Iyorvin Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 They have 10 ranks before they are even in pk. Most people won't pk before 20 either. They have quests to teach them the important things in the cities. As is stands, with this much Tribunal activity, I believe it will push away the pk part of the mud. Of coure, as soon as the vamp leaves the ninjas will return and noone will wanna play Tribunals. Once again, ninjas with a one hit kill are used to balance out the mud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sneak Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 I got outlawed for my first crime that was attacking the jail dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomak Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 I think that it's better the code to outlaw you after you are captured many times.How somebody will feel if he is outlawed before 50th?Just think about it...he will never be able to pinnacle his char.Okay..you will tell me to play by the rules of the cities,but sometimes you break the law because of accidents.I am not telling you to lower Tribunal or to remove the laws just make it harder for the tribunals to mark you as an outlaw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chayesh Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 I got outlawed for my first crime that was attacking the jail dude. Yeah. Gosh, no justification there. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sneak Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 He started it! The Val Miran jail guard is a brawler I tell ya. It was a comment to people saying nobody got outlawed after their first crime - that was just an example. Got a little surprised as well as I did not know it had changed like that And seeing as outlaw not just is a bitch in comparison to earlier it aint too fun. Also seeing as how ooc connections draw thick lines in the sand in tribunal relations I dont find that feature a very cool thing in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister E Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 Being an outlaw doesnt prevent you from gaining your pinnacle. I think being so easily outlawed makes sense. For all the reasons Deykari stated I will not repeat them. What we need are MORE outlaws, that way they can rank together. Its almost like having your own special cabal. So dont break rp by being a little pansy and afraid of the tribunals. If you hate them and laws, and are chaotic, then go nuts! Turn autosheath off, spit in their faces, hell, id like to see an outlaw leader emerge (how cool would it be in chrinchton lost his mind and did it by force) and make a super clan of bandits and rebels. If that happened, then all the low rank players commiting petty crimes will be ignored, because the pack of outlaws will be a main priority. Hell, the watchers would be in your side! (they should be outlaws by default! muhahaha) anyway, nuff said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNewGuy Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 Now I think it shouldnt be possible at all to outlaw a person who committed his first crime, since outlaw is for people who has shown that they dont care about laws. Once shows nothing. Second crime should rarely outlaw you either. But then the third, fourth, fifth time, then it is another thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomak Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 Wow you are damn good,you know how to convince somebody Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thelsyome Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 Now I think it shouldnt be possible at all to outlaw a person who committed his first crime' date=' since outlaw is for people who has shown that they dont care about laws. Once shows nothing. Second crime should rarely outlaw you either. But then the third, fourth, fifth time, then it is another thing.[/quote'] I disagree. I think it depends on the crime (And I don't mean crimes like sheathing). You can commit one really heinous crime that proves, without a doubt, that you wish to live outside the laws. If someone wishes to live outside the laws, why should they be protected by it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pali Posted January 28, 2006 Report Share Posted January 28, 2006 Think of it this way... in real life, you kill someone, you get cops coming after you, but they're not supposed to kill you without serious cause. You kill a crapload of people, they'll put you on the most wanted list, and a bullet to the head's as good to them as cuffs on the wrists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajwetton Posted January 28, 2006 Report Share Posted January 28, 2006 Now I think it shouldnt be possible at all to outlaw a person who committed his first crime' date=' since outlaw is for people who has shown that they dont care about laws. Once shows nothing. Second crime should rarely outlaw you either. But then the third, fourth, fifth time, then it is another thing.[/quote'] No I think breaking it once does show, because usually its 1 of 2 things. Paladin X for instance runs into town and Charges Darknight Y. Wanted Paladin. A real disreguard for the law. should be outlawed soon I think. option 2 look Warrior A Warrior A's weapon is DRAWN! Tribunal B says "sheath' Look Warrior A again. Warrior A's weapon is DRAWN! Tribunal B says "sheath" Look Warrior A a third time. Wanted Warrior A. refusing to put a weapon away no matter how trivial some think it is is AGAINST the law. and to not do it is a Disreguard for the law. hence I don't have a problem being outlawed like that because something as leaving a weapon out when told to sheath it is a Disreguard for the law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pali Posted January 28, 2006 Report Share Posted January 28, 2006 Yes, but there are serious and minor breaks to the law, even in real life (felony vs misdemeanor). Refusing to put a weapon away is very, very much less in scale than killing someone in broad daylight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajwetton Posted January 28, 2006 Report Share Posted January 28, 2006 But although we add a certain element of realism we are not in reality so in this fantasy world there doesn't nessicarly have to be two levels of crime. and if its up to the tribunal he or she might not have that view about crime as an rp point of view and I think this allows us to have various points of view as tribunals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudder Posted January 28, 2006 Report Share Posted January 28, 2006 Being an outlaw doesnt prevent you from gaining your pinnacle. I think being so easily outlawed makes sense. For all the reasons Deykari stated I will not repeat them. What we need are MORE outlaws, that way they can rank together. Its almost like having your own special cabal. So dont break rp by being a little pansy and afraid of the tribunals. If you hate them and laws, and are chaotic, then go nuts! Turn autosheath off, spit in their faces, hell, id like to see an outlaw leader emerge (how cool would it be in chrinchton lost his mind and did it by force) and make a super clan of bandits and rebels. If that happened, then all the low rank players commiting petty crimes will be ignored, because the pack of outlaws will be a main priority. Hell, the watchers would be in your side! (they should be outlaws by default! muhahaha) anyway, nuff said Thats basicly Cartel/Syndicate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister E Posted January 28, 2006 Report Share Posted January 28, 2006 They arent always outlawed though. I think more watcher get the outlaw flag that the syndicate, but I could be wrong. What I was suggesting was more simple, that if enough people have the stones to stand up to the law (if thats their rp) then they could actually pose problems to the tribunal while at the same time having others like them to group with and gain ranks. (It was just a proposition to show how being outlawed pre-50 wasnt a reason to delete.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raargant Posted January 28, 2006 Report Share Posted January 28, 2006 Think of it this way... in real life' date=' you kill someone, you get cops coming after you, but they're not supposed to kill you without serious cause. You kill a crapload of people, they'll put you on the most wanted list, and a bullet to the head's as good to them as cuffs on the wrists.[/quote'] Think of it this way. You just pissed on King Arthur's leg, then ran away. You can bet that'll piss off his knights even more than murdering a random peasant would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pali Posted January 29, 2006 Report Share Posted January 29, 2006 Think of it this way. You just pissed on King Arthur's leg, then ran away. You can bet that'll piss off his knights even more than murdering a random peasant would. I surrender to your overwhelming logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raargant Posted January 29, 2006 Report Share Posted January 29, 2006 Score! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNewGuy Posted January 29, 2006 Report Share Posted January 29, 2006 My view of outlaw is that it is for notorious criminals who doesnt seem to change their behavior. If you keep dong crime after being punished, it shows you have no intention to change. But you can never know that if you outlaw on first offence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raargant Posted January 29, 2006 Report Share Posted January 29, 2006 From what I've seen, no one is 'outlawed on their first offense', crime-wise. What they are generally outlawed for is disrespect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balinor Posted January 29, 2006 Report Share Posted January 29, 2006 You tell Martineius 'You f***ing bastard, you couldn't catch a huge wanted giant if it was on the broad side of your grandmother's @$$. I hope you rot in hell. Try and capture me, I dare you. You'll have a hard time running with all the objects getting sucked into your gravitational pull, you fat bastard.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raargant Posted January 29, 2006 Report Share Posted January 29, 2006 No, that gets you to the room called 30007. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magick Posted January 29, 2006 Report Share Posted January 29, 2006 AKA "In Deep ****" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister E Posted January 29, 2006 Report Share Posted January 29, 2006 From what I gather is Outlaws are people who are criminals that do not change their ways. Even people who become wanted numerous times still might change their ways, but at a certain point it becomes clear they wont. There is no line in the sand thus it is up to the tribunal to make the call. Personally I would outlaw someone for repeatedly not sheathing before spitting on a tribunal. Whereas defecating in town is a crime, hating someone is not. Perhaps if they spit on you they simple dont like your race. They might even be lawful citizens. If I were a tribunal in that case I might not even mark them wanted, I would rather find them outside of town and kill them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raargant Posted January 29, 2006 Report Share Posted January 29, 2006 That was what outlaw used to be. That was also before outlaw status/wanted status could be revoked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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