BigPapa Posted February 21, 2007 Report Share Posted February 21, 2007 Do they stack? You get two weapon expertises and one mastery. If you take polearm for all three, do you get a wicked prof? In your opinion is it better to do A A A, A B A or A B C? Which did you go with:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pali Posted February 21, 2007 Report Share Posted February 21, 2007 Expertise and mastery can stack, but both expertises cannot be on the same weapon. So you can put one expertise and your mastery in polearm and get a pretty wicked prof, but the other expertise has to go elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigPapa Posted February 21, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2007 Polearm? Staff? I see tons of tid bits about how staff warriors are the cookie cutter way to go? Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Questioner Posted February 21, 2007 Report Share Posted February 21, 2007 Because an ogre or giant warrior wielding a no disarm staff will pwn most newbies and junior players. Staffs are the most defensive weapon to use, plus that pugil skill warriors get deals out massive damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pali Posted February 21, 2007 Report Share Posted February 21, 2007 Because an ogre or giant warrior wielding a no disarm staff will pwn most newbies and junior players. Staffs are the most defensive weapon to use' date=' plus that pugil skill warriors get deals out massive damage.[/quote'] Exactly. An ogre warrior with staff expert/mastery can in mithril toss 4-5 massacres/mangles a round with a decent staff. Not even the best ones in the game, just a decent one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Implementor Anume Posted February 21, 2007 Implementor Report Share Posted February 21, 2007 I suggest think on which warrior LORE you wish first. Then split your expertises/mastery so you get that lore and have higher than 100 % prof on both a twohanded weapon and something you can dual wield. While staff is the ideal choice against tough mobs a polearm will be better against classes that know staff but not polearm and dual wielding will be better against anything that doesn't do overmuch melee damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pali Posted February 21, 2007 Report Share Posted February 21, 2007 Also, remember that the main strength of warriors is that they can use EVERY weapon type. They're not like blademasters who focus on just a couple weapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chayesh Posted February 21, 2007 Report Share Posted February 21, 2007 Polearm ftw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malanith Posted February 21, 2007 Report Share Posted February 21, 2007 They are only called "cookie-cutter" because long time ago that was all that people made. Ogre + Staff Mastery. They are many other "good combos" that have yet to be explored. Pick something you'd like, and give it a go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Questioner Posted February 21, 2007 Report Share Posted February 21, 2007 Whip mastery is pretty cool too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deykari Posted February 21, 2007 Report Share Posted February 21, 2007 So is flail mastery. Serious invoker killer, both the weapon and the lore. Dey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pali Posted February 21, 2007 Report Share Posted February 21, 2007 So is flail mastery. Serious invoker killer, both the weapon and the lore. Dey Very true. If you love fire warriors but can't handle those pesky invokers, go this route, and with a bit of experimenting and the right flails you'll pound them silly. It'll still hurt like hell, but it's the way to kill them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deykari Posted February 21, 2007 Report Share Posted February 21, 2007 I did exactly that. But, with me being me...it didn't work out. Dey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigPapa Posted February 21, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2007 They all sound like a lot of fun, especially the flail lore ( does it go off often ) I know that doublesheath has huge benefits as well and would be hard to not get. Until I figure out how to get some better than average equipment, I think I am going to replace Dey as the worst Pker regardless of what I chose, so your right, most fun it is! Woot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deykari Posted February 21, 2007 Report Share Posted February 21, 2007 For a Warrior, best way to get used to EQ if you haven't had an ID class before hand to find out about it, just try and get yourself involved in as many EQ runs as possible. If people are unwilling to let you join (as sometimes people like the bare minimum so they don't have to split the loot as many ways), offer to go with them anyway just to help (if your RP permits) and that way you can at least find out where EQ is and how hard it is to gain - not many people will turn down a helping hand, and they might give you a few things anyway. And remember your Brambus quest too.... We can't talk about specifics of lores unfortunately, but if you like the idea of flail lore, you won't be disappointed if you master it. Just pick what sounds appealing to you. All have their own benefits that will come into their own in different situations against different classes. Shield bash in particular sounds very interesting IMO. Dey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiere Posted February 21, 2007 Report Share Posted February 21, 2007 Don't expect the flail lore to be some sort of all powerful mage killer though, because it isn't. I personally think the whip lore would be cooler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malanith Posted February 21, 2007 Report Share Posted February 21, 2007 I think I am going to replace Dey as the worst Pker Not gonna happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Birdman Posted February 22, 2007 Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 I really liked the flail lore. Warrior lores are dangerous, though, because the temptation is always there to use your lore. And if you do that, you lose out on the huge advantage a warrior has in being able to learn all weapon types. I know that when I had a character with mantis maul, I used a flail more often than a sane person should have. I couldn't help it--the yell when I initiated combat with it made me feel all warm inside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deykari Posted February 22, 2007 Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 Yeah, first time I saw the yell, I thought, "What the hell?" Dey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudder Posted February 22, 2007 Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 Whats the yell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Questioner Posted February 22, 2007 Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 That's like asking for Chayesh's picture. It's an enigma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tassinvegeta Posted February 24, 2007 Report Share Posted February 24, 2007 I kinda lost faith in picking lores I had no idea about after the sword lore. Maybe I did something wrong, who knows, it just didn't seem useful at all. All that training and ranking was for nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Birdman Posted February 24, 2007 Report Share Posted February 24, 2007 I've tried all of them over the years, and feign is the only one I've considered a poor choice. Maybe the real advantage was that there are quite a few decent swords and daggers out there, or maybe I was just missing something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tassinvegeta Posted February 24, 2007 Report Share Posted February 24, 2007 Great, leave it to me to pick the only one that sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Birdman Posted February 24, 2007 Report Share Posted February 24, 2007 Wow, someone actually thinks that because I couldn't see a good use for a skill that it must suck There might be more to that skill than I ever figured out. I actually didn't spend all that much time trying to figure it out. The biggest drawback I saw with it was that so many classes know how to use swords (or daggers, if it still applies to both weapons). And it's already been stated that using a weapon your opponent can't learn is a tremendous edge for warriors. So in most fights I didn't even bother using a sword. My impression of warrior lore is that it was added to give warriors a bit of flavor; it wasn't meant to be a make or break skill for a character. And I've found that to be true. I had fun with my sword warrior, and he was fairly successful, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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