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Brsingr, just take your time, bro. I was your age, dated a girl for 10 months, dead set on marrying her, etc., but things didn't work out. After that, I didn't date for years. I know what you're going through.

The only advice I can give you is this:

1. Slow doooooown.

2. Listen to all these people, 'specially the married ones. They obviously know what they're talking about.

Drama's not as awesome as you think. People in middle school especially think that their lives should be like the crappy WB shows they watch, and thusly create unwanted drama.

Good luck.

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1)I know. If she breaks my heart (which she probably wont), I'll get the hell over it. It probably wont be quick, but it'll happen.

2) I am about to turn 15, and she just turned 13. What I meant to say earlier is that I have a car, but I cannot legally drive it. it is a saturn, my mom drives a honda, and my dad doen't live with us.

3) here is a response to each of your points:

A) what does a cold shower have to do with this?

B) I am in no rush to marriage and sex. (they should always be one)(but they're not for most people.) Also, I sleep over at her (and her brother's, and her other brother's, and her parent's) house so often It's like I live there. probably 5 out of 7 days in a week.

C) I bought her a $40 diamond ring, before.(as I didn't have a job, $40 was a commitment to me. I have a job now. well, 3 jobs, but only one can legally be considered "a job"). I Have had two years to consider this, and I am pretty sure I want to marry her.

D)I'ts not long distance, I am on a trip at the moment.

E) Already know that, bud. already know.

F) the friends that know her approve.

4)I AM confident, and I definitely am not winey. just curious if my situation is normal. That jerk that picks on the undeclassmen? last freshman friday, me being the freshman, he tried to beat me up. Pinched his nerve and dropped his ***. I honestly dont care about all the girls in my school, no matter what they look like. I care about my friend's sister. (who, from this point forward shall be known as 'raquel', because I am tired of typing "my friend's sister").

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It's official. I'm coming to Crypticant for all my women advice. D really makes me think. People your age dating at all scares me, I say just hold on to the hormones and wait a couple years. And then another couple years to get married.

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Cold showers put everything in perspective. If it's exceptionally cold, it will clear your head, because you won't be able to think about anything else.

You're 15? You were just 14 oh, let me count, 16 posts ago. Time flies on the forum, I guess. You can also ride a bike at 60 miles per hour. No, at 35 miles per hour. Which is it? You got picked on and pinched a guy's nerve and dropped his ***? And you're not suspended?

Look, if you want me to take you seriously, it's probably best to be honest here. Exaggeration is not an admirable quality.

And a $40 diamond ring? Look, job or not, here's how it breaks down:

Minimum wage: $5.15/hr (even though I don't know anyone who makes only minimum wage, but regardless...)

$40.00 @ 5.15/hour = 7.76 hours.

So, what you're saying is, "I love you so much, my lifetime commitment to you is worth precisely 7.76 hours of work."

Uh, I think you have dramatically missed practically every one of my points.

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read more clearly. ALmost 15, and the diamond ring was just a valentines gift. I have a job because I got a working permit. and it's 35. I was thinking about 7 miles, and accidentally put 7 minutes.

Oh, and who said I didn't get suspended?

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It may be frustrating, but it's true - listen to us old fogies; we may actually know a thing or two.

So, you're going to wait until you get married to have sex? 1. I seriously doubt that's going to happen 2. Like Crypt said, try before you buy. What if she sucks? Or doesn't, I guess as it might be... At any rate, I agree with Crypt, it's a good thing to live together with someone for at least a year before getting married (and don't tell me you'd plan on living with someone and not sleeping with them).

Anyway, good luck to you - I hope you take our advice to heart as we aren't trying to pick on you (much) and really are sincere in what we say.

P.S. I am really not expensive. I spend to save. And really, it's the baby that is expensive (and those cute outfits and shoes and bibs and ....), not me... :D

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As I said before, no woman thinks she's expensive.

Look at the differences:

1) Women spend more on clothing. Women's clothes are just flat more expensive than men's. It's the way it is. And women have a lot more clothes than men. Shoes and underwear included.

2) Women have makeup. Fingernail polish (apparently a minimum of 30 bottles is "necessary"). "Feminine products". More hair stuff than you can imagine. Shampoo. Conditioner. Hot oil. Colorant. Men have soap. Maybe a bottle of shampoo.

3) Most women don't change their own oil, fix their own computer, build their own furniture, or haggle with pawnbrokers for a cheap TV. Nearly all men do.

4) A woman is not complete unless she has magazine subscriptions. At least one. Generally more.

5) A man can subsist off of an extra large pizza for up to two weeks.

6) Men will drink the cheapest beer available if necessary. If we can't afford it, we will find a way to make our own.

7) Men don't need curtains. We also don't need photographs, carpet, clean furniture, soft toilet paper or hot water. Historically, we have made due with what we have.

Man, I could go on for days...But hopefully my point is illustrated by now. :D

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a few years is.. what? two' date=' three? By the way, none of my friends even know this girl, excluding my best friend. (her brother). They are all at killeen high, and she is at KAJA, A private school I went to the year before last. so, WC, I am sure that your situation will not happen to me. she is 13, one year younger than me, and I know she hasn't gone out with anybody in the last 3 years. for a fact. Thereby making her NOT "a lying, misleading, cheating whore"[/quote']

First, youre 14, she's 13, you guys really shouldn't be 'dating' at this age, it's oh so not worth it.

Anyways, what made her a lying, misleading, cheating whore was not past relationships, it was congruent 'relationships'. I was this girls first relationship. Anyways, at your age people are changing so rapidly, and I don't mean physically, I mean personailty, mentally and all that. Hell, people are changing so drasticly at twenty three. This girl I met when she just left home and came to college, and she got more freedom than she knew what to do with and lost it, completely different. The point is, what happens when your relationship falls apart? Will a few months, a year, of this girl be worth a lifetime of friendship with this buddy? I am still best friends with my middleschool bestfriend, and let me tell you, nothing would be worth jepordizing that.

WC

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As I said before, no woman thinks she's expensive.

Look at the differences:

blah blah blah..

Women are expensive but only for themselves. A woman should be able to pay for her own clothes, shampoo, soap, hot oil treatments, nail polish, and all that other stuff you listed without help...not that expensive for you guys.

If a woman asks you to pay for any of that stuff you've got the wrong woman. And if you offer then it's voluntary.

For the record I only own four bottles of nail polish, have no magazine subscriptions, have assembled furniture, and lived for a year on fifty dollars a month including class art supplies. (And my mom changes her own oil :P ...I don't own a car.)

P.S. The above was a JOKE not an argument. :D

Back to the point...

About a point brsingr made earlier "All the friends that know her approve..." The only friends that know her is her brother...

But anyway I've got to agree with most of the others that no matter how insanely important these emotions seem now, you're 14. You've lived probably less than a fourth of your life, marriage is a bit lofty at this point. But dating her, I mean just try and re-address it with the brother but if he's not okay with it he's just not okay with it. Also I'm guessing her being only 13 has something to do with it (she's his BABY sister).

EDIT: I forgot what I really wanted to say. WHY do you have another girlfriend if you're obsessed with your friend's sister? That seems more than a little unfair to your girlfriend.

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ok, look. I liked raquel first, right? but I wasn't like... obsessed over her. while I liked her, but could not date her, this other girl met me, and we had so much in common, we ended up going out. (I am not frenching anybody, by the way. no more than a peck.) Then, I went to visit my dad, and after being away, I miss them both, but I always liked raquel more. my current relationship has got to end soon, anyways. her parents do not know, and it would take a hell of a long time to earn thier trust, and I do not feel right being sneaky. we only get to see each other maybe once or twice a month, as she lives 27 miles away from me, and has no bike, so i do all the riding more than once, i've made it there, then passed out, because I was going full speed the whole time. so, see. we'll have to break up. anyways. I worked out

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