Anonymous Posted December 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2019 That's the point. There was clearly a skill or buff that was not used for that fight. In a game like fl with so many intertwined synergies and stats I don't believe for a second that rng alone would let puerilaug skip through spell turning like that. Look at cleric logs, it just does not happen that way. Gilthok Link to comment
Kyzarius Posted December 20, 2019 Report Share Posted December 20, 2019 You do know that spell turning is not 100%. And has a chance to not reflect. Especially I believe if the caster is casting at a higher level than you. Link to comment
Anonymous Posted December 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2019 25 minutes ago, Kyzarius said: You do know that spell turning is not 100%. And has a chance to not reflect. Especially I believe if the caster is casting at a higher level than you. I said exactly that earlier, what I do know is spell turning is not 0%, which these logs are examples of. And do you mean like necros have a skill that buffs their spell level for over 200 hours? It's almost like I said it's skills stacking with eq for unintentional benefits, like ignoring spell turning completely. Higher level spells can go through turning, but it still has a chance to reflect m, it won't just go around it. A spell can go through spell turning, and still drop turning. That is not what is going on. Gilthok Link to comment
Unknown Brother Posted December 20, 2019 Report Share Posted December 20, 2019 Next time you notice this, just have detect magic on and look at him. Do the same when it is reflecting again. Figure out which one is out of place. You seem pretty convinced it's a buff he has, but I can't imagine what could give someone the ability to cut through spell turning. Link to comment
Magick Posted December 20, 2019 Report Share Posted December 20, 2019 57 minutes ago, Kyzarius said: You do know that spell turning is not 100%. And has a chance to not reflect. Especially I believe if the caster is casting at a higher level than you. Not sure if it's changed, spell turning should be like prof-15% to turn, not affected by level. 26 minutes ago, Anonymous said: And do you mean like necros have a skill that buffs their spell level for over 200 hours? Necro spell tap (+1 Mal, not all levels - acid blast is aff) lasts about 90 hours. More if Savant. Longest saffect I can think of. Could you remind me which do you mean? Link to comment
Anonymous Posted December 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2019 We wish to put this to bed right now. We have a higher spell level then this dwarf. Our Dark Prince offers us a grand blessing providing us with great luck. We have traveled the lands to gain a combination of things to make all of our castings that of the Gods! We have skill. We do not just go through his shield all of the time. We simply have put the work in to be the best mage of death the Dark Prince has seen. This needs to stop. Puerilaug! Link to comment
Anonymous Posted December 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2019 We will add. We battled Ragnomar whom has also put in work with its prayers. We were not able to just get through his shield with ease, though we did a few times. We managed to put him to sleep too, and had his throat not been slit that may have been interesting! PUT IN THE WORK. Puerilaug Link to comment
Anonymous Posted December 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2019 You managed to slip some spells through. These logs show 2 things. One is you slipped every spell through, and two (and this is critical) your casting was not interacting with spell turning at all. When you cast into spell turning, it will deteriorate the spell turning even if it goes through. Your spells are not doing that. Your targeted spells are not interacting with spell turning at all. I have been the invoker vs cleric where i was casting at level 55, yes you can get spells through, but never anything close to 100% even with a steep level advantage. There has never been any combination of anything that let's you not interact with spell turning on a targeted spell. I'm also casting also the 51. Also acting like this was some grand plan is not accurate either. You literally told me in game that you where shocked I didn't use spell turning, then acted shocked when I told you I was. It is ok to say you stumbled on an interesting synergy. You will never show me a log where a caster blows through spell turning 100% of their casts. The third log posted represents the only time across many skirmishes where I have reflected anything. So in that log, what was different on your end, because nothing was different on my end. Because the very next skirmish was back to 100% bypass rate. Gilthok Link to comment
Anonymous Posted December 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2019 56 minutes ago, Magick said: Necro spell tap (+1 Mal, not all levels - acid blast is aff) lasts about 90 hours. More if Savant. Longest saffect I can think of. Could you remind me which do you mean? I could have been viewing it after being hit with multiple reverse times. Gilthok Link to comment
Kyzarius Posted December 20, 2019 Report Share Posted December 20, 2019 He is also a demon doesnt that give you spell level? And has a piece if spell level gear... My copy of the code is on another pc I wont have access to for a week. I can confirm then. I do t believe the check for turning g has changed. Though I have played a lot of clerics. And spell turning is NOT 100% ever. It is also in my mind balancing that someone can pierce your defenses. Link to comment
Mmm Coffee Posted December 20, 2019 Report Share Posted December 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Anonymous said: We simply have put the work in to be the best mage of death the Dark Prince has seen. This needs to stop. 2nd best Link to comment
'tarako Posted December 20, 2019 Report Share Posted December 20, 2019 I played a reaver invoker recently and fought a sigil cleric. I'm not sure what is going on with this, but I was casting at, what I believe, is level 55 Afflictive, with the reaver T skill, and I barely got one in five spells through spell turning. I don't think there is a combination of gear, and cabal skills, possible that could put his Afflictive spells higher than what I had on Tenebris. I also fought ragnomar and subjugant, but didn't rely much on targeted spells. Not weighing in on these logs, just offering my experience of high spell level vs spell turning. Link to comment
Anonymous Posted December 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2019 6 minutes ago, Kyzarius said: He is also a demon doesnt that give you spell level? And has a piece if spell level gear... My copy of the code is on another pc I wont have access to for a week. I can confirm then. I do t believe the check for turning g has changed. Though I have played a lot of clerics. And spell turning is NOT 100% ever. It is also in my mind balancing that someone can pierce your defenses. Have you ever been in a fight where it was 0% across multiple engagements? Gilthok Link to comment
Izzzzy Posted December 20, 2019 Report Share Posted December 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, 'tarako said: I played a reaver invoker recently and fought a sigil cleric. I'm not sure what is going on with this, but I was casting at, what I believe, is level 55 Afflictive, with the reaver T skill, and I barely got one in five spells through spell turning. I don't think there is a combination of gear, and cabal skills, possible that could put his Afflictive spells higher than what I had on Tenebris. I also fought ragnomar and subjugant, but didn't rely much on targeted spells. Not weighing in on these logs, just offering my experience of high spell level vs spell turning. Intelligence my dear Watson DEMON VS DWARF! Link to comment
Kyzarius Posted December 20, 2019 Report Share Posted December 20, 2019 Just now, Anonymous said: Have you ever been in a fight where it was 0% across multiple engagements? Gilthok Against a vamp yea. He kept hitting me. I got the occasional turn. This was a long time ago though. The thing is I doubt it's a bug, but thats just conjecture. If someone has the old code they could just post spell turning.. Link to comment
Anonymous Posted December 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2019 20 minutes ago, Iznazti said: Intelligence my dear Watson DEMON VS DWARF! Intelligence doesn't impact spell turnings effectivity, or there would not be a log of me turning it 100% of the time. There would also never be an fg spell turning anything. Gilthok Link to comment
Kyzarius Posted December 20, 2019 Report Share Posted December 20, 2019 Just now, Anonymous said: Intelligence doesn't impact spell turnings effectivity, or there would not be a log of me turning it 100% of the time. There would also never be an fg spell turning anything. Gilthok demon;'s arent the smartest. honestly i dont think its spell level any more, or int.. Link to comment
Anonymous Posted December 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2019 Gilthok, I'm experiencing similar results as you, one reflect and approximately 10 unchallenged spells piercing spell turning. It's abnormal compared to the magnitude of mage fights I've had prior to this, Tenebris included. All of which had superior intelligence and spell level over me. Spell turning is not perfect however it is quite reliable however in this case, I would rather use steel shards due to the failure rate I'm experiencing. I'm collecting logs and data to post on prayer so they can try provide an answer as it's not obvious what is different in this case except a certain item and qrace. Best we keep it on prayer forum as it's not overly constructive posting here. Ragnomar Link to comment
'tarako Posted December 20, 2019 Report Share Posted December 20, 2019 11 minutes ago, Anonymous said: Gilthok, I'm experiencing similar results as you, one reflect and approximately 10 unchallenged spells piercing spell turning. It's abnormal compared to the magnitude of mage fights I've had prior to this, Tenebris included. All of which had superior intelligence and spell level over me. Spell turning is not perfect however it is quite reliable however in this case, I would rather use steel shards due to the failure rate I'm experiencing. I'm collecting logs and data to post on prayer so they can try provide an answer as it's not obvious what is different in this case except a certain item and qrace. Best we keep it on prayer forum as it's not overly constructive posting here. Any logs? Curious of your perspective with tenebris Link to comment
'tarako Posted December 20, 2019 Report Share Posted December 20, 2019 What is puerilaug's eq? Link to comment
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