Locked Hwaarhuh (uncabaled Feral Ninja) vs Ahxnar (Syndi E Ogre Ranger)

I'm not agreeing with @f0xxbut I am disagreeing with you in the log @Trick few reasons.

1. cabal gear you were wearing was half low ac gear. You weren't naked and only in cabal eq. You were still wearing SOME of the best gear in the game.

2. You're a high dex race vs a low dex race. Your ac and general defensiveness vs a dual axe wielder as a two handed weapon SHOULD be superior, shouldn't it?

2.5) given 1 and 2, looks like your ac was actually in a pretty good place. So him missing etc makes sense. Also your weapon of 2h sword vs his dual axe gives you much better defenses. Again, makes sense how you COULD be out damaging him not due to high output, but low damage received from good defense. 

1. he was blinded half the fight where you were not. What's the age old saying about zerks everyone? Seriously, someone say it so I don't have to say it...it starts with.."A blind..."

2. So again, you out damaging a low defense, dual axe wielding unraged, BLIND zerk, esp when you have 2.5+ extra defenses on him..(Two handed, blood guard, and parry with an axe is very poor defense indeed).

3. wouldn't you admit his tactics were POOR? I thought you said this was a log where equal skill equal tactics and the opponent didn't make mistakes.. No dirt, poor defensive approach, focused blood guard a couple rounds and didn't flee, raged when blind like a noob instead of fleeing (sorry player of Rhextar, I admit I am being harsh. That tactic CAN work but it's already high risk and your setup only added to high risk with low payoff. Not the right move here imo)

4. What skills in your class set would have helped here? He charge and body's am locked you as much as possible. You got off dirt, your most needed skill...and we're lagged for much of the rest. zerks fault for not blinding you too before lagging..so again...what other ninja skill would have been useful? Push? Hardly. Dusts..already poisoned and blind = nope. Caltraps? Nerve? Again lag locked. You'd be better off blinding and trying to flee and return...but bc of lag lock you only got flee out when the tick was nearly done...so...what skills here would have so dramatically helped? Bc if they COULD, it should have taken a fun fight to an absolute massacre, but I don't see what else you could use.

Note: I was gonna be cheeky and say something about assassinate, but I want you to know I say all of the above with honest intention to understand your point of view, while respectfully disagreeing with your conclusion based on current evidence I'm seeing... 

Oh damn..I really am agreeing with @f0xx aren't I? :girlsad:

Please make a new thread instead of further derailing this one.

Okay, @P_body. :) 

You're both wrong.

I actually agree with trick here. Ninjas do not know axes. A raged serk should tear a ninja apart dual wielding axes unless the serk is naked and the ninja is fully decked and has already debuffed him some.

I stand corrected. What do I know? I figured the higher defense would make a bigger deal.     

Please forgive me!

🙇‍♂️

P.S. Someone with a zerk log on and fight me so I can test  this out...

@Kassieti.  This thread is so far derailed it's basically a new thread. Maybe we could move this log instead so all the discussion stays in one place?

That's the whole point. A defense melee oriented char should out defend an offensive melee oriented character. A ninja is a rogue and should not be held to the same defense offense bar of a dedicated melee char. This is a raged zerk* dual wielding axes. *** **This is not an area where a ninja should ever be able to just stand there and out damage the zerk almost 2 to 1.

Also @P_body the only thing he is wearing that might be considered best in slot is the isle shroud he is wesring. Everything else is basic 50 reequip gear honestly. Even his weapons are low average damage.

1 hour ago, Anume said:

I actually agree with trick here. Ninjas do not know axes. A raged serk should tear a ninja apart dual wielding axes unless the serk is naked and the ninja is fully decked and has already debuffed him some.

I agree with that, and he does tear the ninja when he rages.

Too bad he is not raged 90% of the log.

1 hour ago, 'tarako said:

This is a raged zerk* dual wielding axes. *

Did you read the log at all?

He is NOT raged 90% of the time. 

He's a low dex, low AC race with 1 defense (since he's wielding axes) vs a high dex, high AC race with 3 defenses.

Yes, the ninja doesn't know axes, but fights are not decided single handedly based on weapon selection. You can't ignore all the other variables and go with "Oh he doesn't know axes, he should get owned",

9 hours ago, Anume said:

If I tell the same thing to someone from the US they will actually take offense.

Not from the US and people in my neck of the woods are known for being pretty hard to offend (NZ and Australia) .

But we can definitely spot a fuckwit when we see one.

There is absolutely nothing that is gonna get you to say maybe ninjas need looked at. Straight up a rogue should absolutely fear being trapped in combat vs giant laggers.

A warning was given.

I think only Wade's post above was actually offensive. The rest is just discussion @Lloth . I unhid some of it.