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Locate Object Enhancement

When someone casts locate helm it lists every crap helm making you scroll through a crazy amount of things trying to find the one you want, how about 'highlighting or coloring' the rares when listing objects that have been located. OR putting a little colored [R] symbol before the item name.

 

UC

Or how about using a more specific word instead?

If im new I wont know any specific words.

 

Maybe even 'locate rare helm'?

 

We are all limited to what we know and if we dont know that something else could be worth obtaining it will never get looked at, right now

everyone searches for maybe 3 specific helms without wondering 'hey, whats that strange looking rare, maybe ill go explore and check it out.'

instead of thinking everything else is just a common.

 

I think the enhancement would help and enlighten people by making them curious.

 

UC

+1

I like it.

"Or how about using a more specific word instead?"

"If im new I wont know any specific words."

 

If your new and don't know the name of the helm, how will you even know where it is?

I had thought about that too Mya, but then I remembered:

 

cast 'locate object' wophat

A bone cane of Wophat is carried by Wophat.

 

where wophat

You didn't find any wophat.

 

Go to a new area:

where wophat

Wophat - The chambers of a dark mage

Like a newbie is going to find Wophat...

 

Again, I see no reason to why not have it color for rares/uniques. Not for newbies, but from a GUI perspective.

While we are at it, make those in players also have a different colour. I get 3 pages of spam when I'm trying to locate keys.

Note taken: Mya does not like making things easier for first time or returning players

Like a newbie is going to find Wophat...

 


I used Wophat as an example.  I'm glad it wasn't lost on you.

/sarcasm

Edited

Note taken: Mya does not like making things easier for first time or returning players

 

I said that I agreed with the idea, not because I think it helps newbie (which I argued it doesn't), but because its a good idea.

Why wouldn't it help newer people Mya?

 

We already encourage newer players to play questing/searching class/race combos. Like healers and clerics. We literally encourage them to explore. And btw I learnt about 60% of the lands on my first couple of characters. 60% doesnt sound like much but its a hell of a lot.

 

Negative Nancy.

If your new and don't know the name of the helm, how will you even know where it is?

 .

How did you find anything? Did you look? Or ask about it? 

 

Negative negative nancy

Let me see if I got this suggestion right....

 

You want to "locate helm".

 

You will get a HUGE list if helms. Most will be normal color, some will have red [R] in front of their names.

 

Then you will start looking about every single helm with [R] in front of their name because it's rare and it must be good?

 

And you think that this will, somehow, help you become a better player?

I agree with UC.

 

How would this idea not be helpful? The equipment in the game is designed to signify rare and uniques are greater in value than commons. As is.......every single game ever made? When you get to a place where you are semi comfortable with the lay out of the game, finding and identifying rares/uniques is another major enjoyment. In fact, it is still something that gives me great pleasure. When I see a new item on someone else, I begin exploring to find it. 

 

Now, what I really want to know, is why do we have people bashing ideas at all? The point of this section of the forum is to generate ideas and create discussion to enhance the suggested idea. I don't think it's constructive to come on here and blast an idea, or a player, for having an idea. At the very least, support your reason(s) for why the idea shouldn't be implemented. 

 

And foxx, unless you have identified or lored an item already, the items in this game are not built consistently over the courses of one builder to the next. I have ran into countless objects that do not locate via obvious code words, and one of the only ways to see if they are available is by locating 'helm', or other various names that give tremendous lists.

No one is saying that this isn't a good idea. It's a good idea.

What we are saying is that this doesn't targets newbies.

 

You wan't a good idea for newbies. Make the freaking locate object spell give the area of the item to the a Journeyman. As long it's not on a PC.

 

Notice the difference between a good idea and a good idea that targets newbies?

Wait a minute, I am not bashing anything.

 

I am questioning the usefulness of the idea. When we have a coder that codes out of good will with limited time on his hands, we, as a playerbase, must make sure his time goes on things that will improve the game.

 

I personally do not see how this will improve the game, in any way, ESPECIALLY for new players.

 

Newbies will get better by wanting to learn and talking to vets.

 

Whatever you code for them, they won't get better if they don't want to learn. And if they want to learn, they will get better no matter what.

 

The only thing that stops them from getting better is vets who don't want to share the information.

 

As for the suggestion itself, here is a list of nice HELMS that you will not get by casting "locate helm":

 

 

 

crown of might

horns of cthulhu

Imbessar's circlet

Glyph of ancient darkness (you can't locate this anyway, but if you could, it would locate with the word "helm")

Blazing Halo

circlet of rylsilesti

 

 

I am all for implementing stuff that helps new players, but I don't see how this will be useful in any way. For anyone.

 

[edit] See Mya's idea? Now that WILL help newbies, even though the thing that will help them most is actually talking to other players.

a Miner's Helm is carried by a Duergar Miner     the Chasm Dragonhelm is carried by the Chasm Dragon [R] a helm of weakening is carried by a Metalsmith     a pulsating white helm is carried by a decrepit old man     an elite helm is carried by Captain Allertathala     a sturdy helm is carried by A Shasarazadean City Guard     an elite helm is carried by An Elite Elven Guard     an elite helm is carried by An Elite Elven Guard     a sturdy helm is carried by A Shasarazadean City Guard     a strong oak helm is carried by Garmex a helm of spell-turning is carried by Valcor, the Hero     a mithril helm is carried by The stone golem     a fishbone helm is carried by The chieftan's guardian     a Consumed Helm is carried by the Tainted golem [R] a crested helm in the shape of a serpent is carried by the Great Sea Dragon of the Deep     a helm of the black-fist is carried by a guard of the black-fist  

If im a low level char all im gonna see is common stuff, as I rank higher im going to start seeing rare and unique equipment

popping into the picture. This will make me start looking for these rare and unique equipments because now I know they exist!

The example I posted above helps experienced playes 'scan the crap' while allowing new players to sort out what they probably

should be looking for along the lines of equipment.

 

Its a 30 second code insert that in my opinion would enhance the game with no drawbacks.

 

UC

If locate object is checked against spell level, the lowbies shouldn't see some of the higher leveled items anyway.  In the above example, a L30 BMG shouldn't see the Helm of Spell-Turning.  If they do, perhaps add a check?

 

All the classes I'm aware of that get locate object don't get it til 15th, so they'll be fine to see the flag should any rare items be about 15th level.

 

Still, I think it's a good idea.