Sneak Posted January 20, 2006 Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 I am stopping playing Grober now. My worst performance with a warrior so far. Life as an outlaw is simply imposible as a melee fighter in fl. The new adjudicator skill compbined with Councils' having an old justice skill that now works on outlaws too is simply too much. Furthermore Ill take a short break from fl (problably not long as usual) as I grow tired of seeing how the best players always seem to end up as 'friends' in game - even though theyre good or evil and got cabals that rp-wise shouldve been in vendetta. I tried taking on tribunals - as they were beeing led by two evils, but not one single person aided of 10 hope and a bunch of knights - furthermore I got thrown out of hope leaving me kind of nowhere. I must admit I found Raargants leading of knights very odd but alright. Ill most likely start later but with a surviveable class cause youre screwed beyond comparison as a dk, war or zerk now if you get wanted/outlawed. Cheers to all who made the past month fun. Toodles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zrothum Posted January 20, 2006 Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 Keeping my own feelings as timid as possible all I can say, Grober, is I feel for you, alot of the stuff going on amongst some of the players at 50 is pretty lame, especially when all those people who should be your allies in fighting the darkness just sit there and have tea&crumpets with them and get rewarded seemingly. Anyhow, wish you could've stuck it out, I got a feeling somebody is going down rather soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Forsaken Posted January 20, 2006 Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 The only thing I have to say is that just because you feel a certain way, it doesn't make it right. You were hardcore in what you believed in, but a lot of it was way off base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iyorvin Posted January 20, 2006 Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 Also, from what I saw, you were not the only goodie who was wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sneak Posted January 20, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 Well I never wouldve thought one could get demoted from hope for killing a tribunal vampire that kinda made me go that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acerbity Posted January 20, 2006 Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 It was the way you killed him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister E Posted January 20, 2006 Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 I havent seen many knights on these days, but when I was playing Jekyr, the wanna be evil monk tribunal, all the goods who were affiliated would laugh at my attempts of lawful upkeep, they would say the same thing "We await our true king to unite the three cities! Your laws mean nothing to us." so maybe Lord M is their king? (hope im not ruining any surprise rp plots.) But this is a microcosm of life, and in life people are ruled by fear. A small percentage hold true and defy it, and many those succeed and many die, the bulk just wait on the fence and follow whoever wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiegel06 Posted January 20, 2006 Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 I am sad to see him go, I was happy with how you played him. One of the few goodies that didnt care about the laws when it came to the evil Tribunal(IMHO) from what I saw. I think he was a good char. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iyorvin Posted January 20, 2006 Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 He got demoted for freeing watchers not for killing the vamp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sneak Posted January 20, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 It was the way you killed him. Uhm? I found him resting EDITED cause it was daytime and he was hurt - is that a bad way to kill a vampire? Dont talk about what you dont know please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acerbity Posted January 20, 2006 Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 Ha ha ha. Every post in reply to me you ask me 'not to talk about what I don't know.' Well, for your information, I spoke to Martineius on several occasions, and apparently that was -not- the case. Thank you. BUT, it is however possible that we may be talking about different situations, which I believe is unlikely, since I've been told that you've only killed him once. Though, that aside, Iyorvin told us why you were demoted. Freeing treehuggers, while in hope, and having the Knights battle them for the cities back is.. well, as found by Raargant, a demotable offense. Oh well, better luck next time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sneak Posted January 20, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 I wonder what his version is since i got the log and furthermore 2-3 people from hope who can confirm how it went. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatMike Posted January 20, 2006 Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 Just stop where we are. Grober was a good character if that's what you were going for with him. You got caught up in things you shouldn't have IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thelsyome Posted January 20, 2006 Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 We don't usually like to cut farewell threads prematurely, so don't make us do it this time. Keep it clean guys and gals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balinor Posted January 20, 2006 Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 Might also want to edit that little bit about EDITED, and the whatnot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raargant Posted January 20, 2006 Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 You got demoted for killing a vampire? That's curious. I don't remember demoting anyone for killing a vampire.... I DO remember, though, demoting someone for freeing three Watchers that were about to be executed. As a Knight hopeful. Kinda remember what happened to Val Miran, yes? I don't remember expelling anyone for killing vampires either... Oh. That's right. I DO remember expelling someone, however, for, say....a note like this. "I will consider this as high treason, and WILL kill [Nasetuit] on sight. This goes to Maneil as well as I consider you to for beeing lost and out of reach. - Grober." I'm sorry. You send a note to all Hope and Knight, TELLING them that you are going to KILL the LEADER of Knight, and another Knight, ON SIGHT. For telling you that breaking free Watchers is bad. Good vs good debate is fine. Good vs good verbal fighting is fine. Heck, even, at times, good vs good PK based on specific cabal situations, is plausible, although definitely not recommended. But when you tell everyone, as a goodie, you are going to kill, on sight, the LEADER of the clan and cabal you are in/want in...what in the world do you expect besides getting kicked out of the clan. Hugs and kisses, and adoring fans saying, "Awwww, that's so brave that he's willing to kill the Knight Leader!" Minus breaking free Watchers, and minus threatening to murder other goodies/Knights, and you would've had a good char that probably would've went Knight. Maybe could've had some fun RP with some intra-Castle factions being built, one more warlike, the other less; that's what I was hoping for, something like a real-RP reenactment of the splits in goody philosophy that led to the formation of the Praetorian and Sigil factions to begin with.. You chose instead to go berserk on the other goodies. You paid for it. You did stupid things, you made stupid threats, you got stupid results. From the perspective of the strange Knight IMM who does strange things, those are the strange reasons he had; Grober threatening to murder his Knights, and the Knight L. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sneak Posted January 20, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 Yeah well. Youre assuming a lot of things. First off I havent seen any watcher action against Val Miran. Second all knights and people in hope ran around telling that they had orders from you not to attack tribunals - thats really not very encouraging to actually start something as I was the only one who fought when Dyendas stopped. I dont see them as stupid but I did follow my chars deity and went on the crusade alone - it might have been suicidal but hey. Frankly I found very little encouragement in me getting demoted the first time - there was no discussion at all about the fact that the watchers were the only one fighting the tribunals and by freeing them knights/hope might actually have had a chance against Tribunal - nono just a demotion - based on the note from the vampire. That lead me to send that note from which you quoted - and I believe that what Grober did ig at that time was at its place - of course he had to be expelled at that time, but the damage was done a lot earlier. edit: above had nothing to do with me stopped playing Grober and I actually thought it couldve been fun continuing that as I had a faint hope of getting avatared one day. double edit: might as well give a few shoutouts to cheer this post up Dyendas - really strong, thanks for giving me a few tips. Gl with the char - a pity you did not choose my way Martini - awesome rp - u always seem to give your chars a nice edge. Comaton - although you do not roam the lands anymore I thought you really did an amazing job. Top notch behavior in our meetings. A pleassure. And that about it I spend most of my online time running - never did so much running as with this char. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raargant Posted January 20, 2006 Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 Val Miran was DESTROYED by the Watchers. Tribunal rebuilt it. How's that for action? o.O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sneak Posted January 20, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 Yeah thats cool - I should have guessed that happened while I was gone. Obvious turn of events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirax Posted January 21, 2006 Report Share Posted January 21, 2006 Saw some of the efforts you did against tribunal and props for showing your nuts, its been very refreshing lately with some very ballsy players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Forsaken Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 Sigh, you really should have kept him. After all that mess you went through it could have opened many unique rp doors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zrothum Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 Wish you would have kept him. The house is about the get knocked the BEEP down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeleeCrazy Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 I tried to Rp with grober on a few occasions, always got interupted by someone. I liked yer take on things and think you should have stayed around. would have been good to see what came of the trouble you stirred up. I saw a cool plot growing there.....should have played him out man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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