dragonforger17 Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 alright im wondering if its even possible to get past a rangers animals and attack the ranger. and i was wondering does a monk even stand a good chance against a ranger i would assume so if hes mastered the anatomy and such. just wanting to see what everyones got to say about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zrothum Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 If you are not blind/dirted you can..... prompt > hit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonforger17 Posted October 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 so just set up a trigger some how to continuely hit him and if i do kill him do i still have to deal with his pets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elfdude Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 nope, don't have to deal with his pets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMac Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 You've got to remember that rescue lags him. When he gets rescued, flee and run back and thrash/trip him to death with crane stance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corpsestomp Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 When he rescues himself, just use k to retarget him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMac Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 You could do that, but fleeing disorients them a little bit more. They spend a sec trying to get their bearings or finding out where you are and BLAM! thrash! trip! oh snap! oh noes! mah face! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archgold Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 all i can say is most monks have no chance against a solidly played ranger and if you go offensive it's rlly hard to kill a ranger considering you have two defenses at most vs. 2-3 pets and one guy same level or lower/higher who has most likely a staff + pugil. Which means the chances of you hitting him are very low. But when you go defensive you have a higher chance just keep a few fuschia potions out and when you see them run and camo use sense motion and quaff away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMac Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 I disagree. In my experience, a monk with Level 3 chii bolt and crane stance can dominate just about everything in the game (except some of the even higher output melee classes like berserkers). One thing you've got to take into account is that your defenses rely largely on hitroll. What's crane stance give you? A whole lot of hitroll. You're going to be able to hit a ranger consistently, and why worry about his pets? In crane stance, a decent monk can take out the pets really quickly. If you go defensive, you're going to use aura and chii, and have really great armor class. Great, right? Wrong. Any smart ranger will make the weather bad and thunder storm the bejesus out of someone with good AC (monks, battlemages, all halflings, etc). You're giving yourself a vuln by playing the pansy card and going defensive. Crane stance is the way to go about 75% of the time. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archgold Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 fine you can go that way against suunmar, izlo, orlick, kronit, loriss and we'll see how you do. oh PS zerks go horse and you'll hardly ever lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pali Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 Monks can dominate anything assuming they are properly prepped for the fight. The trick is being prepped for it. It's far easier for a warrior or cleric to change their tactics than it is for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archgold Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 well that's the general idea....but has anyone pulled it off lately? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pali Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 No, they haven't. I find that blademasters are very similar in style, being able to prep for anything, but they can alternate tactics more easily and one using one stance doesn't mean that you either can't kill or can't defend. They're more general, and I feel that the people who are willing to put a lot of training into a char are going blademaster for this reason instead of going monk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archgold Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 yup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celerity Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 blms can easily hit vulns also just a simple stone skin ruins any monk's day.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L-A Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 oh PS zerks go horse and you'll hardly ever lose. The stance you choose will be of little consequences after 3 - 5 rounds vs a well played zerk.... L-A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celerity Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 unfortunately, with haymaker, berserker is lagged and it is just a flee out thing..kinda like when sanc or something drops on a mage after being hit by one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archgold Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 well all I know is that i beat bazin in both drunken and horse in a few challenges before he got weapon forms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pali Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 Not if you time the haymaker right. I've never been lagged more than a round by air thrash, where it lags the monk two. Drop the haymaker right there, or at a similar time, you get at least a round against an unstanced, unsanced monk. If they made the mistake of spamming a trip in, oh, are they screwed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celerity Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 Talking about defensive monks..even if they did spam, balance will kick in and save them. It also hard to laglock an offensive monk due to chakera...but don't go offensive anyways against full warrior types, unless you have the sizable eq adv/cabal adv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pali Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 Still. Right after a dirt, or a kick perhaps. Just like a dispel magic, you have to time haymakers for maximum effect. Dispelling someone as an invoker's useless if they can flee right away, but if you do it where they just lagged themselves a round or two, it can give you the fight right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonforger17 Posted October 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 everyone here is so helpful thank you i will try some changes with my monk now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Questioner Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 Monks are the only class that can pk all the other classes. It is also one of the most eq dependent classes and for those who are equipment knowledgeable. You need good hit-roll to even be worth fighting against. And with all the eq hogging pinns out there, monks are short of supply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pali Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 Monks are the only class that can pk all the other classes. Ninjas, anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L-A Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 At the very least you should be timing the haymaker just ahead of the damage for the round - even if you've got your daily dose of caffine/speed/gatorade you probably can't get out before you take a round of pain - and a round unstanced and unsanc'd will hurt you. Even if it doesn't, the monk will have to run due to lack of mana=no stance long before the zerk will stop haymakering you. L-A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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