Mudder Posted January 24, 2007 Report Share Posted January 24, 2007 Which makes a better thief? Str is the same. Dex is similar. (1 point doesn't make much difference) Con is similar. (1 point doesn't make much difference) Humans have MUCH better Int/Wis. That makes them better at defusing traps. Sliths can shed their skin in combat, which is pretty damn nice for a thief. Does having a high Int/Wis help with setting traps, or only defusing? I think Humans/Gnomes should get a bonus when making traps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WagesofSin Posted January 24, 2007 Report Share Posted January 24, 2007 I think the answer will be an unanimous "SLITH!!!". Auto-trip is nice and if you go evil, you get dirt kick protection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudder Posted January 24, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2007 Not including the different "races" of slith. Only using the general shed skin. Auto-trip means nothing at 50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiegel06 Posted January 24, 2007 Report Share Posted January 24, 2007 well with humans you also get a good pk range and bonus from magical items, while the slith has a larger pk range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WagesofSin Posted January 24, 2007 Report Share Posted January 24, 2007 Auto-trip means nothing at 50. I would disagree. Yes, most will be flying, but if they walk into an anti-magic trap and lose flight the chance of getting a trip in can get you the kill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WagesofSin Posted January 24, 2007 Report Share Posted January 24, 2007 Also, As any slith you also get an extra tail "attack" in most(if not all) combat rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
English lad Posted January 24, 2007 Report Share Posted January 24, 2007 Dont underestimate the power of shed, circlestab, especially if someone lags themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirax Posted January 24, 2007 Report Share Posted January 24, 2007 The extra dex will make a difference and not just in your ac the extra con also comes in handy and with the added shed skin it can be a life saver literally . Plus the extra attack from the tail can do some decent damage. That said with no age penalties humans make a decent choice for thief and the added int and wis will aid in mastering the many skills that are need to make a fearsome thief. To your question on setting traps they do take up mana so more int means more mana pool and on a previous slith thief of mine i did have times with no mana meaning no traps so you would have to keep an eye on it, or you could miss a great oppurtunity. If your new to playing a thief go human, youll be at 50 in no time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anithraril Posted January 24, 2007 Report Share Posted January 24, 2007 I'll say it, just to save time. Human. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evangelion Posted January 24, 2007 Report Share Posted January 24, 2007 Faeries make better thieves for two reasons. A) Less HP and Easier to bashlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNewGuy Posted January 24, 2007 Report Share Posted January 24, 2007 Make a human. Everyone else makes sliths. I am sick of it. Think the slith might be the stronger one though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister E Posted January 24, 2007 Report Share Posted January 24, 2007 Slith is a muh better thief, autotrip is HUGE, shed is HUGE, even the extra align perk is a major deal. Noone mentioned the auto spear mastery, great for even nicer backstabs. Sure a human thief would be good, just like a human anything is good. But is it the best? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celerity Posted January 24, 2007 Report Share Posted January 24, 2007 Faeries make better thieves for two reasons. A) Less HP and Easier to bashlock You almost forgot their great blackjacking skill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Implementor Anume Posted January 24, 2007 Implementor Report Share Posted January 24, 2007 Not including the different "races" of slith. Only using the general shed skin. Auto-trip means nothing at 50. Soooooo wrong. Even disregarding catching someone with their pants down which can happen pretty often as a thief, there are options that make that skill extremely useful. (Still want to see a slith thief warder. Roll one already.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chromatic Posted January 24, 2007 Report Share Posted January 24, 2007 (Still want to see a slith thief warder. Roll one already.) There were two on the way up, but I think all the sliths gave up. I'll make you one after my two current chars condie, though:D Oh, and I agree fullheartedly with Evangelion on the faeries. They are OVERPOWERED, everybody roll one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiere Posted January 24, 2007 Report Share Posted January 24, 2007 Never even thought this was an issue. Slith, hands down. Failing that, I'd say the question would be more between duergar and human. Probably human. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim_Reefer Posted January 24, 2007 Report Share Posted January 24, 2007 Shut up, Fiere, everything you play sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiere Posted January 24, 2007 Report Share Posted January 24, 2007 You shut up, everything your mom plays sucks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldbond Posted January 24, 2007 Report Share Posted January 24, 2007 Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudder Posted January 24, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2007 I'd pick Duergar over human any day. Magic resistance is nice. Why would ANYONE roll a Watcher right now? They have too many as it is, compared to their enemies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chromatic Posted January 24, 2007 Report Share Posted January 24, 2007 I'd pick Duergar over human any day. Magic resistance is nice. Why would ANYONE roll a Watcher right now? They have too many as it is, compared to their enemies. Haha, when the hell do you sign on? Watcher has more active enemies than Knight right now. Watcher always is and always will be the underdogs. Just because you don't see a Trib doesn't mean they don't have enemies. K, thanks, sunshine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zrothum Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 Balinor finally says something genuinely funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pali Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 You shut up' date=' everything your mom plays sucks![/quote'] Your mom's a malediction! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNewGuy Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 When do YOU log in, chrom? Tribunal, as allways, are underdogs. Watcher to me seem to be quite at par, if not slightly on top with their current enemies. Though, we'll see what happens now when Fenle isn't about 24-7. Or allways when I am on at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNewGuy Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 Your mom's a malediction! Your mom's a dad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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