed above the gate, allowing for rotations of guardsmen from Fort Blackwatch to maintain a lookout into and outside of the village. The tower is furnished with a small table for the guards to rest at between patrols. [Exits: down] The Blood Guard flies in. [HP:655/948 MN:528/792 MV:489/490] <16339gold 282cps 19hour> d dir rhex You scan all around. You scan north. You scan east. You scan south. You scan west. You scan up. You scan down. *** Range 1 (down) *** (WANTED) (Translucent) (White Aura) Rhextar the Knight of Fury is here. (White Aura) A member of the Blackwatch Guard is here, guarding the gates of Blackwatch Village. [HP:655/948 MN:528/792 MV:489/490] <16339gold 282cps 19hour> The Western Gate The western gate of Blackwatch Village, made of polished black marble, stands open to allow traffic to and from Fort Blackwatch. The gateguards are polite and friendly, but keep pedestrians and merchants moving through the gate. The white stone walls of the village extend to the north and south, enclosing the town. [Exits: east west up] (WANTED) (Translucent) (White Aura) Rhextar the Knight of Fury is here. (White Aura) A member of the Blackwatch Guard is here, guarding the gates of Blackwatch Village. The Blood Guard flies in. You yell 'Help! Rhextar just bodyslammed into me!' You evade Rhextar's bodyslam, causing him to fall flat on his face. Rhextar's bodyslam misses you. Rhextar has some big nasty wounds and scratches. Kalurin: [69][===|===|===|---] [HP:655/948 MN:528/792 MV:488/490] <16339gold 282cps 19hour> Rhextar is blinded by the dirt in his eyes! Your kicked dirt scratches Rhextar. Rhextar has some big nasty wounds and scratches. Kalurin: [69][===|===|===|---] [HP:655/948 MN:528/792 MV:488/490] <16339gold 282cps 19hour> The Blood Guard (Model) yells wildly 'Rhextar is a criminal! Justice shall prevail!' You fire from 'Seeker', the Long Arm of the Law and hit Rhextar with a couple shots. 'Seeker', the Long Arm of the Law's smash LACERATES Rhextar! Rhextar dodges your attack. Rhextar dodges your attack. Your wrath maims Rhextar! Your wrath MUTILATES Rhextar! Your tsuki strike mauls Rhextar. Rhextar's poison scratches him. You dodge Rhextar's attack. Rhextar's acidic bite maims you! Rhextar's acidic bite MUTILATES you! You dodge Rhextar's attack. Rhextar's acidic bite MUTILATES you! Rhextar's eyes dart madly as he panics. Rhextar looks pretty hurt. Kalurin: [57][===|===|=--|---] [HP:545/948 MN:528/792 MV:488/490] <16339gold 282cps 19hour> The Blood Guard's slash mauls Rhextar. The Blood Guard's slash mauls Rhextar. The Blood Guard's slash wounds Rhextar. Rhextar dodges your attack. Your wrath devastates Rhextar! Your wrath maims Rhextar! Your wrath maims Rhextar! Your tsuki strike grazes Rhextar. A winged air dragon spits an arc of energy! Your lightning bolt grazes Rhextar. Rhextar's poison scratches him. The Blood Guard jumps in front of you! Rhextar is in awful condition. Kalurin: [57][===|===|=--|---] [HP:545/948 MN:528/792 MV:488/490] <16339gold 282cps 19hour> The Blood Guard's slash mauls Rhextar. The Blood Guard sends Rhextar sprawling with a powerful bash. The Blood Guard's bash decimates Rhextar! You fire from 'Seeker', the Long Arm of the Law and hit Rhextar with a couple shots. 'Seeker', the Long Arm of the Law's smash LACERATES Rhextar! Your wrath MUTILATES Rhextar! Your wrath devastates Rhextar! Your wrath maims Rhextar! You stop short of a killing blow. As Rhextar loses his consciousness you call onto guards to capture him. [ADJUDICATOR]: 'Kalurin has captured Rhextar!' You have gained 100 talismans in service of ADJUDICATOR. That was pretty one sided. Since I got off a capture, I manage to get 3 pieces of equipment from confiscate. We go at it again. I wonder if I'll need to use any class skills in the next fight.. You yell 'Help! Rhextar just charged into me!' Rhextar charges into you with his horns and tosses you into the air! Rhextar's charge attack DISMEMBERS you! Rhextar slashes at you with "Ssluthril" the Axe of the Leviathain's Passing adorned with a black heart while you are in the air! Rhextar's acidic bite devastates you! Rhextar's acidic bite maims you! You dodge Rhextar's attack. You feel "Ssluthril" the Axe of the Leviathain's Passing adorned with Xanthak's Eye drawing your life away. Rhextar's life drain grazes you. You are burned by the corrosive acid on "Ssluthril" the Axe of the Leviathain's Passing adorned with Xanthak's Eye. Rhextar's acidic bite grazes you. Rhextar has a few scratches. Kalurin: [85][===|===|===|==-] [HP:812/948 MN:733/792 MV:462/480] <24950gold 422cps 10hour> w You fire from 'Seeker', the Long Arm of the Law and hit Rhextar with a couple shots. 'Seeker', the Long Arm of the Law's smash DISMEMBERS Rhextar! Your wrath MUTILATES Rhextar! Your wrath MUTILATES Rhextar! Rhextar dodges your attack. Rhextar parries your attack. Rhextar parries your attack. Your tsuki strike scratches Rhextar. Rhextar's poison scratches him. You dodge Rhextar's attack. Rhextar's acidic bite maims you! You dodge Rhextar's attack. You dodge Rhextar's attack. Rhextar has some small wounds and bruises. Kalurin: [82][===|===|===|=--] [HP:779/948 MN:733/792 MV:462/480] <24950gold 422cps 10hour> The Blood Guard's slash mauls Rhextar. The Blood Guard's slash wounds Rhextar. Your wrath maims Rhextar! Rhextar parries your attack. Rhextar dodges your attack. Your wrath MUTILATES Rhextar! Your wrath MUTILATES Rhextar! Your tsuki strike grazes Rhextar. A winged air dragon spits an arc of energy! Your lightning bolt injures Rhextar. Rhextar's poison scratches him. The Blood Guard jumps in front of you! Rhextar has quite a few wounds. Kalurin: [82][===|===|===|=--] [HP:779/948 MN:733/792 MV:462/480] <24950gold 422cps 10hour> dir No way! You are still fighting! Rhextar has quite a few wounds. Kalurin: [82][===|===|===|=--] [HP:779/948 MN:733/792 MV:462/480] <24950gold 422cps 10hour> Rhextar is blinded by the dirt in his eyes! Your kicked dirt grazes Rhextar. Rhextar has quite a few wounds. Kalurin: [82][===|===|===|=--] [HP:779/948 MN:733/792 MV:462/480] <24950gold 422cps 10hour> The Blood Guard's slash mauls Rhextar. The Blood Guard's slash mauls Rhextar. The Blood Guard's slash mauls Rhextar. You fire from 'Seeker', the Long Arm of the Law and hit Rhextar with a couple shots. 'Seeker', the Long Arm of the Law's smash DISMEMBERS Rhextar! Your wrath LACERATES Rhextar! Your wrath MUTILATES Rhextar! Rhextar parries your attack. Your wrath MUTILATES Rhextar! Your wrath MUTILATES Rhextar! Your tsuki strike injures Rhextar. Rhextar's poison scratches him. The Blood Guard jumps in front of you! Rhextar's eyes dart madly as he panics. Rhextar has some big nasty wounds and scratches. Kalurin: [82][===|===|===|=--] [HP:779/948 MN:733/792 MV:462/480] <24950gold 422cps 10hour> Rhextar's eyes begin to blaze as his mind descends into oblivion! Rhextar has quite a few wounds. Kalurin: [82][===|===|===|=--] [HP:779/948 MN:733/792 MV:462/480] <24950gold 422cps 10hour> Rhextar seems to come to his senses and calms down. Rhextar rubs the dirt out of his eyes. Rhextar looks less sickly. Rhextar has quite a few wounds. Kalurin: [82][===|===|===|=--] [HP:783/948 MN:737/792 MV:480/480] <24950gold 423cps 11hour> The Blood Guard's slash mauls Rhextar. The Blood Guard's slash mauls Rhextar. Your wrath MUTILATES Rhextar! Your wrath MUTILATES Rhextar! Your wrath MUTILATES Rhextar! Rhextar roars in fury and ignores your feeble blow. Your tsuki strike injures Rhextar. You dodge Rhextar's attack. You dodge Rhextar's attack. You parry Rhextar's attack. You dodge Rhextar's attack. You feel "Ssluthril" the Axe of the Leviathain's Passing adorned with Xanthak's Eye drawing your life away. Rhextar's life drain scratches you. You are burned by the corrosive acid on "Ssluthril" the Axe of the Leviathain's Passing adorned with Xanthak's Eye. Rhextar's acidic bite scratches you. Rhextar has some big nasty wounds and scratches. Kalurin: [81][===|===|===|=--] [HP:777/948 MN:737/792 MV:480/480] <24950gold 423cps 11hour> dir Rhextar kicks dirt in your eyes! Rhextar's kicked dirt scratches you. You can't see a thing! Kalurin: [81][===|===|===|=--] [HP:773/948 MN:737/792 MV:480/480] <24950gold 423cps 11hour> Someone is blinded by the dirt in his eyes! Your kicked dirt scratches someone. Someone's slash mauls someone. Someone's slash decimates someone! Someone's slash wounds someone. Someone's slash decimates someone! Someone lets out a roar as the missiles only seem to give him more vigor. You fire from something and hit someone with no shots. Something's smash misses someone. Someone parries your attack. Your wrath LACERATES someone! Your wrath MUTILATES someone! Your wrath MUTILATES someone! Someone roars in fury and ignores your feeble blow. Your tsuki strike mauls someone. Someone's acidic bite LACERATES you! Someone's acidic bite LACERATES you! Someone's acidic bite LACERATES someone! Someone's acidic bite DISMEMBERS someone! You parry someone's attack. Someone's eyes dart madly as he panics. Kalurin: [71][===|===|===|---] [HP:681/948 MN:737/792 MV:480/480] <24950gold 423cps 11hour> Someone's slash mauls someone. Someone's slash mauls someone. Your wrath MUTILATES someone! Your wrath MUTILATES someone! Someone roars in fury and ignores your feeble blow. Someone parries your attack. Your tsuki strike scratches someone. Someone's acidic bite DISMEMBERS you! Someone's acidic bite DISMEMBERS you! Someone's acidic bite DISMEMBERS you! Someone's acidic bite DISMEMBERS you! Someone's acidic bite LACERATES you! You parry someone's attack. You feel something drawing your life away. Someone's life drain grazes you. You are burned by the corrosive acid on something. Someone's acidic bite scratches you. Kalurin: [42][===|===|---|---] [HP:407/948 MN:737/792 MV:480/480] <24950gold 423cps 11hour> fl Someone knocks you senseless with a full on bodyslam! Someone's bodyslam mauls you. Kalurin: [40][===|==-|---|---] [HP:386/948 MN:737/792 MV:480/480] <24950gold 423cps 11hour> Someone's slash mauls someone. Someone's slash wounds someone. Someone's slash wounds someone. Someone lets out a roar as the missiles only seem to give him more vigor. You fire from something and hit someone with a couple shots. Something's smash misses someone. Your wrath MUTILATES someone! Your wrath MUTILATES someone! Someone parries your attack. Your wrath LACERATES someone! Your tsuki strike grazes someone. Someone jumps in front of you! Kalurin: [40][===|==-|---|---] [HP:386/948 MN:737/792 MV:480/480] <24950gold 423cps 11hour> Someone's slash mauls someone. Someone's slash wounds someone. Your wrath maims someone! Your wrath LACERATES someone! Your wrath MUTILATES someone! Your wrath MUTILATES someone! Your wrath LACERATES someone! Your tsuki strike wounds someone. Someone jumps in front of you! Kalurin: [40][===|==-|---|---] [HP:386/948 MN:737/792 MV:480/480] <24950gold 423cps 11hour> You evade someone's bodyslam, causing him to fall flat on his face. Someone's bodyslam misses you. Kalurin: [40][===|==-|---|---] [HP:386/948 MN:737/792 MV:480/480] <24950gold 423cps 11hour> Someone's slash mauls someone. Someone is stunned, but will probably recover. Someone's slash devastates someone! Someone stops short of a killing blow. As someone loses his consciousness you call onto guards to capture him. [ADJUDICATOR]: 'Kalurin has captured Rhextar!' You have gained 125 talismans in service of ADJUDICATOR. Someone yells 'Justice be praised, Rhextar has been captured by Kalurin!' Guess I'll just stand here toe to toe with a dual axe wielding raged minotaur Syndicate.. I think I would have lost this if not for the blood guard, honestly. Link to comment
Rygothran Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 Just throwing my half cent in here... what Anume said is absolutely correct. It took some time for me when I first became an immortal to understand that some of the things she said to me weren't offensive but a matter of fact and I was just being overly defensive about it. I have always looked at f0xx in the same light so I tend not to take offense at what he says. Sometimes though... it sure is difficult because I think he is being offensive on purpose. 😥 Link to comment
'tarako Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 9 hours ago, f0xx said: If you've played so many ninjas, and ninjas are so OP and designed to never die, their records must surely be very impressive. The designed not to die comment is about druids. And it isn't about how amazing my ninjas where. It is about how much stronger they where compared to other characters I've played. If you're usually a 1 to 1 pker, and suddenly with one class you are 5 to 1, you probably shouldn't assume it's all your skills level. Link to comment
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