Archbishop Monk Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 Does a race having magic resistance cover all magics, including mental? Or is it just mals and afflictive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corpsestomp Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 Everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acerbity Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 Really doubtful. I believe magic resistance means.. litterally, damage spells. Mals and Mentals had no problem being landed on many of my halflings even with high saves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deykari Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 Really doubtful. I believe magic resistance means.. litterally' date=' damage spells. Mals and Mentals had no problem being landed on many of my halflings even with high saves.[/quote'] Likewise, I have found no real difference in spell landing for mals and mentals against halflings/dwarves than I have with say, a human (with respect to them having around roughly the same amount of saves). When it says magic resistance, I think it means like Acerbity says, resistance to anything that does magical damage (magical weapons, magic-damage afflictive spells (not non-magical damage spells like sharpmetal though) etc.). I could most certaintly be wrong though. Dey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexi Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 I always found it harder to land mental and maledictive spells on duergars, dwarves and halflings, and they would usually resist afflictive spells easier too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corpsestomp Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 Not magical weapons, Dey? Test that out on mobs, then tell me I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deykari Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 Sorry, I worded that wrong. That was meant to be read that magical weapons ARE affected by it, but non non-magic damage spells such as sharpmetal, the bit about sharpmetal was just an example of a magic spell that does non-magic damage. Should have made that clearer. Dey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corpsestomp Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 I'm 99% sure that magic resist affects all types of magic. Mals, afflictive spells, and mental. Want to test it? Go get the most common way to poison yourself with a magic resist race, you'll see a major difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deykari Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 Mmm. Forgot about that. I will honestly say, I don't really have a clue. With my cleric, I noticed a pretty avarage landing rate of my mals and mentals among most I thought, given respect to their saves EQ. Apart from Ogres, Giants for mental, and Helmsley. He made ill. And I don't mean IG, I mean I literally vomited all over my own face and keyboard, multiple times. Dey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudder Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 Halflings have resistance to magic. Period. Mental Afflictive Maledictive And magic weapons Any Shaman who has fought dwarf/duergar/halfling can tell you that. Any Cleric who has tried to land minister on the above can tell you that. A very nice advantage. Though they pay for that with water vuln and halflings are small and have crappy str. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celerity Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 Yeah, magic resistance counts for all types of magic and faith. With the strongest of the races having a measly 21 strength(dwarf) and crap dex (18), you won't have to worry about them ever having much offensive power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raargant Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 Mudder is correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mmm Coffee Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 I've always been curious why the magic resistant races receive mental resistance? What is the RP behind it? I can understand the resistance to affs and mals, but it's a huge stretch of the imagination to know why they're resistant to mental spells too. Often, it seems like a bit much because of how difficult it is for all C/C's (except invokers) to exploit the vuln. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyzarius Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 I've always been curious why the magic resistant races receive mental resistance? What is the RP behind it? I can understand the resistance to affs and mals' date=' but it's a huge stretch of the imagination to know why they're resistant to mental spells too. Often, it seems like a bit much because of how difficult it is for all C/C's (except invokers) to exploit the vuln.[/quote'] every class has their banes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magick Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 I've always been curious why the magic resistant races receive mental resistance? What is the RP behind it? I can understand the resistance to affs and mals' date=' but it's a huge stretch of the imagination to know why they're resistant to mental spells too. Often, it seems like a bit much because of how difficult it is for all C/C's (except invokers) to exploit the vuln.[/quote']every class has their banes. Dwarves and their deep cousins the Duergar are hearty races. Most are quite content at living underground or around the stones themselves. Usually master stonemasons and workers, they've built themselves as a stocky race. Putting themselves into the role of brawn and labor over all forms of Arcane magicks, they've built up a resistance against it. After all, if one doesn't channel and use magicks regularly, it won't flow through the vessel properly. Much like a rusted out pipe. It's also why Dwarves, both deep and 'surface,' make lousy mages. ... I've got nothing for the Halflings other than the fact that they also like to be more of a slightly subterranian race, thus gain the benifit of not being exposed to the magicks flying about the surface. Drow, for arguments sake, being notorious magick users, are exempt from the subterranian clause. And for further arguments sake, Arcane practices are vastly different than Divine. Will that work for you guys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mya Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 Mental resistance comes from their magical resistance which includes all form of magic, including spells that affect the mind, or magical attacks which attack the mind. Things like Sleep are still spells, an as such will be resisted. There is a average 27 Water spear around. Water vulnerability (through melee) although is harder to exploit, has a enormous damage potential for more experienced players. There is also a Water bow. They also have a difficulty getting forms of poison. Hence their worst enemies being thieves. But if you want my opinion, there is a lack of medium to good Water weapons for lower ranks. While existing some very good water weapons for experienced Pinacles. With the strongest of the races having a measly 21 strength(dwarf) and crap dex (18), you won't have to worry about them ever having much offensive power. Actualy I find that with the leeway you get from the extra saves I can get much more Hit/Dam than in normal characters. Unless you are a pure hit dam character, in which case you are a lit bit worse, and equal to a human. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f0xx Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 With the strongest of the races having a measly 21 strength(dwarf) and crap dex (18)' date=' you won't have to worry about them ever having much offensive power. [/quote'] I would expect something like this coming from Mya, but you? Come on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mya Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 Check the date of the post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f0xx Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 Ah understandable, she was still a newbie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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