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Terrorism, what you don't know what is happening in the world.


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Man, I can't stand people quoting talking heads. I have buddies over there that tell me whats really going on. We should not be over there, we are an occupying force that is doing nothing but harm. There was never any WMDs, Iraq was never associated with 9/11 bla bla bla, its all bull****

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I never said that. But we don't go blowing up people with bombs strapped to our bodies now do we?

First, who exactly is 'we' That's a fairly ignorant way to look at it.

The problem isn't muslims, it's fanatics. I know an awful lot of muslims, and all the ones I know are extrodinarily nice, pleasent people. These are people who grew up in Pakistan, Suadi Arabia, Egypt, etc and came to the US in the past four or five years. Not a damn one has ever given me **** about the US or about christianity over this whole ordeal simply because I'm a white american who celebrates christmas. They give me **** when I make *** ignorant comments like 'Muslims kill people with bombs, Muslims are bad. Christians must be better.'

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The US OWNS the United Nations and NATO because we finance so much of the organization. That is why we are being allowed to do what we do. To let everyone know why we are over there, look at our streets. Not the streets of Iraq, but our streets. You see Americans killing Americans. You see blacks killing blacks and whites and the other way around. Now, look at Iraq, look at Saudia Arabia, look at pakistan. F*** weapons of mass destruction, they can barely get running water, but they hand out guns like candy to the kids with ammo at full supply. We are no better than they are at times, but at least you can walk out into the street and not have to cry when you reach the other side because you are alive. You have drive by's that kill maybe one or two when THEY have walk by's that kill 100's. And I have several of my co-workers who have seen this sort of thing, and wish so baddly that they could go back to the war to prevent it. As much as you hear about our soldiers, the unsung faller are the Iraqi people, who have it far worse than us. These "terrorists" are not terrorists in their own country, they are tyrants who kill anyone who asks for more food, throw babies in the river from couples who weren't married. That, at least what I think, is why we are in this war ladies and gentlemen. Even if it's not, it is a damn good reason to stay, to give children a chance to live.

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Back in the days of WWII, French resistance fighters in Nazi occupied France carried out many acts such as car bombing German hang-outs and conducting drive by shootings of German officers in crowded resturaunts. There were often civilian casualties. I'm sure the Germans classed these acts as terrorism. But many of us would say that they were legitimate acts as they were fighting to restore their country from what was widely perceived as an illegal and violent occupation by an invading force.

Fast forward to today.

Iraqi militants bomb and fire on US targets in US occupied Iraq. There are civilian casualties. They are also attempting to liberate their country from what they (and the UN, incidentally) view as an illegal occupation.

Are they terrorists because they're named Abdul and they wear turbans? And are the French people of WWII freedom fighters because they're white Christians?

That just seems to me to be the spin most media puts on things nowdays.

no people from the resistance deliberately tried to murder civilian kids and women back in ww2 - please do not compare the situation back then and now as they are completely different [also I do believe that if people had the chance back then they WOULDVE killed german civilians as they could be seen as supporting the regime as a whole - but it did not happen, so you cannot draw that line]

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Disagreeing with Questioner doesn't make people snobby college liberals any more than agreeing with him makes people red-neck, hillbilly dirt-farmers with shotguns under their pillow.

I should bail out of this thread before some guy in a cowboy hat with a six-shooter tries to lynch me for not wanting to kill people.

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