f0xx Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 3 hours ago, Trick said: Kalurin: [71][===|===|===|---] [HP:681/948 MN:737/792 MV:480/480] <24950gold 423cps 11hour> Someone's slash mauls someone. Someone's slash mauls someone. Your wrath MUTILATES someone! Your wrath MUTILATES someone! Someone roars in fury and ignores your feeble blow. Someone parries your attack. Your tsuki strike scratches someone. Someone's acidic bite DISMEMBERS you! Someone's acidic bite DISMEMBERS you! Someone's acidic bite DISMEMBERS you! Someone's acidic bite DISMEMBERS you! Someone's acidic bite LACERATES you! You parry someone's attack. You feel something drawing your life away. Someone's life drain grazes you. You are burned by the corrosive acid on something. Someone's acidic bite scratches you. Kalurin: [42][===|===|---|---] [HP:407/948 MN:737/792 MV:480/480] <=== ~300 HP lost in 1 round. <24950gold 423cps 11hour> fl Someone knocks you senseless with a full on bodyslam! Someone's bodyslam mauls you. Kalurin: [40][===|==-|---|---] [HP:386/948 MN:737/792 MV:480/480] <24950gold 423cps 11hour> Someone's slash mauls someone. Someone's slash wounds someone. Someone's slash wounds someone. Someone lets out a roar as the missiles only seem to give him more vigor. You fire from something and hit someone with a couple shots. Something's smash misses someone. Your wrath MUTILATES someone! Your wrath MUTILATES someone! Someone parries your attack. Your wrath LACERATES someone! Your tsuki strike grazes someone. Someone jumps in front of you! Kalurin: [40][===|==-|---|---] [HP:386/948 MN:737/792 MV:480/480] <24950gold 423cps 11hour> Someone's slash mauls someone. Someone's slash wounds someone. Your wrath maims someone! Your wrath LACERATES someone! Your wrath MUTILATES someone! Your wrath MUTILATES someone! Your wrath LACERATES someone! Your tsuki strike wounds someone. Someone jumps in front of you! Kalurin: [40][===|==-|---|---] [HP:386/948 MN:737/792 MV:480/480] <24950gold 423cps 11hour> You evade someone's bodyslam, causing him to fall flat on his face. Someone's bodyslam misses you. Kalurin: [40][===|==-|---|---] [HP:386/948 MN:737/792 MV:480/480] <24950gold 423cps 11hour> Someone's slash mauls someone. Someone is stunned, but will probably recover. Someone's slash devastates someone! Someone stops short of a killing blow. As someone loses his consciousness you call onto guards to capture him. [ADJUDICATOR]: 'Kalurin has captured Rhextar!' You have gained 125 talismans in service of ADJUDICATOR. Someone yells 'Justice be praised, Rhextar has been captured by Kalurin!' 3 hours ago, Trick said: Guess I'll just stand here toe to toe with a dual axe wielding raged minotaur Syndicate.. I think I would have lost this if not for the blood guard, honestly. I'll agree with that 😛 Pretty fun log though. I would have been pissed if I was that zerk. Link to comment
Trick Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 Good thing I didn’t need to use any of my class skills to win the fight.. ya know.. like a class is designed to do... 😁 Link to comment
f0xx Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 54 minutes ago, Trick said: Good thing I didn’t need to use any of my class skills to win the fight.. ya know.. like a class is designed to do... 😁 I don't get your point. You won because your guard jumped before you. You couldn't do anything at that point anyway because you were lagged. Now if you talk about the first part of the log, where you didn't do much.... I don't see him doing much either. No rage, no dirt, no haymaker, no weapon cleave, no roar. He charged twice and bashed twice (both very bad decisions), while you were outdamaging him. Yes, if you fight an opponent like that, you don't need much to win. Link to comment
P_body Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 I'm not agreeing with @f0xxbut I am disagreeing with you in the log @Trick few reasons. 1) cabal gear you were wearing was half low ac gear. You weren't naked and only in cabal eq. You were still wearing SOME of the best gear in the game. 2) You're a high dex race vs a low dex race. Your ac and general defensiveness vs a dual axe wielder as a two handed weapon SHOULD be superior, shouldn't it? 2.5) given 1 and 2, looks like your ac was actually in a pretty good place. So him missing etc makes sense. Also your weapon of 2h sword vs his dual axe gives you much better defenses. Again, makes sense how you COULD be out damaging him not due to high output, but low damage received from good defense. 3) he was blinded half the fight where you were not. What's the age old saying about zerks everyone? Seriously, someone say it so I don't have to say it...it starts with.."A blind..." 4) So again, you out damaging a low defense, dual axe wielding unraged, BLIND zerk, esp when you have 2.5+ extra defenses on him..(Two handed, blood guard, and parry with an axe is very poor defense indeed). 5) wouldn't you admit his tactics were POOR? I thought you said this was a log where equal skill equal tactics and the opponent didn't make mistakes.. No dirt, poor defensive approach, focused blood guard a couple rounds and didn't flee, raged when blind like a noob instead of fleeing (sorry player of Rhextar, I admit I am being harsh. That tactic CAN work but it's already high risk and your setup only added to high risk with low payoff. Not the right move here imo) 6) What skills in your class set would have helped here? He charge and body's am locked you as much as possible. You got off dirt, your most needed skill...and we're lagged for much of the rest. zerks fault for not blinding you too before lagging..so again...what other ninja skill would have been useful? Push? Hardly. Dusts..already poisoned and blind = nope. Caltraps? Nerve? Again lag locked. You'd be better off blinding and trying to flee and return...but bc of lag lock you only got flee out when the tick was nearly done...so...what skills here would have so dramatically helped? Bc if they COULD, it should have taken a fun fight to an absolute massacre, but I don't see what else you could use. Note: I was gonna be cheeky and say something about assassinate, but I want you to know I say all of the above with honest intention to understand your point of view, while respectfully disagreeing with your conclusion based on current evidence I'm seeing... Oh damn..I really am agreeing with @f0xx aren't I? Link to comment
Implementor Kassieti Posted September 14, 2019 Implementor Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 Please make a new thread instead of further derailing this one. Link to comment
Trick Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 Okay, @P_body. You're both wrong. Link to comment
Implementor Anume Posted September 14, 2019 Implementor Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 I actually agree with trick here. Ninjas do not know axes. A raged serk should tear a ninja apart dual wielding axes unless the serk is naked and the ninja is fully decked and has already debuffed him some. Link to comment
P_body Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 I stand corrected. What do I know? I figured the higher defense would make a bigger deal. Please forgive me! 🙇♂️ P.S. Someone with a zerk log on and fight me so I can test this out... @Kassieti. This thread is so far derailed it's basically a new thread. Maybe we could move this log instead so all the discussion stays in one place? Link to comment
'tarako Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 That's the whole point. A defense melee oriented char should out defend an offensive melee oriented character. A ninja is a rogue and should not be held to the same defense offense bar of a dedicated melee char. This is a raged zerk dual wielding axes. This is not an area where a ninja should ever be able to just stand there and out damage the zerk almost 2 to 1. Link to comment
'tarako Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 Also @P_body the only thing he is wearing that might be considered best in slot is the isle shroud he is wesring. Everything else is basic 50 reequip gear honestly. Even his weapons are low average damage. Link to comment
f0xx Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Anume said: I actually agree with trick here. Ninjas do not know axes. A raged serk should tear a ninja apart dual wielding axes unless the serk is naked and the ninja is fully decked and has already debuffed him some. I agree with that, and he does tear the ninja when he rages. Too bad he is not raged 90% of the log. Link to comment
Lloth Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 A warning was given. Link to comment
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