Ivanhoe Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 If I am a ninja does that mean that if I am invisible and hiding am I able to be detected by someone who has detect invisibility up? And what does hide necessarily do anyways it seems cool, however I don't understand the concept of it does it mean that if someone comes into the same room I am in they won't be able to know I am there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pali Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Detect invis lets you see the invisible, detect hidden lets you see the hidden. If someone lacks either of those and you're both invis and hidden, they cannot see you. A ninja who's both can only be seen by someone who has both detect invis and detect hidden, so outside of quest races/classes you only need to worry about other ninjas (who have both detects innately) or thieves (who can detect hidden and, like anybody, can get detect invis potions/pills). EDIT: To be a bit more clear... if you are hidden, only the classes with the detect hidden skill can see you. If you are invisible, only those with detect invis can see you. If you are both, only those with both can see you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivanhoe Posted February 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Hey thank you That was kind of puzzling I have never played a ninja before and just was wondering. Ha so that means I'd be able to get the jump on someone easier than I thought. Thanks again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivanhoe Posted February 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 So there is no such thing as a detect hidden sort of pill? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pali Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 That was kind of puzzling I have never played a ninja before and just was wondering. Ha so that means I'd be able to get the jump on someone easier than I thought. Thanks again! Be careful though. Hide does not always work (even at 100%), and unlike the invisibility spell, you don't have any way to know that you're not hidden. Also, certain qclasses/races may be able to see you regardless, so don't make assumptions. EDIT: And no, there isn't a detect hidden pill that I've ever heard of. Detect hidden is a skill, not a spell like detect invis. There are ways to reveal people who are hiding even if you can't see them, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Questioner Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Well there are ways around finding particular ninjas. For example ferals can sense people or hidden things. Also, by eating or moving around (not sneaking) you will stop hiding. This however, won't stop the invisibility spell. The only way you can become visible again is if you are attacked, attack someone, type visible. Some spells can negate any hiding or invisibility skills. Explore in-game to understand the finer aspects of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deykari Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 you can run but yoiu acant hide deyass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivanhoe Posted February 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Ok it's a learning experience nonetheless thanks again guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lemming Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Be careful though. Hide does not always work (even at 100%)' date=' and unlike the invisibility spell, you don't have any way to know that you're not hidden. Also, certain qclasses/races may be able to see you regardless, so don't make assumptions.[/quote'] Not entirely true, there are ways to tell if you are hidden with 100% certanty. However they involve certian mobs and I dont know if I am allowed to talk about progs. However there are ways to tell if you are hidden, but you still need to be careful and as previously dont ever assume you are hidden especially when you absolutly need to be hidden to take someone out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiere Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 On the other hand, I can probably count on one hand the number of times I've tried to hide without being successful when it was mastered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pali Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Not entirely true' date=' there are ways to tell if you are hidden with 100% certanty. However they involve certian mobs and I dont know if I am allowed to talk about progs. However there are ways to tell if you are hidden, but you still need to be careful and as previously dont ever assume you are hidden especially when you absolutly need to be hidden to take someone out.[/quote'] I'm well aware of those, but they're fairly irrelevant when a newb is asking questions about the game. Give them the rules, let them find the exceptions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chayesh Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 In addition to some quest race/class abilities, some cabals might have spells/skills that would enable them to see you as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister E Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 I've never seen Chayesh the almost reveleaing of taboo stuff *sets up camp on this thread in the event of some classified info leak* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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