BobcatFan Posted December 19, 2006 Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 Fine, Im going to ask this and I know its a newbie question but how do you use the freakin condors that the song provides. I have asked several pinn bards and not many know. Help me out... is it a mount (blank) or what because I have tried alot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grishnak Posted December 19, 2006 Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 To my knowledge you sing the song and are given the effect. While affected by the song if you try to go over water or into air rooms the condor will allow you to do so without boat/flight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deykari Posted December 19, 2006 Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 For a limited amount of time/one room I believe. I remember being grouped with Seliana and trying to get across an air room, and she had to cast Flight of the Condor everytime we entered a new room. Dey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudder Posted December 19, 2006 Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 Thats annoying.. Give it a boost! I want the pheonix song back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malanith Posted December 19, 2006 Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 I, personally, second this idea. The phoenix song was great for RP, and even helps a bard survive too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myrek Posted December 19, 2006 Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 bards are over powered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
songofsixpence Posted December 19, 2006 Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 Can anyone imagine Helmsley if he'd had the phoenix as well? 'Nuff said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HBwillie Posted December 19, 2006 Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 Dey is right. Flight of the Condor allows you to fly over ONE room in the air or over water before it falls. Kinda pointless, if you ask me. I do believe it needs a boost, whether in concurrence with toning another skill or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizz Posted December 19, 2006 Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 Thirded on both songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobcatFan Posted December 19, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 I think it should allow you fly for its duration, but thats just me. That is kinda lame having to resing it over and over. Can you immagine ranking in the caverns without a boat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corpsestomp Posted December 20, 2006 Report Share Posted December 20, 2006 Can you imagine a second class with a fly spell? I really don't want to give that to bards. You have scrolls (and staves?), buy some scrolls or potions if you need to fly. I always thought that song was for emergency-type situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudder Posted December 20, 2006 Report Share Posted December 20, 2006 If I recall, it only lasts for 6 hours. A 6 hour flight? That is not good at all. No one will use that as their main source of flying. It will be for emergencies. Maybe make it so that ONLY bards can use the "flight of the condor" until its duration runs out, and normal adventurers must hear the song again. That way its more for the bard himself in an emergency. Bards ARE overpowered. Yes. Except they are way less overpowered than they were before. But no one believes me. And I think Halflings are way stronger bards than Dwarves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Greased Weasel Posted December 20, 2006 Report Share Posted December 20, 2006 Flight of the condor should make a swarm of evil flesh eating condors that peck out peoples eyes!!! Chayesh made me do it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiere Posted December 21, 2006 Report Share Posted December 21, 2006 I had always thought that it wasn't even really fly. I.E., the bard could still be tripped. Thus, extending the duration wouldn't matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pali Posted December 21, 2006 Report Share Posted December 21, 2006 If the point of the spell is to make it so you can fly over water, why not just make it last longer and only give water-walking like storms have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a-guitarist Posted December 21, 2006 Report Share Posted December 21, 2006 Yeah, you could say that the condor isn't always carrying to Bard, but instead only swooping down and picking him up when he wants to get to the next room. a-g Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyzarius Posted December 21, 2006 Report Share Posted December 21, 2006 Can you imagine a second class with a fly spell? I really don't want to give that to bards. You have scrolls (and staves?)' date=' buy some scrolls or potions if you need to fly. I always thought that song was for emergency-type situations.[/quote'] a decent bard already has a rather lengthy fly with the right item.. and on the flip side... with the right item any wand wielding class can easily nullify the flight effect on anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merriwren Posted December 21, 2006 Report Share Posted December 21, 2006 If the point of the spell is to make it so you can fly over water' date=' why not just make it last longer and only give water-walking like storms have?[/quote'] It's not just to get over water. The point (as far as I saw) was to help the bard get somewhere by using a condor to carry them. Sometimes over water, other times into places where flight is mandatory. I don't think this spell needs to cast flight for a few hours (though that'd be nice), and the condor isn't really a mount per se. I just think it'd be good if the condor stuck around longer than one room. Perhaps give it two limits, the condor remains and helps for the duration of the spell or 20 rooms, which ever comes first?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corpsestomp Posted December 21, 2006 Report Share Posted December 21, 2006 It's not just to get over water. The point (as far as I saw) was to help the bard get somewhere by using a condor to carry them. Sometimes over water' date=' other times into places where flight is mandatory. I don't think this spell needs to cast flight for a few hours (though that'd be nice), and the condor isn't really a mount per se. I just think it'd be good if the condor stuck around longer than one room. [b']Perhaps give it two limits, the condor remains and helps for the duration of the spell or 20 rooms, which ever comes first?? I like this idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudder Posted December 22, 2006 Report Share Posted December 22, 2006 I'd prefer it remain for the duration. Maybe increase the duration then if this limit was added? I want birth of the pheonix back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Posted December 22, 2006 Report Share Posted December 22, 2006 I want birth of the pheonix back! Yes, I missed playing tamagotchi! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pali Posted December 22, 2006 Report Share Posted December 22, 2006 As I recall from my 1.0 healer, divine retribution fades both per tick and per room moved. I agree that changing fotc to something like this wouldn't be overpowered at all, and would give it some actual use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizz Posted December 22, 2006 Report Share Posted December 22, 2006 OMG My kid has one of those. I admit I'm guilty of sneaking playing with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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