Evangelion Posted February 10, 2007 Report Share Posted February 10, 2007 /---------------\/----------------------------------------------\ | Gimledoc || the Doomblade | \---------------/\----------------------------------------------/ | Str: 21(21) || Level: 50 Sex: M Age : 124(81h) | | Int: 18(18) || Class: blademaster Ethos: chaotic | | Wis: 18(18) || Race : dwarf Align: good | | Dex: 18(18)^4 || Hp : 1015/1191 Exp : 22591/621209 | | Con: 24(24) || Mana : 134/499 | \ Lck: [||||--] \/ Move : 414/414 +Hit: 40 +Dam: 30 / /---------------/\------------------/\--------------------------\ | ARMOR || SAVES || Deity : Irumeru | | Slash : -197 || Spell : -8 || Faith : Purity | | Pierce: -190 || Afflictive : -39 || Weight: 159/425 | | Blunt : -199 || Maledictive: -27 || Items : 32/35 | | Magic : -180 || Mental : -9 || Prac : 60 Train: 0 | | Weapon: low || Pos: middle || Gold : 5010 | \---------------\/------------------\/--------------------------/ / Condition: You are in the prime of your health. \ | Anatomy :Mob Human Elf Dwarf DemiHum Giant Beast Flying Uniqu | | 100 88 98 108 95 110 100 127 100 | \---------------------------------------------------------------/ Level 1: dagger 98 sword 100 parry 100 recall 100 anatomy 100 Level 2: polearm 100 Level 3: spear 100 Level 4: onslaught 100 Level 5: doublesheath 75 critical strike 93 Level 6: footwork 100 Level 8: hand to hand 75 blind fighting 100 Level 10: double grip 100 two handed 100 Level 11: disarm 78 Level 12: chop 93 Level 13: fast healing 93 haggle 80 Level 14: meditation 100 Level 15: acupuncture 81 Level 16: trip 81 lore 1 Level 17: charge 100 Level 18: counter 85 Level 20: dodge 100 Level 22: bladework 100 powerstrike 100 Level 24: balance 87 Level 25: bladerush 87 Level 27: vigil 75 Level 28: twin counter 97 Level 29: predict 100 Level 30: dual parry 100 Level 32: battle stance 100 Level 33: flying expert 100 Level 39: backpin 82 Level 41: snakespeed 75 Level 42: deathstrike 81 Level 43: giant expert 100 Level 44: pinwheel 81 Level 46: avatar of steel 86 Level 48: spellkiller 75 Level 50: flying master 100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evangelion Posted February 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2007 Thanks to Ecasio, Elanthen, Valkera, Nemlie, Dagizon, and Stocaryn for making it fun. Props to all the willing Hopefuls who are sitting at 50 waiting to get into Knight. You've got more patience than I do. (Note: This is not intended to be ragging on Raargant. I just don't have enough time to sit around at 50 and T in a clan for a week and a half). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister E Posted February 10, 2007 Report Share Posted February 10, 2007 dude, 81 hours? Though I cant say anything, I deleted Durlar at T after waiting only a lil longer than you, but I had twice the hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evangelion Posted February 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2007 Every time there was a world shift, I logged off and logged back on. I wanted the hours to be as realistic as they could, and unaltered by the bug that causes world shift to add to your played time. For anyone that's interested, I pinned in 18 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister E Posted February 10, 2007 Report Share Posted February 10, 2007 World shifts add to your hours??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evangelion Posted February 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2007 It doubles the time you've been playing. So if you've been online for three hours, and there's a world shift, you end up with an extra three hours on your score sheet. Good for qrace/qclass applicants, bad for people who like to actually know how much time they've spent doing what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyzarius Posted February 10, 2007 Report Share Posted February 10, 2007 heh, so you in the "farming chars for deletion" cartel or something? Seems an awful waste for all that training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Questioner Posted February 10, 2007 Report Share Posted February 10, 2007 Gimledoc seemed like a younger Raargant to me. Always going into battle headfirst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nekky Posted February 11, 2007 Report Share Posted February 11, 2007 You were at (T) for a week and a half? Is that a long time to wait at (T)? I was there for at least two months of being very active before I got caballed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celerity Posted February 11, 2007 Report Share Posted February 11, 2007 talk about a waste of time...no props for quickly deleted, nearly meaningless chars stay around longer next time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deykari Posted February 11, 2007 Report Share Posted February 11, 2007 I agree with both Nekky and Celerity... urgh. People should stop assuming that Cabals are their right to get into in any set length of time. Dey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRins Posted February 11, 2007 Report Share Posted February 11, 2007 I know his pain though. In just about any other game in the entire world, when you fulfill requirements you get what you are after. Here, you get the privledge of sitting around for a couple weeks. I understand that that is how things are done, but when you want to play something you want it then. Two weeks later you most likely have a completely different idea. I'm of the opinion that an IMM should just pull an applicant up and have an interview. This would force the applicant to be on the ball. I'm not saying the first IMM to see the app, but I can tell what a person's RP or lack thereof in an hour of being grouped together. Well, I can't say that because some people just don't RP when they hunt, but I think that is pretty trashy anyway. Further, I think anyone posting a Q-stuff app should have to make a post in the prayer forum too. I know that there are probably like 10-15 people who get 65% of all Q-stuff and it really sucks. If you had a vamp before, you shouldn't just get another one because you know what you have to do to get it. I would suggest cutting the chance of them getting it again down or make them wait a certain and probably lengthy amount of time after their previous Vamp, avatar, whatever got deleted or con-died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imoutgoodbye Posted February 11, 2007 Report Share Posted February 11, 2007 You know, back in my day, cabal hopefuls had it rough. Especially the Warmaster variety. We didn't know what a vial looked like. We didn't have those fancy city gates or those nice mounts. WE DIDN'T EVEN HAVE LEGS!!!! We had to crawl from Val Miran to Miruvhor, uphill both ways through walls and seven feet of raining Shades! Okay, there's my old time rant, a short, symbolic version. Oh, and the Reverend says patience is a virtue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRins Posted February 11, 2007 Report Share Posted February 11, 2007 I agree patience is great and all, but there is a difference between patience and having to essentially shelf a char for a couple weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deykari Posted February 11, 2007 Report Share Posted February 11, 2007 It is not your "right" to be in a Cabal. If you get in after a few days due to whatever reason, great. If you have to wait a month, fine. Just because you're not in a Cabal/not yet in a Cabal doesn't mean the game stands still and you can't do anything just because you aren't in a Cabal. Dey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRins Posted February 11, 2007 Report Share Posted February 11, 2007 well for cabals that is true, but q-stuff can put the serious e-brake on your char. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imoutgoodbye Posted February 11, 2007 Report Share Posted February 11, 2007 well for cabals that is true' date=' but q-stuff can put the serious e-brake on your char.[/quote'] That's only a perception. As long as you hold off on your training and do it when you're "stuck" plus continue to roleplay and interact with others (yes, this means hunting with others even when you turn the experience off or if you're sitting at 50 continuing to uphold your standards). No one has to "shelf" their character. Some people just choose to. And that's deadly to your chances as a q-stuff thingamabobber. If you're working on something questy, that should always be your main focus. Every minute of your day is a quest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deykari Posted February 11, 2007 Report Share Posted February 11, 2007 well for cabals that is true' date=' but q-stuff can put the serious e-brake on your char.[/quote'] That really has nothing to do with what was being talked about, as the problem was him waiting just a couple of weeks to get Caballed and not getting Caballed. For qraces/qclasses? Waiting is the price you pay for being granted a Qrace/Qclass. Without a waiting process inwhich the Imms can look over you to see if you're worthy of it as a player, there wouldn't be an effective way to judge if said player should be given the gift of a qrace/qclass. The 2-week rule is usually a maximum that you should resend your app after if you haven't heard anything but most people do unless the Immortal in question was away or if the App hasn't recieved. If someone displays what the Immortal is looking for consistently they may most certaintly get accepted sooner. When you say that it appears to be the same people over and over who know the trick to getting Qraces/Qclasses - have you not stopped to consider that the trick to getting a Qrace/Qclass is consistent RP, and PK (to whatever degree that particular qrace/qclass wants the PK aspect)? A person who has had a Vamp before is certaintly in no better position to getting a Vamp next time apart from when it comes to the involved quest and the fact that they know their previous char's RP was what the Imm was looking for. Dey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRins Posted February 11, 2007 Report Share Posted February 11, 2007 umm...that entire last paragraph completely illustrates what I was saying. PK aside, because we all know that each and every player is on a different level skillwise and that cannot be changed, knowing what is required (yeah the quest too) makes it about 100% better chance of you getting the q-stuff. I've seen some of the absolute lamest RP out of qraces before. I assume that they got what they wanted because they fronted some decent RP to the IMMs then decided screw RP now that they have their powers. Fact of the matter is, there is an elite group of players in this game (as in every game) but here they get their already superior skills supplimented by knowing every quest (can't change experience in the game, I don't mind it too much though), every IMM and what they want, and exactly how to completely deck out their char regardless of rank. The only person who can possibly even hate on my idea about putting "cooldown" timers on q-stuff is the exact people who only roll power builds or q-stuff. Regarding the 2 week thing. I could filter through all the worthy and unworthy applicants by myself in that time. Seems to me we have a lack of numbers in the PIP (people in power) positions. Maybe we need some more IMMs who strictly deal with applicants. Watch them for a bit, if they seem to use their RP consistantly (while party hunting, while sitting around in their guildhall waiting for something to do, while randomly chilling somewhere, while training ) give them an interview with an IMM or perhaps a small group of them so certain "favorites" don't suck up to a certain IMM to get their way. I mean christ! All people want is to have a reasonable wait time on whatever they apply for. I don't care if you hold off training anything until you hit whatever ceiling is on what you are applying for, you are gonna get damn sick of training. I absolutely hated Serokir when I put in like 5 hours a day hoping for the big guys upstairs to give me my shot. I got to the point where I wanted to rip the S key off my keyboard because it was just that frustrating. I have gotten numerous jobs that required multiple interviews with different people faster than that mess. I'm fairly certain that if I sunk all those hours into my online courses I could have completely finished them in the first couple weeks of the semester, and those courses are microbiology and trigonometry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deykari Posted February 11, 2007 Report Share Posted February 11, 2007 Here's an example. I have had a Demon. Does that mean that the next time I roll for a Demon, I'm going to get it, or have a better chance at getting on, just because my previous Demon RP got accepted? Only very slightly, if anything at all. So quest aside, which comes AFTER being accepted, I do not have a better chance at getting accepted than you at getting a Demon just because I've had a Demon before. The only thing I've learnt was that my last Demon's RP was acceptable. Now, over time, you become 'refined' as a player. You will learn what the Imms are looking for, not in the sense of the specifics of prerequisites for an app, but things that you just do naturally as a refined and experienced player, for example, having a very well thought out RP background for your character. Arguing that people who have learnt this through time through applying for various things is wrong is like saying that newbies should be given a book with the locations of various pieces of Uber EQ because it's unfair that other players have learnt over time where they are. I'm not going to deny there's a "trick" to geting Qraces/Qclasses but I don't agree with anyone who argues that a certain group of "elites" are the only people who get these things or know the trick to getting them, because the "trick" to getting a Qrace/Qclass is just common sense. And to add into your last point, Qraces and Qclasses are watched carefully moreso than other players and have higher standard to work too, with harsher penalties if they breach these RP standards. Dey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRins Posted February 11, 2007 Report Share Posted February 11, 2007 I'm not saying that experienced players should be penalized because they know what's up. (although I wish anyone in game was willing to teach people the tough stuff.) All I want is things done with any version of efficiency. AHHH! Everytime I even consider talking about Q-stuff I just want to delete SimpleMU. Millions of people every day have applications for important things processed. Here every day a millionth of an application for unimportant stuff is processed for people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pali Posted February 11, 2007 Report Share Posted February 11, 2007 You make it sound like IMMs want the same RP from everybody going for that qrace, but trust me, they don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister E Posted February 11, 2007 Report Share Posted February 11, 2007 because we all know that each and every player is on a different level skillwise and that cannot be changed You have a defeatist attitude. Suck it up and improve, if you will allow yourself too that is. Noone is out to get you, the IMMs are not conspiring to keep you in the dark. FL is just like a microcosm of life. If you want something you have to work for it, especially if it is something special. If you want a degree you have to go earn it, noone is going to give it you you just because many people before you have earned one. As long as you affirm the attitude that you cant get better and that you cant learn where uber eq etc... then you wont. Time to change your way of thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRins Posted February 11, 2007 Report Share Posted February 11, 2007 ummm...way to attack a statement without understanding it. That will really impress the board. Everyone is on a different skill level because some people type faster, some people read faster, some people are blind. Then there is the knowledge or a better understanding of what is around them factor. Even if you learn every single piece of EQ in the game, the other guy who does too is on a different skill level. Plain and simple. Obviously there is a learning curve, just like every other thing in the entire world with the exception of breathing and smooth muscle movement... I never once said I won't or can't get better. IMO I get a little better each day. And not just at FL. Read, comprehend, then reply. Not read, call me dumb, then consider comprehending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Questioner Posted February 11, 2007 Report Share Posted February 11, 2007 Well, the rp should go along a basis according to the qrace or qclass. Other than that, your character's history or motives can be crazy or ordinary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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